Apple Stores to Drop Mask Requirement for Vaccinated Customers This Week

[MBAir2010]

Why couldn’t Apple have raised capacity limits or allow people to walk in to browse/buy first before doing this? Will they be keeping track of who is actually fully vaccinated?

if their credit is ample, they will be welcomed!

 

[BobVB]

The mask does not protect you. It protects others from you. If everyone wore masks correctly for a few months this would have ended a long time ago. Science is real.

Correct. If everyone had locked down- for the incubation through disease resolution time period in the spring of 2020 no one would have had the virus - one way or the other. Then if people had practices preventive measures (avoid crowds, social distancing, masks, hygiene) and everyone who had symptoms or were exposed to someone had participated in contact tracing and subsequent isolation for the incubation period the pandemic would have ended right then and there.

But many people are selfish and stupid, and in the US they have a right to be - and so here we are.

 

[Silverstring]

Do you see what are you doing?..

You and the experts are acting like the masks weren't created before. We knew exactly how they work and what are they good for. The super spreader events were happening with flu too. That's why we usually closed schools for two weeks or so. That's how it's been treated forever. Why is that different with Covid? Why there's no flu but Covid is thriving?

Also, you don't find concerning at all, that Fauci first said there's no need to wear masks and then he had opposite opinion, because he stated that there was a shortage of masks? Don't you find that even slightly a bit concerning? He lied to you and that's a fact. If you're okay with it, that's another thing.

What was Supervillain Machiavellian Mastermind Dr. Anthony Fauci’s endgame, then?

Don’t just “raise questions”, if you’re so convinced, connect the dots for us.

Why did a New York doctor invent a pandemic and moreover, how did he convince governments around the world to go along with it?

I’m not doubting you, just inviting you to explain the logical, step-by-step cause and effect of each portion of the plan, and how it was all coordinated so effectively. You seem pretty sure, so I can only assume you know it all inside and out, and know the entire grand unifying theory.

Please, enlighten us.

 

[Maconplasma]

I live in California and everyone here wear a mask in businesses. I will be interested to see what happens come June 15 when vaccinated people are allowed to not wear a mask in the state indoors.

I live in California and the gyms are removing all masks come Tuesday.

 

[MBAir2010]

naraxus: "I didn't leave Apple Inc, Apple Inc left me."

this is my favorite quote and sums up my experience as well
on the flip side, all those wasted years......

 

[Bollockser]

Medical Apartheid.

 

[canyonblue737]

People have been wearing them for over a year, they are a bit shy. A bar in my town now requires proof of vaccination and is totally maskless and open inside, people. can mingle, chat at other people's tables, etc. As soon as more start doing that other businesses will have to follow suit if they want to compete.

i'm in democratic illinois and the state is open and does not require businesses to check for vaccination cards. the vast majority of companies (nearly all) do NOT check so i'd argue the ones who are still requiring "proof of vaccination" will have to stop doing that and "follow suit if they want to compete." i have all 4 of family COVID vaccination cards on my iPhone (scanned) to show but i doubt i'd return to a business again after having been made to do it once (without government requirement) as i think showing personal medical records to non-government / non-medical folks is a violation. bottom line is people lying about their vaccination status are a threat to themselves not me as i am vaccinated. employees should be also, or masked.

 

[Bonte]

They tried your hypothesis in a good number of countries. Including ours in the early stages. How did it work out? India a classic example that debunks your entire hypothesis.

India has a lot fewer deaths than the US, Japan has almost no Covid deaths, no excess mortality and all that without a full lockdown.

Look at the facts, not the media.

"Tokyo citizens may have developed COVID-19 herd immunity, say researchers"

Tokyo citizens may have developed COVID-19 herd immunity, say researchers

Researchers in Japan and the United States have conducted a study showing that herd immunity to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) may have developed among the citizens of Tokyo during the summer.

www.news-medical.net

 

[Ram65]

This will work very well for liars that pretending to be vaccinated.

I’m not vaccinated best believe ill be in the apple with no mask on . You better hope that vaccine u took works . Trust what u putting into your body lol 😂🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

 

[BobVB]

i'm in democratic illinois and the state is open and does not require businesses to check for vaccination cards. the vast majority of companies (nearly all) do NOT check so i'd argue the ones who are still requiring "proof of vaccination" will have to stop doing that and "follow suit if they want to compete." i have all 4 of family COVID vaccination cards on my iPhone (scanned) to show but i doubt i'd return to a business again after having been made to do it once (without government requirement) as i think showing personal medical records to non-government / non-medical folks is a violation. bottom line is people lying about their vaccination status are a threat to themselves not me as i am vaccinated. employees should be also, or masked.

Eventually that might be true. The business is really doing it to 1) reassure the vaccinated who are still a bit skittish, and 2) if they get a confirmed COVID case at the business it might have to reduce operation again which could be the financial last straw.

I have no problem with showing a business that I care about them as much as they care about me. But you do you.

 

[Silverstring]

Fauci did what was right with the information we had and altered his approach as new facts were known, you know - he followed the science.

No, no, no…you don’t understand.

Changing your mind as new information comes along isn’t keeping up with the truth as we understand it at the time, it’s lying.

I, for one, am thankful some doctors stay true and still treat with leeches, lobotomize patients with mental health issues, and determine death by placing a mirror under patients’ breath.

