Dang, so that means if you want them to replace battery, you've got to leave it with them for a month??
I was reacting to the remark:
"I'd like to see Microsoft, Samsung, Lenovo, and Asus give the same kind of service... Just sayin".
I just said that they do if it is their fault. A faulty battery is a faulty battery. Exploding now or failing a few years later.
Another example: Microsoft extended the 'red ring' warranty for the Xbox to three years and later extended it even more (this was in 2009). So my reaction still stands: They do if it is their fault.
My mid 2012 Retina says "Check the battery".
Clicking on the battery warning brings up the help window, the related paragraph says the following (G Translate):
Check the battery: The battery will not work normally, although you may not notice it and even though it is still charging as it usually does. Submit your computer for service. You can continue to use your computer before it is checked without damaging it.
Does this entitle me to a free battery exchange or will I have to pay the full amount?
Damn 1 month turn around is a long time without a Mac.
Dang, so that means if you want them to replace battery, you've got to leave it with them for a month??
So people have to wait until November for a free repair, but can pay $199 to have it done now. Is there a battery repair kit shortage or not? They have'em if you want to pay but they don't have'em if you want it for free?
This!
Can't make sense of it myself!
Mine says Replace Soon instead of Service Battery. Is it the same thing?
Damn 1 month turn around is a long time without a Mac.
All I think of, when Apple does this is, “free battery! Another 2-5 years of life on my device!”Oh, I might have to bring in my old Macbook Pro. Only usable if plugged in; if unplugged it dies in like 30 mins...
If Apple didn't glue the batteries in they would have avoided this issue in the first place.I'd like to see Microsoft, Samsung, Lenovo, and Asus give the same kind of service... Just sayin
Batteries are consumable items. They wear out. All batteries do this. A battery needing to be replaced after five years is not a faulty battery; it's completely expected.
I don’t get why they were glueing them in a way that basically wrecks the computer when replaced. I like the way they did the batteries for the air. They were screwed in and replaceable.
The whole make nothing serviceable kinda sucks. I have a 2012 MacBook Pro and love the fact that ram and hard drive,battery and dvd drive were all accessible and easily replaceable.
2011 was the zenith for Mac in my books, that's for damn sure.My 2011 17" is irreplaceable. I damn sure would NOT want a TB MBP to replace it.
Coincidentally, after 6 years I just replaced the battery with a OWC Newer Tech one.
So, it'll keep my baby alive that much longer. SSD prices are coming down too, so that'll be next: 2 SSDs in RAID 0. I'd already maxed RAM out.
Can't do ANY of this, on ANY portable Mac, since 2012.
SAD.
I took my 2013 MBP into the local Apple Store yesterday after seeing this article as I've been having trouble with my battery. The Genius Bar dude was pretty rude - I showed him the article and he said "not true, it's a "rumor" site"! He showed me his iPad and it had no information on battery replacement that agreed with the story. It bothered me a little that he had never heard of Mac Rumors... So he did the internal test thing on my MBP and my battery came up as faulty. I said I want to get it replaced either way so he started punching stuff into his iPad. As he was finishing up, my work order refreshed and lo and behold - batteries/unibodies were out of stock until at least 11/15/17 but no further information. I couldn't even make a Genius Bar appointment to bring it back. He said just make one for after that date and everything should work out. I got on Apple's web site when I got home but you can only make appts for 7 days into the future? Weird. At any rate, he said yesterday's visit was attached to my account so there shouldn't be any questions. I just smiled at him when I walked away...
The fact that batteries are consumable items is besides the point in this case. Apple is admitting they have an issue replacing/repairing them. That is the reason why they offer this service for free. If everything would be hunky-dory they would not do this in the first place. My point is that every self-respecting company (when they admit it is their fault) will try to solve this in a customer-friendly way.
Great point. I thought they used space-station level glue just to prevent regular weak glue gradually coming loose due to heat and then rattling with time...
But your idea of just having 4 screw hole posts per battery corner and screwing them in makes more sense and would have given the same level of security against rattling, while being totally repairable.
F- ing Apple... Somehow they have a huge team of hardware engineers and tester and nobody made sure to say "Uh... let's NOT use space-glue on a freaking degradeable component that must be replaced every 1-3 years?!".
I think this was literally upper management going: Well, if it's glued and costs $200 to replace, perhaps they will just trade their dead laptop in to us (so we can refurbish it and re-sell it and make more money from selling it again) and then they'll use that small trade-in credit plus the $200 they saved (by avoiding the battery repair) to buy a NEW model instead... so we can keep fleecing our sheep, instead of letting them keep enjoying their current laptops for years.
Sounds extreme? No. That's literally the only conceivable reason why they shipped laptops with space-glued batteries. User-nonreplaceable by design.
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I've made an appointment to have my rMBP looked at, so in preparation I put the original 512GB SSD back in (been using a Transcend for a while) and installed the OS from scratch, via internet recovery. So I ended up with OSX Lion when it completed, battery status was still "Service Battery". I then updated to High Sierra (via Mountain Lion) and now the battery status has reverted to "Normal". I pulled the original SSD and put the Transcend one back and now it's "Service Battery" again.
I'm assuming that the status got reset at some point during the installs and the clean install hasn't yet detected the true state of the battery.
That's a nice conspiracy theory, and I'm sure it crossed someone's mind at Apple, but it's definitely not the only reason, or, IMHO, even the main reason.
The real reason Apple has gone to glued batteries is the pursuit of thinness. Removable covers add thickness. The entire phone industry has ditched swappable batteries, and phone batteries tend to wear out even faster than notebook batteries. In the portable PC space, note that several other manufacturers competing in premium / ultra-sleek categories where thinness is particularly prized have also moved towards non-swappable batteries in recent years, some of them also using glue.
Maybe I missed something, but I don't think there is a fault here. The service costs the usual $199 for people who want it right away. It's only free (temporarily) for people who choose to wait, due to supply constraints. That strikes me as pretty customer-friendly to me.
Again, maybe I'm missing something - can you point to any evidence of Apple making an exception because of a design defect or similar issue?