Well, I think both Google and Apple have a place in the market. I don't really see how that can be bias, though.
Maybe the fact that you're biased make you believe that everybody is?
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Apple Sneaks Up on Motorola in Mobile Phone Sales, Android Surges Past iOS
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Well, I think both Google and Apple have a place in the market. I don't really see how that can be bias, though.
Maybe the fact that you're biased make you believe that everybody is?
Of course. I know it doesn't mean too much but there are a lot of posters on here who have said they only went for an Android device because they would not sign up to a contract with AT&T.
The article you linked to just seems to repeat what is often posted on this and many other forums - i.e. the complaint that we should include other devices that run Android or iOS as well as just phones. Personally, I think that's wrong. There are certain device classes - e.g. phones, tablets, phone+tablets. If i buy a smartphone I don't compare it to devices that aren't able to operate as phones (such as an iPad, Touch etc). What apps can be run may be important in the decision making process, but not being able to make a phone call would be a severe limitation of a phone
. So, these reports that show marketshare of smartphones are interesting to me. Maybe someone can do a report showing iOS vs Android vs Symbian marketshare across all devices, but I personally wouldn't find it very interesting as the device range is just too broad.
Alas, the strawman argument is the easy way out.
I guess it's also easy way out to ignore the possible impacts of http://jailbreakme.com, eh? It's also easy to restate opinions derived from biases to make them feel like facts without also stating why. What exactly then is your argument - we should accept your "gut feel" or "rational thinking" without reasoning that iPhone will be the least targeted mobile platform even when it has well surpassed the penetration levels that fall under the "obscure" category and even when people have demonstrated that just visiting a website can install Apps on your phone without the Apple App Store coming in between?
Say, where is my favorite little company Palm in all of this?!
HP is still trying to figure that out.
macsmurf: proudly flying above the cloud of bias.
Reminds me of Fox News vs. MSNBC:
"You're biased. I'm objective."
"No, you're biased. I'm objective."
"LOL."
*fists fly*
Bias is inherent.
And calling someone's argument bias without responding to or refuting the argument itself shows...bias.
Is froyo the one that finally adds universal cut, copy, paste across all apps? Or is that the next one?
Wrong. Check any true iOS/Android cross-platform app (aside from Google's own, of course) and the iOS version is superior to the Android version in almost every case. Read the reviews if you'd like.
Still a strawman. I never claimed iOS to be more secure than Android. You continue to put words in my mouth.
The facts I stated are facts because they are. Your weak "so what?" responses do not discount them as facts.
HP is still trying to figure that out.
HP hasn't done anything with them.
I hope that tablet is worth it. ><
What exactly are you claiming then? You take everything I write and convert into a strawman. You then ignore the main argument I make - Locked down App Store is no good reason to feel secure - ex. jailbreakme.com which doesn't require Apple's scrutiny or control or permission to install stuff on your system. If something can be done it will be done. Simple.
I guess you are again going to take the help of the strawman defense - don't rely too much on it, its weak and our argument is already falling wayside due to continuous repetition of "FACTS" without reasoning.
The bottom line...
Android and iOS going at it in the market place is a good thing. It provides consumers choices. Choices at the platform level, at the carrier level and choices at the OS level. And we have at least two extremely competitive companies (Google and Apple) who will raise the bar every 6-12 months.
I can't wait to see what becomes of it.
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Jail-broken 32Gb iPhone 4; 17" MBP, OSX 10.6 and VMWare Fusion running Window 7
Android and iOS going at it in the market place is a good thing. It provides consumers choices. Choices at the platform level, at the carrier level and choices at the OS level. And we have at least two extremely competitive companies (Google and Apple) who will raise the bar every 6-12 months.
I can't wait to see what becomes of it.
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Jail-broken 32Gb iPhone 4; 17" MBP, OSX 10.6 and VMWare Fusion running Window 7
Meh
This is essentially the same type of data the people were whooping about when it showed college kids "preferred" Apple. Compare OS or compare hardware, but don't mix the two. The info is essentially useless for making any sort of conclusion as to where things are going.
This is essentially the same type of data the people were whooping about when it showed college kids "preferred" Apple. Compare OS or compare hardware, but don't mix the two. The info is essentially useless for making any sort of conclusion as to where things are going.
How long did it take Apple to implement Copy and Paste?
Or Cut and Paste in OSX
+1
I don't know if you've heard but there are countries and civilizations outside of North America.
And calling someone's argument bias without responding to or refuting the argument itself shows...bias.
Your argument seem to be that you can predict the future based on a number of facts you have decided are important while ignoring other facts that seem to contradict your conclusion. Your facts are important and factual. Your conclusion does not follow from the facts, though. Non sequitur, in other words.
The quarterly Android handset sales figures are very impressive. Only time will tell if they can overtake iOS and if they can grab the same hefty profit margins. Right now, Apple is walking away with the lion's share of the industry profits.
Competition is good. This doesn't allow Apple to become complacent. They will just have to keep working hard to continue being a contender.
Competition is good. This doesn't allow Apple to become complacent. They will just have to keep working hard to continue being a contender.
That's because many of your points are strawmen. You continue to make the point that I'm arguing that iOS is more secure than Android based on the software itself. Not so. I'm arguing that a combination of smaller market share and a regulated app store will result in a less-targeted platform, hence a more secure mobile computing environment.
I'd rather live in an unlocked cottage in Astoria than in an apartment in Compton with triple deadbolts and metal bars on the windows. You can continue to argue that the cottage is more insecure all you want. That won't change the fact that it's your plasma TV in Compton that's going to get stolen.
Windows is the apartment in Compton in the desktop space. I'd prefer that Android become the apartment in Compton of the mobile space and not iOS.
Security through obscurity? Of course. It's a reality in computing and in life.
And you continue to ignore that a locked-down app store nonetheless offers more security benefits than one with a wide-open front door where the environment is equivalent (Compton).
What difference does it make? Aren't we comparing devices as they exist today?
We're already hearing this from the WinPho 7 camp regarding a device that isn't even out yet. "No copy/paste? Big deal! It took Apple two years to get this!"
Um, irrelevant.
I am predicting the future based on these facts. Feel free to predict your own alternative future based on facts of your own choosing. Only time will resolve the argument.
Though I haven't seen you respond with any facts of your own to "contradict my conclusion." Only accusations of bias.