 

[BobVB]

India has a lot fewer deaths than the US, Japan has almost no Covid deaths, no excess mortality and all that without a full lockdown.

Look at the facts, not the media.

"Tokyo citizens may have developed COVID-19 herd immunity, say researchers"

Tokyo citizens may have developed COVID-19 herd immunity, say researchers

Researchers in Japan and the United States have conducted a study showing that herd immunity to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) may have developed among the citizens of Tokyo during the summer.

www.news-medical.net

The Japanese all but closed their border and have a national tradition of obligation to others. As has been noted in articles the Japanese didn't need to be told to act responsibly, they did so as a public duty.

And your article is from September 2020 - their daily deaths per 100,000 shows the pronouncement might have been premature.

 

[tegranjeet]

Step back for a moment and look at this bickering, so political. Why? It should be about health. The pandemic has all been about political control. The government wanting more control and we’ve given it to them. We are throwing freedom away. Cook your own food, grow some if you can, move your body everyday however you’d like, love your family and friends and enemies and pets, work an honest job. Best healthcare in the world right there. Everything’s gonna be alright.

 

[JoeShades]

I’m not vaccinated best believe ill be in the apple with no mask on . You better hope that vaccine u took works . Trust what u putting into your body lol 😂🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

There is no need to hope when there is scientific evidence. You better hope you don't get covid and get sick because there is scientific evidence you very well may

 

[Maconplasma]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know the two following stats:
- Death rate of vaccinated people who die from contracting Covid from someone else?
- Death rate of people who die in a car accident?

I hope this is rhetorical because you can easily find that info on Google search.

 

[whsbuss]

Glad to see we are getting through this.

Thank you President Trump for getting the vaccine to the people.

 

[Maconplasma]

Lol, you are claiming your parents never had to tell you? Right…

Face it man you wrote it wrong. You stated MOST PEOPLE need to be forced to brush their teeth. That accounts for most of the world which is nonsense. You should've said many small kids need to be forced to brush their teeth.

 

[steve09090]

There are many complications. Lack of privacy is one of them, yes. Another is that this effectively enforces a mandate for a specific subset of the population. It's discriminatory.

I understand the reasoning behind asking for proof of vaccination, and it theoretically contributes to the health of the collective nation. But if a precedent is set here, who's to say it can't be set for other things? "You must wear a mask if you haven't been vaccinated." "You must wear an identifying pin if you are a Jew." The similarity is more than enough to make me take a second glance.

If vaccine passports are allowed, then the unvaccinated are prevented from normal activities. Not vaccinated? Sorry, you can't get on the plane. Vaccinated? Go right ahead!

This type of discrimination makes being a united people even harder. If you aren't vaccinated, people can restrict you from certain services or opportunities as they see fit.

Why should a vaccinated person and their children have to rely on the decision made by the the lack of sanity of an anti-vaxxer to be safe. There are many examples of a requirement to prove ones status for safety. A person with a security clearance, travelling from countries with certain prolific diseases. Don't compare it to the Holocaust. There is a big difference between freedom and safety.

 

[Feyl]

masks didn't make much difference and looking at the number of events and the number of vectoring incidences shows that it wasn't spreading by 'super spreader' events

So why we have to wear masks then? In my country we even have to wear FFP2 respirators. Nobody is wearing them anyway and we have like 70 cases a day and with each day they're lower and lower. There's basically no Covid. So when we don't have to be scared about super spreader events, then why all those restrictions? Also remember when so many people were critical of Trump rallies, but when Biden won the streets were suddenly full of people dancing and celebrating? That was ok. Covid disappeared or what?

 

[Analog Kid]

Medical Apartheid.

Because the victims of apartheid could have changed their circumstances with a simple injection?

There are some really troubling analogies being drawn in this thread.

 

[erniefairchild1]

They are dropping mask requirement for vaccinated customers.

"employees have been told that they won’t be required to ask customers for verification of vaccination"

Which they won't know if they have been vaccinated because they won't be required to ask. Absolutely ridiculous.

Whats the big deal with asking someone to prove if they have been vaccinated, and don't give me all this privacy BS.

Stay in your basement and wear your mask forever. Bye!

 

[Feyl]

They tried your hypothesis in a good number of countries. Including ours in the early stages. How did it work out? India a classic example that debunks your entire hypothesis.

India is getting much much better after they started using Ivermectin. Also you really want to give India as an example? A country that's famous with bad hygiene, lots of illnesses and poor health care system?

 

[JoeShades]

Medical Apartheid.

Laughable nonsense

 

[Feyl]

Why did a New York doctor invent a pandemic and moreover, how did he convince governments around the world to go along with it?

Again. I did not say anything like this. You're twisting it and you know it because you don't like what I'm saying. I'm stating he's a big part of this scamdemic and the world has evidence of that. Explain to me why there's no pandemic in Mexico, Florida, Texas, Sweden, Belarus, etc.? Why can't the rest of the world live normally?

 

[MBAir2010]

Then if people had practices preventive measures (avoid crowds, social distancing, masks, hygiene) and everyone who had symptoms or were exposed to someone had participated in contact tracing and subsequent isolation for the incubation period the pandemic would have ended right then and there.

Still. more people died of natural causes in the United States than SARS-Covid19 in 2020.