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Apple Should Be in 'No Rush' on iPad 3 as RIM's PlayBook Falters
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Apple is on their own time schedule. They are continuing to evolve and innovate these product spaces in a pre-defined time frame, not based upon customer competition.
By doing so it puts the gap between Apple and it's competitors at a wide span.
Apple is on their own time schedule. They are continuing to evolve and innovate these product spaces in a pre-defined time frame, not based upon customer competition.
By doing so it puts the gap between Apple and it's competitors at a wide span.
The moment the competition can be dismissed, Apple eases up.
And the followers claim competition is bad?
I bet Apple goes into the cruise / long term development mode with the iPad 3 and everyone makes excuses for them.
Hey! It's not about specs right!
And the followers claim competition is bad?
I bet Apple goes into the cruise / long term development mode with the iPad 3 and everyone makes excuses for them.
Hey! It's not about specs right!
The moment the competition can be dismissed, Apple eases up.
And the followers claim competition is bad?
I bet Apple goes into the cruise / long term development mode with the iPad 3 and everyone makes excuses for them.
Hey! It's not about specs right!
Apple will never stand still, Steve as much as anything else is a gadget fan, he creates gadgets from a fans perspective as he is a fan himself so he will never let Apple stagnate, even if he doesn't recover from his illness his legacy and the people he employed will mean Apple will continue Steve's work and Steve's vision
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lol you married early if you are still a high school / college kid
This is hilarious. Apple WILL actually keep improving if there is no compititon.
What sort of expensive stuffs do you guys smoke? It's like saying Hitler was a life saver.
You guys live a apple-bubble that nobody can ever burst.
I wonder if someone would actually leave your wife to spend a night with an Apple employee. Since he is an Apple employee, he definitely won't touch the lady. There is no motivation of lust, just like there is no motivation for Apple to just milk money from us if there is no compitition.
just great!!!
What sort of expensive stuffs do you guys smoke? It's like saying Hitler was a life saver.
You guys live a apple-bubble that nobody can ever burst.
I wonder if someone would actually leave your wife to spend a night with an Apple employee. Since he is an Apple employee, he definitely won't touch the lady. There is no motivation of lust, just like there is no motivation for Apple to just milk money from us if there is no compitition.
just great!!!
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Problem is by the time a real hardware device combines with metro the iPad 4 will be just around the corner and iOS 7 several months away.
The problem is Microsoft has to rely on someone else to hit a homerun on the hardware without just copying the ipad
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Problem is by the time a real hardware device combines with metro the iPad 4 will be just around the corner and iOS 7 several months away.
The problem is Microsoft has to rely on someone else to hit a homerun on the hardware without just copying the ipad
Microsoft will provide more stiff competition with windows 8 because of the large windows user base.
Don't underestimate them....they're hungrier than Apple at the moment and there's a humility about the development team that is lacking at Apple currently.
Plus, some of us would like a file system, normal interaction with peripherals like USB sticks and to be able to run our desktop apps on a tablet if we want to. Microsoft have emphasised that it's the same OS on the tablet as it is on the desktop, which is an interesting proposition.
Time will tell if it works out or not but I like the idea of having more ownership and control over what's going on under the bonnet. Different user accounts as well is definitely appealing. These things really bug me about my iPad.
Apple needs competition to keep it humble and focused on "what we want", rather than dominance and dictating to us what we're "allowed to have".
Don't underestimate them....they're hungrier than Apple at the moment and there's a humility about the development team that is lacking at Apple currently.
Plus, some of us would like a file system, normal interaction with peripherals like USB sticks and to be able to run our desktop apps on a tablet if we want to. Microsoft have emphasised that it's the same OS on the tablet as it is on the desktop, which is an interesting proposition.
Time will tell if it works out or not but I like the idea of having more ownership and control over what's going on under the bonnet. Different user accounts as well is definitely appealing. These things really bug me about my iPad.
Apple needs competition to keep it humble and focused on "what we want", rather than dominance and dictating to us what we're "allowed to have".
You should also realize that sometimes Apple does what it does because of what it knows about hardware limitations.
It may seem that Apple is "dictating" what it wants to us but in reality, they are giving us 10-hour battery life, slim design, and fanless cool hardware in return for limited software functionality.
