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I understand your concern, but I have been using Lysol disinfectant wipes #ad on all my devices -- Mac, iPhone, iPad -- for over a decade. There has never been any damage or discoloration caused by this. Just plain sterile goodness.

But it would be even more convenient if I can just throw my phone in the dishwasher or the laundry. 🤔
LOL! I don't think any device will ever be THAT waterproof. It's easier, safer, and more effective to just get a UV sterilizer and toss it in there for 10 minutes. There's a device called Homesoap that will do even 14" MacBooks. You can also use it to sterilize your keys, credit cards, etc..
 
So I’ve been running my phones under the tap with no soap since the 7. No problems.
I use dish soap, always hold it so the charge port faces down, been doing it daily to several phones since before the pandemic even started. My old iPhone X has been washed with soap and water hundreds of times now, works just like the day I bought it. Did the same to my 11 pro max, and even my cheap Samsung S20FE.

Not one of them has ever shown the slightest bit of water damage if any sorts. Once I saw everythingapplepro dunk his phones 40 feet below the surface of a river with no damage I realized a little running water from a faucet isn’t gonna hurt anything.

People going around with phones as filthy as a sewer while you can literally lick mine and not get sick😜🍕
 
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Will be very interesting to see how this will play out with cases and gloves.

It will work fine because Force Touch detects force, not capacitance. That’s why it’s called Force Touch. Obviously they aren’t going to put capacitive buttons on the side of the phone. Not really sure why people keep confusing the two technologies.
 
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Will be very interesting to see how this will play out with cases and gloves.
It will result in stupid cases that have to have open spaces for the buttons, providing less protection and allow more ingress of foreign materials that you are trying to keep out.

And it will make it useless with gloves that do not have the touch material, some only have it on one finger, etc... Is Apple gonna include a set of gloves in the box? I doubt it. ;)

Also if they remove the silence switch, that would honestly remove one of iPhone's iconic and longest lasting features, a toggle switch that you can discretely flip at any time without even looking. Not to mention it's the only way to silence the amber alert crap here in Canada (Yes it's different than in the US - we cannot selectively block them).
 
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I would love to get honest opinions! Quite a long time ago "switches" used to physically disconnect a circuit. Then over time we moved to "switches" that transmitted a signal that disconnected the circuit. People, my dad's age, did not like it and thought it was unnecessary. But they still worked. Isn't this just a natural evolution of "switches"?

I am truly curious to get opinions on this. As many people have stated, a wonderful implementation of this is the trackpads on Apple laptops. They seem truly seamless. With that kind of progression, what is the actual concern? If the volume up button acts like my MacBook Pro trackpad, why would I even care if it is a "real" switch or not? Is the concern it won't be as good as the trackpad? Is the concern Apple will forget to account for some behavior? Instead of guessing at what people are worried about, I thought I would just tag a bunch of people and see if anyone feels like sharing :)

Buttons are great. Leave them alone. Haptics instead of buttons are a solution to a problem that doesn’t need to exist.

Reminds me of new cars with solid-state buttons, terrible decision, some cars brands even reversed the decision

Sounds ok to me. I mean it took me a year to find out that my MacBook Pro trackpad doesn't actually depress.

For the love of all that is holy, if they do this I hope they sense pressure and not skin contact. Otherwise every single case design that covers the buttons will no longer work.

Ironically I haven't had any buttons fail on iPhones since my iPhone 5. The current design is robust and reliable. I don't know why they're changing it.

well to be fair everyone the laptop trackpads damn if I can tell they aren't really clicky but they are haptic.
Also that solid state home button from iphones yore was incredibly realistic.

But what worries me about this side button stuff is all of the space needed for the vibration mechanism and you also need touch sensors. Seems like you are not saving that much?

I have never, in 12 years of using iPhones daily, had a button fail. I have however needed to use DFU/Recovery several times. I will always prefer having actual buttons. The iPhone 7 home button was admittedly pretty good, but having a lock/power button that can’t actually power on the phone? No thanks!
 
“..would eliminate moving parts that can wear out or break over time.”

Lol, I never had a power or volume button wear out from the very 1st iPhone I had to the 14 Pro I have now.

Especially since this is just replacing one moving part with another since it will probably require another taptic engine.
 
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I’ve been around here long enough to remember the leak of the first Magic Trackpad before we knew what it was. Everyone (myself included) was freaking out at the thought of losing the separate mouse button. But it was actually wonderful and the beginning of apple having the best trackpads in the whole industry.

I’ll just wait and see on this one. Apple generally gets haptics right.
 
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Nice to see others also wash their phones with soap. They are filthy and should be cleaned regularly. I’ve tried phone soap, doesn’t feel the same as a washed phone/watch
 
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I’d prefer haptic buttons over current ones because when stuff gets inside them it’s a pain to get them clicky again.
Downside of not being able to force restart has to be figured out somehow
 
Haptic buttons on iPhones could allow for even better water resistance and would eliminate moving parts that can wear out or break over time. However, the standard iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus are still expected to have mechanical buttons.

Seriously? Just put it on ALL of the iPhone 15 models. Apple makes some seriously stupid decisions now.

First, the the screen differences between iPhone 14 models, this, and the Apple Pencil issue with the latest iPads.

Add actual pro features to a pro device to differentiate the devices from the non-pro versions.
 
Buttons are great. Leave them alone. Haptics instead of buttons are a solution to a problem that doesn’t need to exist.
Disagree. Buttons always wears out, especially on iPhones. I feel they use flimsy switch materials or something because they’re always going mushy or the click gets weak. Meanwhile the home button on my decommissioned iPhone 7 is just as tight and clicky as the day I got it
 
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Until I see more proof like an actual picture taken of the components I will keep an open mind on it🤣
 
And wireless chargers
The biggest problem with that is the type of charger that they have. Apple uses a proprietary charger system that not one car manufacturer supports. Why? Because they have to be prepared in case you have an android phone. Even at Cadillac which has marketing data that shows that 97% of Cadillac owners have iPhones, we still don’t get the Apple charging system. And of course the industry standard system is terrible. I am looking at buying a new GM full size SUV. I have settled on the GMC. It’s ungodly expensive at this point in time. But it next to impossible to get all the parts and that makes it so hard to build new vehicles. But as a part of the manufacturing process ,not being able to get all of the parts needed to build it as designed. In my case they can’t supply the wireless charging system. I really don’t care. I have noted that I can add a MagSafe charger in the place where the wireless charger would be and charge using the Apple charger system.
 
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Disagree. Buttons always wears out, especially on iPhones. I feel they use flimsy switch materials or something because they’re always going mushy or the click gets weak. Meanwhile the home button on my decommissioned iPhone 7 is just as tight and clicky as the day I got it
This is the real reason why Apple wants to do this. It will drastically cut down repair costs. The real buttons break. These ones won’t.
 
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Non-Pro models won't have haptic buttons nor SIM tray in the U.S. The space will still be filled by a plastic spacer.

And in reality, I seriously doubt Apple will remove SIM tray globally next year.
Right???? I dont think until they remove sim globally they can go through with haptic buttons just yet… good point idk how they would if they didn’t.
 
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