It’s Apple’s new tagline.“Better than announced”…
That is one of the lowest bars for satisfaction I’ve ever seen, considering what was announced.
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It’s Apple’s new tagline.“Better than announced”…
That is one of the lowest bars for satisfaction I’ve ever seen, considering what was announced.
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I think it’s clear that all the shortcomings of the Apple Studio display are only of concern to those who aren’t buying them anyway. Apple has focused both it’s features and price only on those that WILL buy it. And, they’ve determined that, for that group they are targeting, the perceived “shortcomings” will not affect the sale.I am not going to support Apple and subsidize their expansive basic stand by buying their VESA model at $1599.
I wonder if Apple would reuse a stand for refurbished units.
lg is known for wonky stands, i been using ultrasharp lineup from dell for the past decades and their stands are pretty solid.i ain't going to lie, i have not seen a stand nicer than apple's. I owned the LG 5K and it was height adjustable. It was wonky, tapping the desk wobbles the monitor, etc. you really get what you pay for sometime. The problem with apple is there aren't many competitors in the top end space.
I think it’s clear that all the shortcomings of the Apple Studio display are only of concern to those who aren’t buying them anyway. Apple has focused both it’s features and price only on those that WILL buy it. And, they’ve determined that, for that group they are targeting, the perceived “shortcomings” will not affect the sale.
Not only that, but the old Apple Cinema Displays had easily interchangeable, customer serviceable stands! Until recently you could still get the VESA mount adapter from Apple, you just needed a hex bit and (IIRC?) a flat credit card shape....be innovative, create an interchangeable version.
We are not talking about an adapter for docking another build of modules to the ISS space staion, dear Apple. It is a simple thingie, to make a monitor stand or hang somewhere...
It’s not a gripe. The release was a mess. The monitor may be terrific, but the negative stories surrounding it have been prevalent compared to the positive reviews. The Mac Studio was a marketing home run. The Studio Display, not so much.As always, these forums seem to really attract plenty of people who like to gripe about things. I wouldn't take this as a true sampling of consumer opinion.
Ars Technica has a pretty good review of this monitor and why 5K resolution (which very very few monitors have) specifically is important to some set of users.
Not only that, but the old Apple Cinema Displays had easily interchangeable, customer serviceable stands! Until recently you could still get the VESA mount adapter from Apple, you just needed a hex bit and (IIRC?) a flat credit card shape.
Let's not forget about availability. Monitors last forever. Good luck getting Apple to swap it out in 10 to 15 years.Pricing will vary based on the region, the type of stand or mount being installed, and the cost of labor.
Schedule service and a labor charge to do an effing monitor stand change? Holy Christ!
Yeah.Targeting the ones that will buy it? Lol.
I was responding to a post that literally said Apple was "finding new ways to nickel and dime" customers."That's how we have always done it" is usually not a great reason...
Cost-effective is a relative concept, and we all know Apple makes their money selling grossly overpriced hardware…they’ve never been in this business to make affordable gadgets. Of note: original price-tags on the old Cinema Displays (as small as 22-23”, and as large as 30”) were $3k+ (!). Comparatively, the 27” Thunderbolt displays were a relative steal, at $1k. I’m just glad they have a standalone display product at the lower price point again.
"That's how we have always done it" is usually not a great reason...
While fine print on Apple's website says Studio Display stands and VESA mount adapters are "not interchangeable," customers can visit an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider to have their Studio Display reconfigured after purchase.
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For example, if a customer bought a Studio Display with the standard tilt-adjustable stand and later decides they want to use a VESA mount adapter, they can book a service appointment with an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider and have one installed, according to internal documentation obtained by MacRumors.
Likewise, if a customer bought a Studio Display with a tilt-adjustable stand and later decides they want both a tilt- and height-adjustable stand, an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider can accommodate this request. Pricing will vary based on the region, the type of stand or mount being installed, and the cost of labor.
The standalone stands and VESA mount upgrade kits are only available to certified technicians and are not sold through Apple's online store.
Studio Display orders began arriving to customers last week. Key features of the display include a 27-inch screen size, 5K resolution, a 12-megapixel Ultra Wide camera with Center Stage, a six-speaker sound system with Spatial Audio, one Thunderbolt 3 port, and three USB-C ports. Pricing starts at $1,599 in the United States for a model with standard glass and a tilt-adjustable stand, with several upgrade options available.
Article Link: Apple Stores Can Upgrade a Studio Display's Stand After Purchase
Cheaper to buy a monitor not made by Apple.Cheaper to buy a monitor stand.
You've missed all of the important points, entirely.
For one thing, I am not buying the version that doesn't come with a stand for the same price as the one that comes with a stand. A stand that is not adjustable, and can't be rotated, which makes it completely worthless.
I don't consider VESA an alternative to a stand. Neither does the rest of the display market. Only Apple has created this distinction for the purposes of form and profit over function. I consider a model that only comes with VESA as missing a stand, and worth less than one that comes with a stand.
I am not going to support Apple and subsidize their expansive basic stand by buying their VESA model at $1599.
One thing that I've noticed that is not talked about is height difference. The Studio display standard tops out at 18.3" high while the iMac is approx 20 3/4" tall. If you are used to the height of the iMac, the Studio is going to be more than 2" shorter. Leave it to Apple to miss the obvious.
While fine print on Apple's website says Studio Display stands and VESA mount adapters are "not interchangeable," customers can visit an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider to have their Studio Display reconfigured after purchase.
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For example, if a customer bought a Studio Display with the standard tilt-adjustable stand and later decides they want to use a VESA mount adapter, they can book a service appointment with an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider and have one installed, according to internal documentation obtained by MacRumors.
Likewise, if a customer bought a Studio Display with a tilt-adjustable stand and later decides they want both a tilt- and height-adjustable stand, an Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider can accommodate this request. Pricing will vary based on the region, the type of stand or mount being installed, and the cost of labor.
The standalone stands and VESA mount upgrade kits are only available to certified technicians and are not sold through Apple's online store.
Studio Display orders began arriving to customers last week. Key features of the display include a 27-inch screen size, 5K resolution, a 12-megapixel Ultra Wide camera with Center Stage, a six-speaker sound system with Spatial Audio, one Thunderbolt 3 port, and three USB-C ports. Pricing starts at $1,599 in the United States for a model with standard glass and a tilt-adjustable stand, with several upgrade options available.
Article Link: Apple Stores Can Upgrade a Studio Display's Stand After Purchase
This monitor could have been so great. The 5K resolution is so nice to have , but to get fleeced if you want to change the height of a monitor to the tune of $400 is a scandal. Hard wired power plug and no vesa mount unless you spec it … all problems designed in by Apple. I look at every other monitor I have that cost peanuts and all have those 3 things.
It’s stuff like this which really puts me off Apple.
One thing that I've noticed that is not talked about is height difference. The Studio display standard tops out at 18.3" high while the iMac is approx 20 3/4" tall. If you are used to the height of the iMac, the Studio is going to be more than 2" shorter. Leave it to Apple to miss the obvious.
It's insane
Design the back of the monitor with either magnetic or simple screws so one can buy it and swap between stands or VESA at will and/or as needs or setup change over time.
Monitors are usually held onto for a LONG time and its' ridiculous to not have more flexibility designed in.