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Apple Suing Motorola Over Design of Xoom Tablet
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i can't, there's a patent "a device that lets u leave the atmosphere" that wont let me built a spacecraft on my own
The whole #$%& galactic patent system is broken!
Double Down Rightly So!!!!
Moto must be crapping their pants. The Galaxy Injunction will bring this rip off down as well.
Take No Prisoners Tim. They would do the same to you in a minute.
Yeah that just going to show how insane these law suits are. How many ways can you do a black slab tablet. A black bezel makes the screen pop a little more. Do you want a picture a black bezel is on my 17in LCD monitor from summer 2004. My dell laptop black bezel. Macbook pro black bezel around the monitor.
It is a thin black slab there are only so many ways you can do it. Apple is just going over board on this.
Anyway, I believe Steve Ballmer introduced us to this 2 weeks before Apple showed off the iPad :
Not to mention a whole month before that, Fusion Garage released the JooJoo to much controversy and a TechCrunch lawsuit :
Anyway, a black bezel with rounded edges, not much of a design, HP did that in 2008 :
Not to mention a whole month before that, Fusion Garage released the JooJoo to much controversy and a TechCrunch lawsuit :
Anyway, a black bezel with rounded edges, not much of a design, HP did that in 2008 :
You're nit picking inconsequential details...and missing the main point. You don't get it, do you? Apple/SJ like the dictator, is desperately trying to maintain a house of cards which it must control absolutely. As has been pointed out here more eloquently than I they lack a long-term stable, growth-oriented, competitive business model. They are right smack dab where they were in the late 1980's; a technologically advanced platform heavily reliant on proprietary hardware and interfaces thumbing its nose at industry standards dictating how users and suppliers will interact. They must learn to compete in the main stream and not on their own track or they will be eclipsed once more.
I own three minis, have owned five MacBooks, a MacPro, two iPhones and an iPad because they are the most useful right now. However, because someone (?) at Apple has dictated it as a photographer I have to take a MacBook Air with me on travel because the iPad does not have a functional keyboard, visible file structure and interact with external mass storage..and has a proprietary hardware interface as well. I'm not up on the details but I suspect a number of the new tablets have these functions already.
This technical arrogance has sunk them once and it appears they haven't learned.
Rich
Dreamer. There now is precedent. Nokia was the murkiest pot of suits. Hence, they were bribed into a negotiated settlement so iOS and WIN 7 can take down Android.
HTC, Samsung, and Moto are Iron Clad. Going to be a great 4th Q for APPL.
The Koreans understand now.
Look, I realize that this is an Apple oriented website, and I love my Apple products as much as the next guy, but come on. That Jay-Tech KIRF is an example of who Apple SHOULD be suing. But the fact is that just because other tablets are rectangles do not make them iPad knockoffs! They are different dimensions, completely different OS's, and made out of different material.
Dreamer. There now is precedent. Nokia was the murkiest pot of suits. Hence, they were bribed into a negotiated settlement so iOS and WIN 7 can take down Android.
HTC, Samsung, and Moto are Iron Clad. Going to be a great 4th Q for APPL.
The Koreans understand now.
You're playing a role, don't you?
??? late 2006/early 2007 if i'm not mistaken and this is just ONE of many examples. This a Cowon D2 mp3 player, one of the greatest mp3 player ever!
They are not frightened, not even a little. This is simply a naive notion. Apple has the largest mobile App platform period. The gap in developer support between iOS and Android is enormous, still today. Years after Android supposedly overtook the market share lead.
Android is an app platform for very simple Apps. For anything remotely sophisticated, The Galaxy S is a platform and the Motorola Droid is a platform. When you look at real App platforms, no one is even close to Apples market share. That is a large part of the reasons for developers support of iOS and the continued success of many of them.
No new phone outsold the iPhone 4 in a quarter when it turned a year old. (Unless, like some, you believe Apple sold 16 million iPhone 3GS last quarter).
The updates you think are necessary just canibalize each other. Why do you think 2 of the top 5 Android manufacturers are losing money? How sustainable do you think that is?
Even more so in the tablet space. This is precisely why Android is getting trounced. They have no app support. Applications are what people want on a computing platform.
This whole statement is just foolish. No one can come close to competing with Apple on ecosystem. The only company that may ever have a chance is Amazon.
