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Apple Silicon M1 MacBook Pro Earns 7508 Multi-Core Score in Cinebench Benchmark

Fomalhaut said:
the reality is that 20 hours of video playback may only equate to 8-10 hours of more intensive work, such as code builds, editing large documents, copying / syncing lots of data or video encoding. I would typically only get 5-6 hours on my MBP16, so getting across the line to a full working day with 10+ hours would be a big win
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Why would you do 8-10 hours of intensive work on battery in the first place?
 
pretty much in line with what I predicted when Apple announced their transition to arm based cpus -- 20-50% better performance and maybe 20-30% less power usage because of the advanced tech node at tsmc.

it looks lke cinebench confirms my speculation. the m1 is still an impressive chip, but it doesn't massively outperform the amd 4800u, which is a 15w zen2 based 8-core cpu manufactured on tsmc's 7nm node. if you switched the zen2 cores with zen3 and moved the manufacturing to tsmc's 5 nm process, you'd probably get it 10-15% faster than the m1 in single-threaded workloads. :)

good luck to apple, i guess. looking forward to their future endeavours in this space.
 
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matt_k said:
Yes, when you compare it with what intel has to offer, it's great. But Intel is currently far, far behind AMD in multicore performance on 15-25W laptop chips. So if just being better than intel was the goal, Apple could have gone with R7 4800U, which would mean lot less hassle with porting software and giving up Windows compatibility. For some people this transition is going to be very painful, so I'm really hoping for something that doesn't just beat Intel (that is a dead horse already), but also AMD, with a significant margin to make it worth the hassle.
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The M1 is a 10 watt chip and the 4800U is a 15 watt chip according to the internet, a 50% increase in power so it should be faster. For better or worse Apple doesn't compete with #rest since they've never offered an AMD option M1 will be compared to what Apple offered prior to the change. If Windows compatibility is a priority it's time to start pondering the exit plan I have a hard time believing that MS is going to put a lot of time, effort, or money into doing a decent port for Windows but maybe there's some virtualization magic out there.
 
If this M1 MacBook Pro have even just equal performance to my 2018 15” I may get one, even just for the battery life and to get rid of the butterfly keyboard
 
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NT1440 said:
Cool, how many watts does your rig run off of? And why are you comparing the entry level to your machine anyway? Can you link us to your entry level computer with 15 hour battery life?
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Does it matter? My 5960X benched 10k multicore in R23, which in my opinion makes both the M1 and 10900K look bad regardless of wattage and laptop availability considering this is a 7 year old CPU baked at 22nm process and 7 or 8 generations ago. I mean, Apple, you cannot make a chip that beats what used to be the performance king on desktop almost a decade ago? And Intel, you cannot make a chip that beats your flagship CPU from almost a decade ago by more than roughly 40%?

Let's keep things in perspective. Apple did good with their first chip. Not great, but it's most definitely not an embarrassment. But let's not pretend that until like a year or so ago there was any meaningful competition or innovation going on in CPU land. Now there is, as Intel is getting their a..es handed to them by AMD's 3rd generation Zen architecture. And AMD is not done yet, but Intel also will not remain stagnant. Development will accelerate and we will have to see if Apple can keep up if we really get another CPU war.
 
matt_k said:
There is nothing preventing macOS running on AMD if Apple decided to go with it. There are plenty of AMD hackintoshes around.
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Right, I am aware. People may always build hackintoshes. But for the rest of us having a MacBook air that
is faster than an iMac pro would make building a hackintosh unnecessary.
AND they run iPhone software which the AMD doesn't do.
Who knows AMD may be the future option for the high end MACs or a cluster of Mac silicon.
Great time to be a Mac addict. :)
 
Coconut Bean said:
True. Apple's offering on performance is little better than last gen Intel, with efficiency significantly better. But it's not 3x or whatever. Maybe in some edge cases.

People should be happy with this update. Let's hope many will buy and weed out all the bugs so that I can buy a better product next year.
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Sure but if you can buy a Mac book air that bests an iMac pro, that is a lot better dollar for dollar
and like you said next year should look good!
 
matt_k said:
It proves that 5800X is absolutely useless in a thin and light laptop. Which is something you couldn't tell by just looking at the geekbench score.


But raw performance is meaningless if you can't sustain it.


I wouldn't expect it to be significantly different. Looking at the 15% difference between pro and air, it doesn't seem to be using all the available headroom of the pro (IIRC the single fan 13" has no problem sustaining 20-25W). So this may be pretty much what M1 can do, and considering what it does in a passively cooled in Air, I'm actually quite impressed and hopeful for something like M1X with more cores.
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You simply can’t properly evaluate CPU performance if your test system is thermally constrained. The results will be negatively skewed.

Your numbers above confirm exactly what I’m saying, don’t they? If the M1 had only been benched on the Air platform, that would have understated the true capability of the M1.

And maybe the mini will show us that even more cooling is beneficial, and that the M1 is really a 9-10k Cinebench MC CPU 🤣
 
I like the performance, and it’s promising. However, none of this matters if I can’t run Linux and Windows on it. I understand I’m not Apples target audience.
 
