Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I am pretty sure it is not too far fetched to think it will include 32 gigs of solid state considering a 32 gig 1.8" drive was already released a year ago.

Imagine two of those suckers in every laptop, and with RAID (striped to combine capacity AND almost double throughput (mwa ha ha)). That should be no problem with ZFS.
 
The subnotebook will be a 13inch that is no thicker than the current macbook pro screen. It's about the size of the iPod touch in thickness... and is ultralight. Apple's not planning to go solid state do to price, there are literally thousands of uber small drives.

You shall see.
 
The subnotebook will be a 13inch that is no thicker than the current macbook pro screen. It's about the size of the iPod touch in thickness... and is ultralight. Apple's not planning to go solid state do to price, there are literally thousands of uber small drives.

How do we know that for sure?
 
Well I think the hard drives is the performance bottleneck in most laptops. If you want to do multimedia and multitastking, I think a 1.8" drive won't cut it as it's slow, small and rather expensive. 2.5" are affordable, big, go up to 7200 rpm and fit nicely into my concept. 1.8" is fine for iPods, but I don't think you could play DVD-quality movies off of it reliably, running Leopard and some small apps in the background.
A 1.8" SSD drive will work fine. Or a combination of the two: SSD and Flash memory.

These were all true in the past. Apple will enter the market in an attempt to re-define "ultraportable" (and will market it as such).

Ultraportables were slow mostly because they had to use low-RPM HDDs and low-power chipsets. SSDs change all that, and the Core2Duo platform at 45nm will be very power efficient.

If they can keep the 13" screen and just reduce the margin around the screen, that would be great. 11" would be too small for me.

Put all this together and I think they will have an ultraportable that sacrifices very little, except for maybe a built in optical drive. I really hope they nail the $1499 price point - you pay a bit of a premium for the size, SSD, etc. but it does pretty much everything a Macbook will. In fact it will feel much faster than the Macbook OR MBP because of the SSD.
I think there will be a price premium for the ultra-portable and it will be a bit more expensive. Sony's attempt comes in around $3,300!

We are looking at a laptop that augments the desktop and not replace it.

I am pretty sure it is not too far fetched to think it will include 32 gigs of solid state considering a 32 gig 1.8" drive was already released a year ago. I am sure by now the cost is down and buying it bulk and Apple's history of getting a good deal on parts, they should be able to get something like this in the touch book.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=6938

SanDisk_SSD_UATA_5000.jpg
Yep!

Or they may just have them surface mounted to save space.

The subnotebook will be a 13inch that is no thicker than the current macbook pro screen. It's about the size of the iPod touch in thickness... and is ultralight. Apple's not planning to go solid state do to price, there are literally thousands of uber small drives.
How do you know this?
 
2. They are not large enough for permanent storage (ie 4.7 gig DVD's are pretty cheap (100 for $17), but a 2 gig USB stick still costs about $50.

I can get 4GB USB sticks for £17.95. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to use the DVDs that you bought "100 for $17" for anything that could be called "permanent storage" :p

To the guy who was worried about buying DVDs at an airport: It would be easy to sell movies in h.264 format in better than DVD quality on a 1GB USB stick. You can buy audio books on USB sticks already, very handy for the car (just plug them in, at least in my car). I bet your battery will prefer playing from a USB stick to playing from a DVD player.
 
These were all true in the past. Apple will enter the market in an attempt to re-define "ultraportable" (and will market it as such).

Ultraportables were slow mostly because they had to use low-RPM HDDs and low-power chipsets. SSDs change all that, and the Core2Duo platform at 45nm will be very power efficient.

If they can keep the 13" screen and just reduce the margin around the screen, that would be great. 11" would be too small for me.

Put all this together and I think they will have an ultraportable that sacrifices very little, except for maybe a built in optical drive. I really hope they nail the $1499 price point - you pay a bit of a premium for the size, SSD, etc. but it does pretty much everything a Macbook will. In fact it will feel much faster than the Macbook OR MBP because of the SSD.



SSDs are already adopting the 2.5" form factor.
Unless the new C2D chips have a TDP of less than 20 Watts, you are going to need a fan. Which again makes the size of the up larger than .5 inches thick (closed).

...and Apple is adopting, wait, they're not. they simply buy the flash chips and solder them onto the PCB. like they do with iPods. why waste space with bulk plastic when you've got major companies releasing and developing exclusive parts just for you products (e.g. Intel quad-core Xeons)
Xeon isn't made specifically for Apple. Never has and never will.

I haven't heard anything to this effect - but what would be really awesome is if, by ditching the optical drive and going to a 45nm processor, there is enough room to implement a thermally passive (no fans) design in this ultraportable. It may not happen this January, but I think 2008 will be the year of the solid state computer. No fans, no spinning disks, no moving parts. And I hope Apple will lead the way!
Yeah maybe a 1 Ghz chip (if that).

I am pretty sure it is not too far fetched to think it will include 32 gigs of solid state considering a 32 gig 1.8" drive was already released a year ago. I am sure by now the cost is down and buying it bulk and Apple's history of getting a good deal on parts, they should be able to get something like this in the touch book.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=6938

SanDisk_SSD_UATA_5000.jpg
That drive is PATA not SATA. The SATA drives are super expensive (and I am not sure why).
 

well that for sure is more interesting than a stand alone sub notebook ... personally i would like a notebook but prefer working on a desktop while at home so it at least would create an option

i wonder how it will be priced ... i hope they don't price it like it is made from moon rocks
 
That's old idea

I think that the the sub-notebook (Macbook Mini) Should have an open bay on the bottom so that different accessories can be inserted in and taken out when needed, such as:

An optical drive can be put in when needed

Another hard drive for maybe TimeMachine

A second battery for the long trips

or anything else a person wants.

Thats a VERY old idea... way back to first Toshiba Qosmio! :eek:

Loved the idea though! :cool:
 
I really like this concept, and, perhaps oddly, I like it even more if the subnotebook is actually a leach of sorts on a more powerful CPU. In other words, if I could use my regular Mac - a decent iMac, a Mac Pro, etc., with a subnotebook in the monitor constantly being kept up-to-date with everything in my home folder, then I could pop out the subnotebook, take it wherever, keep working on my files, and have them automatically synched when I return.

Done properly, it'd all be seemless, and I could use Back to My Mac to fetch larger files stored elsewhere.

And it would overcome the issues of a subnotebook having inferior capabilities - a dock with an HD is nice, but a whole other, faster Mac is even better.
 
There is no way Apple would release a sub-notebook with a trackpad like that. As mentioned earlier in this thread, where would you place the palms of your hands when typing?!

That picture is a confirmed fake, as stated earlier in this thread. Confirmed by MacRumors sources, so, trust them :p

Oh, sorry. Didn't exactly read the whole thread. So I am better off to trust another rumor source? :p


What's the point in a docking station with an 11" or 12" screen?

Enlighten me please...
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.