I hope it’s sooner than 20-30 years. The idea that everyone must wake up at 6am and drive to an office or it’s not work is an outdated idea. Sure some still have to, but a lot don’t. You can call them lazy if you want. I call them smart. Why not make your life/work balance better if it’s possible? Isn’t the point of a “job” so you can live and improve your life? Employees finally have power again to make a change.
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Apple Staff Complain About Plans for Return to Office Work in Letter to Tim Cook
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Please. I'm sure the air in there is filtered to the nth degree. Probably better than the air outside.
It sounds like people in your department need to reconsider what's important. Maybe those in the office could be replaced with employees who can adapt?
Y'all would run Apple into the ground if you were running it. Apple isn't some beneficent lord doling out gifts to the meaningless peons who can be easily replaced at the drop of a hat. Apple isn't a factory line staffed by unskilled labor. Apple wildly profits from it's employee's highly-skilled intellectual inputs.
And just because a change for the better is happening to other people that you won't get to have, that doesn't mean you should be against it. "I worked my whole life and always had to be in the office 5 days a week, so screw these guys for trying to have a better situation!" A good person plants a shade tree even though they know it won't provide any shade during that person's lifetime.
And just because a change for the better is happening to other people that you won't get to have, that doesn't mean you should be against it. "I worked my whole life and always had to be in the office 5 days a week, so screw these guys for trying to have a better situation!" A good person plants a shade tree even though they know it won't provide any shade during that person's lifetime.
My organization is still basically work from home unless there's an operational need to go into the office, and yesterday I had an operational need to go into the office for the first time since early March, AND I LOVED IT.
Working from home is fine and I can be productive there, but I quite enjoyed being in a suit and being back in the office for a day. It just felt more professional.
Working from home is fine and I can be productive there, but I quite enjoyed being in a suit and being back in the office for a day. It just felt more professional.
And people who only work 40 hours a week and use their vacation time are lazy too. A lot of employees work very hard from home. As a business, would you rather have a great worker who happens to work remote or a incompetent worker who is willing to be in an office 8-5?
No doubt in any organisation there are hardworking people who you can trust to maintain their workload from home, and there are also those that barely do any work when in the office, and even less when they’re at home.
If an organisation has good checks and balances in place to hold employees to account, fine, let people work from home. But if your organisation is incompetent, you will find that some employees will follow suit, and the best way of keeping an eye on employees is having them in the office.
They got used to being home & now don’t want to go back to work. That’s all that is.
I support the notion that companies that require employees who transitioned to home to return to the office are incompetent.
In the real world the quality of workers and those needing direct supervision varies widely. It’s not a binary world as you describe.
Yeah. That's the point.
Although 'got used to' makes it sound like they were on vacation. More like they brought work and stress into their home to support a company that would have struggled and lost money had they not. Now they are asking for the company to repay them for their sacrifice by allowing those who 'got used to' the change to continue to work from home.
That median includes Apple retail employees, which largely outnumber the staff at this facility. I guarantee the median wage earned by those who work at the campus is much, much higher.
Home office all week isn't good for all employees, except if they are highly skilled professionals with many years of experience that are no easily replaceable. Home office should be job benefit that you earn once you have built all skills necessary for your position, know perfectly well your team, and have showed that your productivity isn't impaired by where you work from. Do you really think that Apple Park is full of genuineness many of which cant be replaced with people working remotely from less expensive states? In my opinion, the employees signing this letter are shooting themselves in the foot. Apple Park is full of staff that is paid double the national average just because the life in Cupertino area is expensive. If Apple moves to full week home office, all supporting positions could be replaced with employees literally from around the globe.
So they brought work and stress into their home and now want this permanently as a benefit? Cant understand your point here. If Apple had to close, they would have stopped mailing pay checks, so the first one hurt are the employees.
Lots of weird sentiments in this thread. Many (not all and obviously there are exceptions galore) professional jobs are at will. You and the employees are free to part ways.
Speaking from the perspective of a large fortune corporation I dont see how one can determine how effective they are; especially if management is saying they want their employees back.
Are you sure? Are you aware that you might need to pay $1.5 million for a smallish house with 1 hour commute (one way) to work for Apple? There are other companies in Silicon Valley (and elsewhere) and some even offer remote work. Apple may end up with subpar talent.
Good for them. Every employee should be able to work remotely if they want to. It's 2021, not 1971. There's no excuse for it other than executive distrust and control issues.
They can complain, but they will come back or be replaced with almost no impact to Apple.
For many MANY roles today, there's absolutely no reason to need an employee to be physically at a geographic location to do their job.
Yeah, just no. You must not work in a Fortune 100 company. Lots of ideas, problem solving, relationship building, and innovation result from unplanned conversation.
Many employees need supervision. Many jobs require more teamwork and in person discussions. Sure, you can email, ping people, or Zoom…but you’ll only do those when you have to.
I do a very complex finance role for a Fortune10 company. While I can “do” my job at home and have done so for the last 15 months, I can easily see the problems with being at home all the time.
As an essential hospital worker who never had the option of not coming to work physically I feel very little empathy for the workers. I had to come to work and directly interact with Covid positive patients. Now things are no longer scary so I don’t get why they can’t go into an office building
Apple's policy is very reasonable but a very small fraction of employees are attempting to take advantage of the situation. From talking to actual Apple employees, morale is very strong, but you can never satisfy 100% of the people 100% of the time.