Apple Stores to Drop Mask Requirement for Vaccinated Customers This Week

[BobVB]

So why we have to wear masks then? In my country we even have to wear FFP2 respirators. Nobody is wearing them anyway and we have like 70 cases a day and with each day they're lower and lower. There's basically no Covid. So when we don't have to be scared about super spreader events, then why all those restrictions? Also remember when so many people were critical of Trump rallies, but when Biden won the streets were suddenly full of people dancing and celebrating? That was ok. Covid disappeared or what?

Actually Biden had a remote inauguration and I must have missed the massive unmasked non-socially distances organized celebrations. As to your country, I am glad the pandemic is receding, as we can see your country had a bad time of it until recently. How is the vaccination program there? Looks like it is approaching 50%, I suggest that is part of the reason to celebrate.

 

[Ram65]

There is no need to hope when there is scientific evidence. You better hope you don't get covid and get sick because there is scientific evidence you very well may

😂😂Lol oh I’ll be be fine I’ll keep doing what I’m doing by keeping my immune system built naturally, you know proper diet and vitamins . Hopefully Dr Fauci and them won’t change up what we can and can’t not with the virus . I hope they don’t push a 3rd vaccine shot on you 😐

 

[BobVB]

Still. more people died of natural causes in the United States than SARS-Covid19 in 2020.

Well 1) COVID is a natural cause, 2) COVID was the 3rd highest cause of death in 2020 @ US behind heart disease and cancer.

 

[Fatboy71]

Stay in your basement and wear your mask forever. Bye!

My point was not about mask wearing, it was the point of letting vaccinated people in the shop without a mask, but they was going to be no emphasis for them to prove it.

 

[Act3]

Not sure how true this is

Third of patients who died after catching Indian variant had BOTH jabs

NEARLY one-third of patients who died of coronavirus after catching the Indian ‘Delta’ variant had received BOTH Covid jabs, says a report. As fears of a third wave grow, England’…

www.the-sun.com

 

[4jasontv]

Face it man you wrote it wrong. You stated MOST PEOPLE need to be forced to brush their teeth. That accounts for most of the world which is nonsense. You should've said many small kids need to be forced to brush their teeth.

Most people DO need to be forced to brush their teeth. I didn’t say for their entire life. What I should have said was ALL people have to be forced to brush their teeth but I assumed some kids my choose to do it. All adults were kids so it’s not necessary to say small kids.

Brushing teeth is a leaned behavior that’s good for oneself. Just like wearing a mask.

 

[phalseHUD]

Direct quote from a Dr. Facui email back in Feb 2020:

"Although the CURRENT RISK of coronavirus to the American public is low, the fact that there is community spread of avirus in a number of countries besides China and including South Korea, Japan, Italy, Iran among others poses a risk that we may progress to a global pandemic of COVID-19"

It turned out to be true. Rest of his emails maintains his stance.

We ask again, what particular aspect of the emails show that there is not a pandemic as said or characterized by Dr. Fauci? Please quote a particular email, otherwise I'm going to assume you got your news from Tucker Carlson which I believe is one of the least reliable sources of information.

Where does one get the most reliable sources of information?

 

[itickings]

Again. I did not say anything like this. You're twisting it and you know it because you don't like what I'm saying. I'm stating he's a big part of this scamdemic and the world has evidence of that. Explain to me why there's no pandemic in Mexico, Florida, Texas, Sweden, Belarus, etc.? Why can't the rest of the world live normally?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding you, but … you seem to be getting your information from flawed sources.

Plenty of covid-19 cases (and deaths) all over Sweden (despite restrictions); ergo, pandemic. Numbers are improving, but it’s still not over.

Source: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...istik-och-analyser/bekraftade-fall-i-sverige/

 

[phalseHUD]

Until under 12 year old population is eligible for vaccination AND Apple Store employees stop wearing masks, I will be wearing.

Do you have children under 12, and would you vaccinate them now if you could?

 

[hot-gril]

The mask does not protect you. It protects others from you. If everyone wore masks correctly for a few months this would have ended a long time ago. Science is real.

If it's N95, it protects you too.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Why should a vaccinated person and their children have to rely on the decision made by the the lack of sanity of an anti-vaxxer to be safe. There are many examples of a requirement to prove ones status for safety. A person with a security clearance, travelling from countries with certain prolific diseases. Don't compare it to the Holocaust. There is a big difference between freedom and safety.