Sure, they could have put multitasking, desktop interfaces in a tablet but it may result in machine that requires a fan and has 2 hours of battery life...not unlike the Samsung tablet that's running Windows 8 right now.
Absolutely. Any good business wants to look forward, not see what's in the rear view mirror.
Being sensible isn't tolerated very well on this forum.
Zing!! Ouch! And it went right over their heads.
There you go, being rational.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to step away from the Apple world and try reality for a while. You know, put down the toys and interact with other people. In person. Not online. See how the sex appeal works then.
ROFLMAO!! Maybe MacRumors will have a survey with who gets the most, Apple users or Windows users.
Uh, very illogical. When you're winning the race, you should let up and let the other guys get back into it? Sounds like a great way to go from 1st to losing.
Especially since the market dominance itself helps influence developers to support the platform, gives you economies of scale, and reassures users that you won't abandon them too quickly... which all helps you keep your market dominance. It's easier to stay on top then get on top. It would be very costly to let that vicious circle spin down.
Now, don't get me wrong. If Apple has something really great on tap, but it will take a long time to implement, this is a great time to do it. But in no way should they be taking it easy.
Not quite the same. A mobile phone is also linked with a carrier, and the associated contract is actually the largest part of the purchase. Carriers can afford to subsidize the entire cost of Android phones, and because the vast majority of Android phones are less expensive, carriers can promote them as "free". Also, the iPhone has not traditionally been on most carriers, and even now is on a minority of carriers worldwide.
Interestingly, in Canada, a country in which almost all of the national carriers have the iPhone, the market penetration of the iPhone is much higher, and that of Android is much lower, compared to the U.S.
Nonetheless, if Apple sits on its laurels, it's only a matter of time until it is no longer the dominant player in the tablet market, because the market does not stand still, and the rate of progress in ever increasing.
I was not talking about ME, I am in a relationship it is a steady one and has been for 3 years, my obsession with all things Apple and my partner co exist quite nicely
Ipad 2 is the Tablet done right.
Competition tried bigger 16:9 screens. Fail. Portrait orientation feels akwards.
Competion added Adobe Flash. Fail. It too slow on mobile platforms and is full of security holes
Competiton tried smaller 7" screens to improve portability. Fail. The device is still too big to fit your pocket and too small for web browsing experience expected from a tablet.
Competition tried lowering their price. Fail. While the fire sale of HP Touch Pads provided life support into a failed product. It still will not save the day for Apple can make lines that snake for blocks and people camp for nights for devices that cost 500 to 700 dollars.
Competition tried bigger 16:9 screens. Fail. Portrait orientation feels akwards.
Competion added Adobe Flash. Fail. It too slow on mobile platforms and is full of security holes
Competiton tried smaller 7" screens to improve portability. Fail. The device is still too big to fit your pocket and too small for web browsing experience expected from a tablet.
Competition tried lowering their price. Fail. While the fire sale of HP Touch Pads provided life support into a failed product. It still will not save the day for Apple can make lines that snake for blocks and people camp for nights for devices that cost 500 to 700 dollars.
Again, falsehoods about Android from the pre-programmed hologram avatar.
The Samsung Galaxy S II, while not being available on any carrier in the US at all (that's 2 less than even Apple), no carriers in Canada, and not being subsidized for "free" but actually for the same cost as an iPhone 4, sold 5 million units in 85 days :
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...5_million_galaxy_s2_shipments_in_85_days.html
Meanwhile, the iPhone 4 is also subsidized for "free" on all UK carriers and has been so for quite some time (this is not something new). And iPhone is available on quite a majority of carriers worldwide, don't take the US situation as some kind of generalization. The US was one of the only and last bastions of iPhone "exclusivity" there was. All major carriers in Canada have had the iPhone since at least November 2009 and we've been one of the last countries with exclusivity.
For someone that pretends having owned an Android phone, you sure don't seem to know anything about them.
Talk about falsehoods. I clearly was talking about worldwide carriers, not Canadian and U.S. carriers. Apple has yet to offer the iPhone on many large carriers in Asia. Also, you conveniently ignored where I stated that in Canada, where most carriers have the iPhone, iPhone penetration is much higher and Android much lower. And yes, I own two Android phones. Nothing against them, they serve their purpose.
