Apple Suing Motorola Over Design of Xoom Tablet

And neither did Apple invent Tablets in any significant way - they just made them popular. So it is your 'justification at the cost of reality' that does not hold.

If he had patented car making and shut down every other car maker we would have been at loss of several years of innovation that happened outside of Ford's factories.

[ Oh and by the way - let's completely ignore that my post never claimed Henry Ford invented automobile - that knowledge is just a google search away. My implied point was that Apple did not invent tablets - just like how Ford made cars popular and accessible to common man, Apple did something similar to Tablets - not invented but popularized.]

I have never said, or tried to imply that Apple invented the tablet. They improved it to a point that it is highly desirable.

Knowledge is just a click away. It was 1769. And there is this http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/Ford_Patent_Catalog_share_-78925.html

And this. http://www.google.com/patents?id=Ow...maxm_is=1&as_maxy_is=2007#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
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PlipPlop said:
Are Apple going to sue anyone who makes a tablet :rolleyes:

next victim: a cutting board and my samsung tv with a black brezel and round edges and a slim design with a even surface ^^
 
Except it looks like Apple has a case.

MS and "game-changing" products don't quite go together. There is no comparison to begin with.
They have no case. Moto will definitely push to have the patent invalidated in court.
Once this hits an actual court for trial, the design patent will get tossed.
 
Apple Suing EVERY ********* BODY!!

What the hell is it with Apple suing everyone on the planet??
Just because their portfolio is reaching 3 billion??

Jesus H. Christ, Apple...it's not like you charge an arm and a leg for your crap already, now you want to rid yourself of the competition so you can charge EVEN MORE??!?

This is NOT an issue of intellectual property, because Apple did not invent the computer or the touch screen or electronics or anything of the sort. They stole it and I seriously wish that someone would SUE THEM and take back what they did not invent.

I think I am going to leave you, Apple..I'm getting tired of all your crap and your money hungry ways.
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Except it looks like Apple has a case.

MS and "game-changing" products don't quite go together. There is no comparison to begin with.

Except Apple has not won a single case like this yet. So far they have lost just about every patent lawsuit filed by them or against them.
 
While Apple has been engaged in a number of high-profile patent lawsuits with its competitors offering Android-based hardware, one of the quieter disputes has gained new attention today following a discovery by FOSS Patents that Apple has in fact sued Motorola in Europe, claiming that the Motorola Xoom tablet infringes upon the design of Apple's products. The revelation comes in a court document filed in Germany and associated with the preliminary injunction granted against Samsung yesterday barring sale of the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

So, is Apple going to start suing everybody that has a black and rectangle form factor for their tablet? I mean really, there are only so many ways that you can design a tablet and make it usable and not ugly.
 
I used a Xoom and it was pretty nice. Maybe Apple is worried about competition. With all the lawsuits they're filing, they're only opening the door for lawsuits to be filed against them - which is what is happening now - and nobody wins but the lawyers.
 
So, is Apple going to start suing everybody that has a black and rectangle form factor for their tablet? I mean really, there are only so many ways that you can design a tablet and make it usable and not ugly.

So why didn't they design them in the first place?
 
The entire point of a patent is to encourage innovation. Why spend the time/money to come up with something new, just so your competition can piggyback for free?

Because electronic devices are far more complicated than the simple machines that were invented when patent law was created. It used to be a single machine had a patent or two. Now, devices often combine the work of thousands of patents. The old laws simply do not work anymore. We are not making simple mechanical fruit pickers.

Even with all this supposed "copying" Apple is still worlds ahead of the competition because of its superior engineering. There is a big difference between a Xoom and an iPad and no one would confuse the two.

It is absolutely essential that patent laws are revised to reflect the new reality of what we are building these days. If not, we are all going to be stuck with 21st century technology for hundreds of years.
 
They have no case. Moto will definitely push to have the patent invalidated in court.
Once this hits an actual court for trial, the design patent will get tossed.