If you’re vaccinated, you aren’t relying on the decisions of others. That’s the point. You’re vaccinated. You now have just a 5% or so chance of getting COVID, and an even smaller chance of being strongly affected by it.

 

[4jasontv]

If it's N95, it protects you too.

If it’s a dark cloth it protects people too.

 

[Act3]

Masks have been optional here in Florida for a long while now in most places... Not doing worse than anywhere else as far as virus is concerned.

Local Wawa I was just in had about 20 customers , none with masks, but every employee still wears one.

 

[BobVB]

Not sure how true this is

Third of patients who died after catching Indian variant had BOTH jabs

NEARLY one-third of patients who died of coronavirus after catching the Indian ‘Delta’ variant had received BOTH Covid jabs, says a report. As fears of a third wave grow, England’…

www.the-sun.com

Unfortunately there is something to it:

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine recipients have lower antibody levels targeting the Delta variant than other SARS-CoV-2 variants

Levels of antibodies in the blood of vaccinated people that are able to recognise and fight the new SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant first discovered in India (B.1.617.2) are on average lower than those against previously circulating variants in the UK, according to new laboratory data from the Crick...

www.crick.ac.uk

 

[hot-gril]

True. But not getting the flu vaccine ever in my life, I never got the flu.

The one time I had a flu vaccine it gave me the flu.

also, I never try anything in the medical market that hasn’t been thoroughly tested for at least 5+ years, this includes prescriptions.

But covid19 hasn't been thoroughly "tested" for 5 years. We don't know what it does to you long-term and have already seen signs of permanent respiratory damage. Vaccine is also an unknown but hasn't shown problems yet. I'd rather take my chances with the vaccine than the virus.

I never get vaccinated against the flu, though. The flu has been around for decades, and vaccinating against it is both futile and pointless.

 

[ahostmadsen]

So, only people who are vaccinated will wear masks in the stores, since they take Covid-19 serious. The maskless will be the unvaccinated Covid-19 conspiracy theorists.

 

[Realityck]

Apple will no longer require vaccinated customers to wear masks inside their retail stores in the U.S, a major shift in policy compared to last month, according to Bloomberg.

The new change, expected to go into effect on Tuesday, will no longer require customers who have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 to wear masks inside Apple Stores in the United States. Bloomberg notes that Apple has been informing retail leaders and staff of the change, noting that employees will continue to be required to wear masks.
Apple last month told retail employees that mask requirements would stay in place following updated guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which states that fully vaccinated people no longer need to wear a mask outdoors or in the majority of indoor settings.

You know this article is very misleading. Bloomberg said the following

Apple Inc. plans to drop its mask requirement for vaccinated customers at many U.S. stores beginning next week, a move that will mark yet another major retailer moving away from the Covid-19 safety protocol as states ease restrictions.

So this article is generalizing this decision as towards in all states, which is wrong. Its only in states that are allowing this easement of wearing masks. So MacRumors should correct this article.

Apple’s U.S. Stores, Offices to Start Dropping Mask Requirement

Apple Inc. plans to drop its mask requirement for vaccinated customers at many U.S. stores beginning next week, a move that will mark yet another major retailer moving away from the Covid-19 safety protocol as states ease restrictions.

www.bloomberg.com

The planned change in the company’s mask policy change corresponds with California’s timeline to reopen the state on Tuesday and ease most restrictions for vaccinated individuals. Apple previously relaxed its mask requirement in some other regions, including in Australia.

 

[Act3]

So, only people who are vaccinated will wear masks in the stores, since they take Covid-19 serious. The maskless will be the unvaccinated Covid-19 conspiracy theorists.

I really wouldn't call them consipracy theorists... After all, how many times do you see class action lawsuits or the FDA pull pharmaceuticals from the market after side effects show up years later? And these are drugs that have gone through the full FDA gauntlet for approval and then stuff shows up later.

 

[ahostmadsen]

If people are vaccinated, why should they need to wear masks? How does that make it less of a "safe environment?" If you "follow the SCIENCE" like so many people preach, then it becomes pretty obvious that wearing a mask after being vaccinated is like wearing water wings in the rain: there's no point.