Specs matter a lot less then experience and capability. Apple's lead in both cases is significant and growing.
You confused quality and specs here. Hardware quality is very important to consumers. Hardware quality is a big part of Apple's edge.
I am actually not sure anything but #2, #4 and maybe #5 is true. Baidu may have more search activity then google. I like Chrome but it has its share of problems and the new Safari certainly gives it a run for its money. I think it is way to early to predict anything about Google +.
None of those things require an investment, they really aren't part of the Android ecosystem at all. In fact every single one of them (besides Android) can be used on an iPhone. Most of them with custom apps built by google.
Apple has users with large investments in App libraries. THat is a meaningful eco-system. Android users don't tend to pay for very many apps at all. Love it or hate it, lock-in is real and is a big part of what eco-system is about. Which one of your google attributes do you think locks people into Android?
I like google they do have a lot of good services. They also make sure all of those services function well on iOS.
They are fighting to protect their investment in R&D. I am not sure if you noticed, but none of these products Apple is complaining about is selling very well. It is unlikely you have ever even seen one outside of a store. They are no threat at all. The Xoom and the Tab are a prime example of Android's woes. You would call them both Android tablets even though they are largely incompatible.
Spoken like someone who has never owned an Android tablet.
Little or no App support??? Step away from the crack pipe.
Hundreds of thousands of apps are available for Android devices.
Over 200,000 (206,143 at the time the count was taken) in the Market alone back in March of this year.
Apple had 333,214 at the time the count was taken.
Android Market is on pace to exceed Apple's App Store in Q4 this year in available apps.
Spoken like someone who has never owned an Android tablet.
Little or no App support??? Step away from the crack pipe.
Hundreds of thousands of apps are available for Android devices.
Over 200,000 (206,143 at the time the count was taken) in the Market alone back in March of this year.
Apple had 333,214 at the time the count was taken.
Android Market is on pace to exceed Apple's App Store in Q4 this year in available apps.
I have a Xoom sitting right here and I have been using it for a month. A friend gave it to me to try to see if I wanted to buy it. (I don't, but he has not really been pressing to get it back. I try to pick it up every day though).
The performance difference is astonishing. I guarantee you that no one who has used a Xoom for more then a minute would call it fast. No one who used both a Xoom and Ipad2 would call the Xoom anything but slow and sad.
You sound more like someone who has never used a Xoom. Use both a Xoom and an iPad for a month and then come back and tell me the App support is the same. Phone Apps suck on all tablets. I refuse to use them on the iPad and I refuse to use them on the Xoom.
Unfortunately that leaves very little in the way of Xoom apps.
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Leave that job to the analysts. Android is a threat. Apple may not be quaking in their boots, but they realize that Android represents serious competition. Anyone can use Android to make their own device, and by the law of large numbers, there is a greater chance that a great product will come into existence. If Google relaxes their requirements for Honeycomb (maybe not release the code just yet) there would be even more options. When Ice Cream Sandwich comes everyone will be able to make an Android tablet.
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Your right of course. I should not speak for other people.
I have a Xoom right here if you want to see one
I have and have since sold it for other reasons.
Very solid tablet and much faster than my iPad2.
The Android 3.2 update helped resolve a few issues I had with video playback, but everything I could do on my iPad, I could do on my Xoom barring Apple only apps. Many of which I could find Android equivalents for.
I also loved the flexibility of being able to customize the OS thanks to Moto letting us have access to OEM Unlock.
Your right of course. I should not speak for other people.
I have a Xoom right here if you want to see one
I was talking about the "no threat at all" part, which I took as applying to future Android tablets as well.
We really shouldn't even need "fastboot oem unlock". They shouldn't be locked down in the first place.
I totally agree with you. MSFT's partnership with Nokia was an excellent move for both companies and it could very well be highly successful. Especially on a global scale where both companies indeed have an excellent brand recognition. And lets be honest. Both companies are immensely successful because they have been offering great products irrespective of their inherent limitations. After all which product or service does not have its own drawbacks.
Having successful companies cooperating and competing with each other is good for everybody. I believe as consumers we should always be against measures that aim to stifle competition and innovation. Even companies that blatantly copy offer a service because they make new features and innovations, even in a distorted form, accessible to millions of people that would otherwise be completely unaware of them of simply inaccessible due to financial constraints.