I think Apple should have just stuck with suing Samsung. They had a better case American Corp. vs Korean. Now they have dragged a big time communications player in on the game. I think Motorola has the resources and firepower to win this case. Apple hasn't been doing a good job with its litigation, tough I think they do this mostly to prove a point. Hell, they have the money to do it.
 
So, is Apple going to start suing everybody that has a black and rectangle form factor for their tablet? I mean really, there are only so many ways that you can design a tablet and make it usable and not ugly.

GG Apple.

How the hell did they get a patent on having a rectangle shape? That's just ridiculous. What kind of invention is that? Come on now, that really took a lot of brain power to "invent" the rectangle shape :roll eyes:

Samsung should be allowed to sell their tablet. Must Samsung create a circular tablet? :eek:
 
The only surprise here is the reaction people have to hearing about these suits.

Apple did state from the beginning of the release of the iPhone that they patented the hell out of it and would defend it aggressively unlike their tech in the past.

The iPhone DID change the direction of the mobile phone industry and the iPad DID change the way tablets where perceived and designed by manufacturers.
 
So why didn't they design them in the first place?

They [i.e. someone other than Apple] did, see other thread for images. Guess why? Because it ticks every box in the "this-makes-sense-list". What do you expect people to do? Make square pads? Circular? Triangular? Honestly, please tell me? Cubical? Do you think we needed Steve Jobs to figure out ratio, size and overall look of a usable so called pad? What next? He invented paper? The written word? God?
 
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The only surprise here is the reaction people have to hearing about these suits.

Apple did state from the beginning of the release of the iPhone that they patented the hell out of it and would defend it aggressively unlike their tech in the past.

But this isn't about patents at all.
 
The only surprise here is the reaction people have to hearing about these suits.

Apple did state from the beginning of the release of the iPhone that they patented the hell out of it and would defend it aggressively unlike their tech in the past.

The iPhone DID change the direction of the mobile phone industry and the iPad DID change the way tablets where perceived and designed by manufacturers.

A well. USA and Europe are soon becoming the 3rd world countries while countries as China will be the superpowers.

Still enough markets for Samsung to sell their stuff.
 
Live and let live? Maybe I don't get it but who cares?

Utopia, Apple is getting sued by many companies as well... should they sit tight?.

I think this is everything to Apple, they see the iPad really as the future of computers and they are trying to win the war well before anyone else realizes what is in stake.
 
Utopia, Apple is getting sued by many companies as well... should they sit tight?.

I think this is everything to Apple, they see the iPad really as the future of computers and they are trying to win the war well before anyone else realizes what is in stake.

So Apple is allowed to have a monopoly?

iOS has been proven to be dog slow in benchmarks, so it's not like Apple is delivering superior products in terms of performance.
 
you may be right in general, I don,t know, but those two examples are not good ones. They both use styluses, OandA said touch screen. And neither one is nearly as minimal as the iPad, the freescale has buttons and grills all over, and isn't symmetrical.

Yeah, okay on the Freescale not being symmetrical :)

The response was to the idea that a thick black bezel was an Apple invention. That old news tablet idea showed otherwise and is quite minimal.

Whether it can use a stylus or not (resistive touchscreens work with them or your finger, as you might know) doesn't matter. It's not part of Apple's EU complaint.

It's interesting that Apple doesn't show buttons in their design documents, btw. Isn't the big Home button a very distinctive part of an iPad? I mean, we all immediately said "Hey the JayTech infringes!" based mostly on that, yet it's not part of the registered design.

Note: Apple's EU documents don't claim anything about a BLACK bezel. That would make it too easy to sell a WHITE one instead !
 
So why didn't they design them in the first place?

Wait, someone like the Crunchpad or Joojoo?

http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/03/crunchpad-the-launch-prototype/
http://www.xataka.com/portatiles/crunchpad-un-paso-mas-cerca-de-ver-la-luz

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