Totally correct, if the US had a vaccine passport as Israel and Europe. But without such a verification system, this policy is just encouragement to unvaccinated Covid-19 deniers to spread the virus.

 

[Act3]

Totally correct, if the US had a vaccine passport as Israel and Europe. But without such a verification system, this policy is just encouragement to unvaccinated Covid-19 deniers to spread the virus.

spread it to who? those who are vaccinated? Land of the Free and Home of the Brave... No vaccine passport needed.

 

[Populus]

You do know that even the Anthony Fauci believes face masks don't work? In his leaked emails he admitted they do nothing to stop viruses and is little more than security theatre.

This just sounds like a 'look at how virtuous and morally righteous I am'. Wear it all you want. But please don't pretend the masks they hand out and encourage you to use actually offer any real protection. I was in the military and received NBC training, even if you were wearing a mask that does offer protection against viruses like covid - which I strongly doubt you are, I'm willing to bet your operational procedures for it are letting you down elsewhere.

I'm sick of the holier than thou attitudes like this.

I think it should be on a person by person basis. If you want to wear a mask at work, then wear one. The majority aren't cowering in fear of this thing. I'm been fortunate enough to live in the South and it's like covid never happened compared to elsewhere. Let me and my family decide what's best.

Also we were 100% right in not trusting Fauci. It was his grants from the NIH that quite literally funded the creation of this virus and left wing media denied it came from a lab.... right up until they couldn't hide it any more.

It is nothing moral. I actually don’t like that morallistic superiority attitude either. I do it for self-survival, for self-defense, and to help contain the spreading (if I get COVID, people on my home get COVID, people I stay on the same room or facility can get COVID) and the new variants like the indian ones are even more transmissible.

Honestly, there’s much controversy about face masks. I do believe they work, not the quirurgical ones, but the FFP2 and FFP3 that are the ones I use since the outbreak started. Believe me, this is not about posing, and not about politics either (I am not on the woke wave, the cancel culture and all of that stuff, for instnace, why the hell do everyone make this left-right association?? There are more colors than red and blue, there are many ideas and points of views) this is about survival. About not ending up in the hospital, about not getting persistent COVID. People in Asia have been using face masks for a long time, although they used to do it for pollution, I guess.

And I go a bit further. Now that many places are installing face recognition cams, face-masks help me preserve my privacy if we end up in a 1984 scenario. I have many reasons to want to wear a face-mask, now that is a normal, accepted thing. And I respect your reasons to not wear them, once the pandemic has finished.

 

[Labeno]

I hope this is rhetorical because you can easily find that info on Google search.

My goal was critical thinking, backed up with logic and numbers, since that seems to be so rare nowadays. Here's a simple thing to think about... Less than 1000 vaccinated people have died (world wide in a half of year) from getting covid, yet on average about 1.3 million people die from car accidents world wide every year like clockwork.

So the math shows vaccinated people have about 1000x more chance of death from getting in a car than getting covid. I just wish leaders and media would state this type of simple logic, and stop the fear mongering. Statistically, the unvaccinated are not endangering the vaccinated, but cars are.

As a person of logic, I would love to hear the counter logic so I'm well informed.

 

[jjudson]

Sometimes on MacRumors these days, I can't tell if I wandered into Democratic Underground or Free Republic by accident...

 

[Realityck]

Sometimes on MacRumors these days, I can't tell if I wandered into Democratic Underground or Free Republic by accident...

Well this MacRumors article just assumed it was applicable to all USA Apple stores, its not, what can one say.

 

[Populus]

I hope you seek help, because this is not a healthy way of living. Truly, no sarcasm. The way COVID has been dealt with has damaged people psychologically. To feel this way even after being vaccinated…please speak with someone. I wish you success going forward.

I liked your message, because I want to think it has good intentions. If that’s the case -and not sarcasm- thank you.

However, I’m still a bit skeptical about how the pandemic will evolve. If winter comes, and with most of the population vaccinated COVID and the new variants are not a real threat anymore, I will change my mind, I will relax, like most people. However, I think it is still early to claim victory. We’ll see.

And, hey, I trully hope you’re right and once everyone is vaccinated, COVID will be a thing of the past and new variants won’t challenge the vaccines. I trully hope you’re right. So far, the numbers are promising, but we’re almost in summer, and we’ve seen this virus has some stational fluctuations, having the worst waves in december-january.