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Robospungo said:
I thought this was going to be giant generational leap, and I guess for battery life, it is. But as for performance, it looks like this chip can be best described as “competitive with Intel mobile chips”.

That’s nice and all. But I’m not blown away like I was after Apple’s presentation and seeing the geekbench results. I’ve gone from “Apple just disrupted the entire industry” to “meh, I guess it’s a good first try.”
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What? This is like comparing an updated Kia Forte's engine performance to an Audi A7. If a Kia Forte could drag race an Audi A7 and win or tie, that would be impressive as hell. And that's essentially what this is. We're talking about the bottom of the barrel chip on par with i7 and i9 performance. If this were actually a high end chip being compared to a high end chip, I'd agree with you. It's not.
 
PickUrPoison said:
Your numbers above confirm exactly what I’m saying, don’t they? If the M1 had only been benched on the Air platform, that would have understated the true capability of the M1.

And maybe the mini will show us that even more cooling is beneficial, and that the M1 is really a 9-10k Cinebench MC CPU 🤣
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The true capability of CPU is meaningless if you don't have thermal capacity to sustain it. If you look at MacBook Air and Pro geekbench, you might expect that they're going to perform same, which definitely isn't the case. Maybe M1 is the 10k cinebench MC CPU if you increase voltage, overclock and cryo cool it. But that hardly means anything.
 
So for someone who uses this for school, (studying X-ray tech), don’t really use Linux or Windows, edits photos, uses mostly safari, check email, music, and uses my laptop mostly connected to a bigger display. Should I trade in my 16 in for the new MacBook Pro?
 
fel10 said:
So for someone who uses this for school, (studying X-ray tech), don’t really use Linux or Windows, edits photos, uses mostly safari, check email, music, and uses my laptop mostly connected to a bigger display. Should I trade in my 16 in for the new MacBook Pro?
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Is there anything about your existing Mac that you are not happy with?

In any case, I would at least wait for a few weeks to see if any serious compatibility issues pop up with the software you use. A switch to a completely different CPU is not a small thing.
 
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throttlemeister said:
Does it matter? My 5960X benched 10k multicore in R23, which in my opinion makes both the M1 and 10900K look bad regardless of wattage and laptop availability considering this is a 7 year old CPU baked at 22nm process and 7 or 8 generations ago. I mean, Apple, you cannot make a chip that beats what used to be the performance king on desktop almost a decade ago? And Intel, you cannot make a chip that beats your flagship CPU from almost a decade ago by more than roughly 40%?

Let's keep things in perspective. Apple did good with their first chip. Not great, but it's most definitely not an embarrassment. But let's not pretend that until like a year or so ago there was any meaningful competition or innovation going on in CPU land. Now there is, as Intel is getting their a..es handed to them by AMD's 3rd generation Zen architecture. And AMD is not done yet, but Intel also will not remain stagnant. Development will accelerate and we will have to see if Apple can keep up if we really get another CPU war.
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This sounds like an abusive boyfriend / girlfriend:

"I got an amazing new job, honey!"

"Yeah, but you could have done better if you weren't so slow and lazy. Try better."
"But I'm making more money than you!"
"Money is not everything. I know millionaires that could clean the floor with you. Try harder. You're a disappointment to me."
"My boss says she's really pleased with my performance."
"Your boss is clueless. I would have fired you by now."
 
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Can someone comment on these graphs? It seems that Intel 11th Gen is very comparable to M1 in Single Core?

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mikethebigo said:
Hahaha suck it my 16" MBP still has a tiny bit better prolonged multicore performance

please just let me have this so I don't buy a new Mac today
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You chose wisely: the last best Intel Mac to ride out the transition to the ARM 16". Well played, sir.
 
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Very interesting results for the 1st gen mobile CPUs.

Apple is definitely keep the performance low on this generation to be comparable with the competition ... they are sitting on performance for the next update so they market it as "2x as fast" without breaking a sweat.
 
Robospungo said:
Except the M1 is already better than any Intel mobile chip. AMD vs. Apple is the real competition for top spot.
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No its not....:eek:

Intel And AMD x86 Mobility CPUs Destroy Apple’s M1 In Cinebench R23 Benchmark Results

Apple recently made some marketing claims using a 5nm processor against a 4-year old architecture and we were waiting for benchmarks to appear that we can use to do some solid comparisons. Earlier today, the single-core and multi-core scores in the latest Cinebench R23 have leaked out and boy is it a different story than the one Apple used in its announcement. The Apple M1 is a very impressive chip - but the fastest in mobility CPUs it is not - not by a long shot.
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echodriver said:
Anandtech thinks the M1 on the Mac Mini is running around 26W at load (31W for the full system at the wall) so it's not quite the 10W TDP that people were hyping...
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There is still overhead of the PSU, fan, possibly other things. On the other hands, the MacBook Pro is pretty much silent under sustained load with not a whole lot of air moved around, which would likely mean it's pretty closed to the 15W envelope. However I'd be interested to know how the noise is under both CPU and GPU load.
 
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