And do you honestly think that in those 85 days, only 10 million Android units were sold? What's the big deal about selling 5 million Galaxy S IIs (which looks like a great phone, BTW)? They're still a small part of the total Android market. I'm sure that if you did a study of the average selling price of an iPhone and the average selling price of an Android phone, the iPhone selling price would still be significantly higher (though I don't have a link to support this, it is certainly consistent with Apple being the most profitable smartphone retailer).
What do you folks think about the new Asus slider?
I have seen it, and my first impression is that it provides a rather credible alternative to those desiring an ipad 2 + keyboard combination. It's definitely thicker and heavier than an ipad alone, but actually thinner than ipad + board.
Basically, I agree that Apple should not rest on their laurels.
I have seen it, and my first impression is that it provides a rather credible alternative to those desiring an ipad 2 + keyboard combination. It's definitely thicker and heavier than an ipad alone, but actually thinner than ipad + board.
Basically, I agree that Apple should not rest on their laurels.
While the Galaxy S2 sold very well - and it's a very nice phone so deservedly so - the lack of US carrier doesn't mean anything. Almost half of that 5 million figure was sold in one market: the domestic Korean market where Samsung is recognized as "the best premium product" because... well because it's Samsung, the familiar superior brand in their mind, where as Apple is often a mysterious one with suspect warranty policy. (Samsung's warranty service in Korea is great)
Apple sells to young buyers there, but young buyers tend to be more sensitive about the latest-ness so that's one strike against the aging iPhone 4, and older Korean buyers buy Galaxy S2 because it's recommended by the phone sellers as "the best phone, it's the latest one from Samsung."
While I agree that Apple should continue to keep pushing themselves to the limit, the iPad is a little different than the iPhone. One of the main reasons that Android has had so much success is because carriers can subsidize the price of Android phones. A $50, $30, or FREE phone is a lot easier to buy than a $200 or $300 iPhone. Most people are willing to get locked into a 2 year contract for a phone. I don't know how many average customers are willing to get locked into a 2 year agreement for a tablet yet. Until this happens, non-Apple tablets will still be the price of or more than an iPad. Therefore most customers (who don't live on tech and rumor sites) will still buy iPads for the foreseeable future.
Please don't do it. With the current state of my life, I'll ruin the Apple curve.
Regardless of what people say about "not being in a rush"... Apple sticks to their schedule and updates as they wish. They also kill products even when they're doing great -- the famous story of the iPod Mini that was selling incredibly and Apple killed it to bring out something new. I'm not saying iPad3 is coming out this year,... I'm just saying these people don't know jack about the plans of Apple.
Look at the newest rumor -- Apple is bringing out the iPhone 5 AND updating iPhone 4 to a "4S" model... why would they do this? They certainly don't need to. They could just do iPhone 5 at $199 and shift the iPhone 4 done to $99. But, if the rumors hold true... it proves that Apple always gives more than expected.
Look at the newest rumor -- Apple is bringing out the iPhone 5 AND updating iPhone 4 to a "4S" model... why would they do this? They certainly don't need to. They could just do iPhone 5 at $199 and shift the iPhone 4 done to $99. But, if the rumors hold true... it proves that Apple always gives more than expected.
Oh goodness help us if RIMs Playbook dictates the iPad release schedule... Please, that thing isn't even on the map for Tablet seekers
Why? It is unlikely anyone will make a real competitor before the iPad 3 is released on a normal release schedule. This gives time for Apple to refine the new features, possibly even put in some items that would have been left out to meet an accelerated schedule. There is nothing to one-up at the moment, nothing other than the iPad 2. The best time to do that will be in the Spring.
Everyone who has any capability has already tried and failed fairly miserably. Samsung may be doing ok, but I suspect peoples thoughts about their sell through are very exaggerated. There has been no news about a second manufacturing run on any model of the Galaxy Tab. Of course they have not kept any on the market very long either.
No iPad or iPhone release has ever come out on any kind of accelerated schedule. Not being in a rush is just how Apple rolls. The fact that there is no competition is just gravy. Not rushing on the iPhone 4 has not hurt anything, other than Fandrois egos as every new model continues to get crushed.