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I wonder when all these tech companies are cool with all thier employees working at home and not coming into the office, will eventually learn they can save even more money and will outsource the jobs to third world countries for even cheaper employees.

I totally see high paying tech jobs a temporary thing, in about 10 years these will be gone for most Americans and Western Europe. It will be cheaper programmers and tech managers in other countries and eventually A.I. will take over and do these jobs better and faster, but that's a ways off still.
 
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iPad users will never be happy...at least until the iPad is a clone of a MacBook.

iPad added a lot of great function with iOS15, even if most of that was part of iOS14 for the iPhone. I waited to install beta 2 and the addition of widgets and AppLibrary make WAY more sense to me on iPad than they ever did on iPhone. It's made my experience with iPad much better.

I love the balance between touch screen media device and just enough capability for me to actually do my work on it if needed. But that's me...
Yes, but the iPad users who bought M1 iPads, do not necessarily need Mac OS to be happy. They need something that will enable iPad OS use the power of the processor. Heck you don’t even have to buy an M1. Even the processing power of my 2017 10.5 inch iPad Pro is yet to be fully utilized, but Apple has kept pushing its processor way too much without much software updates. And this year went too far with the marketting of the M1 iPads, and it can’t do anything more than my 4 year old iPad. I don’t want Mac OS too. But I feel Apple missed a deadline for some huge iPad release this year(probably due to work from home). There is so much that can be done with the processing power than running Mac OS.
 
I wonder when all these tech companies are cool with all thier employees working at home and not coming into the office, will eventually learn they can save even more money and will outsource the jobs to third world countries for even cheaper employees.

I totally see high paying tech jobs a temporary thing, in about 10 years these will be gone for most Americans and Western Europe. It will be cheaper programmers and tech managers in other countries and eventually A.I. will take over and do these jobs better and faster, but that's a ways off still.
Oh some don't even see (or want to see it), we already lost LOTS of jobs to India and such, outsurcing was a thing when it was not "easy" to do, with smarworking things became very easy.

I am sure Tim knows exactly what he is doing.

I was working for HP back in the days, they outsurced from HP Dublin to a small company in Milan, and then to India....
 
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Ah, I see. A company compromising with two days remote is not good enough, you want MORE. Talk about entitlement!
No ****, having to be in the office part-time removes one of the biggest benefits of working remotely: not having to live in one of the most expensive areas on earth. You can fly in once a month or once a quarter for important meetings or events, but commuting three times a week is a different ballgame.
 
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No ****, having to be in the office part-time removes one of the biggest benefits of working remotely: not having to live in one of the most expensive areas on earth. You can fly in once a month or once a quarter for important meetings or events, but commuting three times a week is a different ballgame.
Good to see we agree.
 
A lot of folks got pretty comfortable sitting on their biscuit at home. Time to suck it up and get back if that’s what the job entails. If not, there’s always some pyramid-scheme work-from-home gig they can sign up for.
 
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People need to suck it up and go back to work…..i went to work every day in NYC throughout the entire crisis and on public transportation. The 4 train. Every day. And I was fine. Give people an inch and they’ll take a mile.
 
Eh, if you feel like the work is better done in the office then fine, request the staff come back. But whenever I see that it's important to the "company culture" I smell BS. All throughout the pandemic I've had Teams up on one of my monitors and have felt just as connected with my coworkers as I did when we were working together. My office is going back in October and they sent out a survey to see who all is actually coming back... a great deal of people are going to be switching to telework or a hybrid model. And the executives don't care. You know why? Our productivity is as good as it ever has been. So why screw that up just because you want to see people physically sitting in office chairs?
There may be a bit of bias in this post as one size does not fit all. How big is the company in terms of employees? 2, 5, 10, 1000, 100000...all make a difference. What are the services the company offers? How big are the departments and can they work from home.

It's real easy to be myopic about what one believes to be the case as there is no birds eye view that only senior managers in the company have.
 
Our company is bleeding talent, usually the top ones or ones that would do even better as freelancers instead of employed. This was just the catalyst.
What’s worse is, they will be hired back again but as a contracted outsource talent with a very VERY hefty prime on top.
I know of people who left prime jobs in top tier companies to try and reenter the company as a consultant with a hefty lift on the salary. It didn't work out well for those people.
 
People need to suck it up and go back to work…..i went to work every day in NYC throughout the entire crisis and on public transportation. The 4 train. Every day. And I was fine. Give people an inch and they’ll take a mile.
"I had it hard, so everyone else should too."

One of the biggest problems in America, and other places too. The fact is, not every job lends itself to remote work, others do just fine. Painting with a broad brush is foolish. Also, Apple corporate employees have a kind of "gold leaf" on their resume - they can pretty much go anywhere they choose.
 
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These threads are interesting as it get s glimpse how people think. I am surprised to find that many seem to think the employer has dictator right. To some extent yes but unhappy employees are not good employees. I think all employers knows this.

In office for human interactions and at home for tasks demanding concentration. Best of two worlds.
 
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