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Apple Supplier TSMC Delays Production of 4nm Chips at Arizona Factory Due to Skilled Worker Shortage
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that's if you don't melt!
Max Tech has just confirmed it’s not skill shortage but heat problem in Arizona. TSMC factory is too hot to start in 2024.
Sure. If you have worked in semiconductor industry or VLSI.
Can't they just create an app to get the factories built? I mean, isn't there an app for everything?
Villagers in china and India are busting their asses on STEM. Americans are happy with their tik tok videos to go along with liberal arts junk degrees.
If you build it they will come (and offer huge tax incentives)… NOT!
TSMC seems to be gentler in it wording it's PRs. In beginning the flat out said the US worker are lazy and won't work at hard as the Asian workers. That is why TSMC has been bring more and more Asian workers over to the US to try and get the facility finished and getting the yeilds necessary for production.
When Intel canceled its contract with TSMC to make 3nm chips it really hurt TSMC and Apple. TSMC needed that financial commitment from Intel to build the new facilities in AZ. Apple was hurt because their 3nm chip would from that same facility. So Apple went to TSMC and said they would take the Intel contract over so TSMC had the financial backing they needed, but Apple in their deal commited to buy TSMC's whole production of 3nm chips to they would an market advantage. Well Apple and TSMC were all smiles until TSMc started having labor problems in AZ and falling off schedule.
Remember Apple quietly announced that the initial 3nm chip would be high end chips, but would be switching to a lower end version of the 3nm chip after that. This whole 3nm relationship has been a major PIA for both Apple and TSMC.
When Intel canceled its contract with TSMC to make 3nm chips it really hurt TSMC and Apple. TSMC needed that financial commitment from Intel to build the new facilities in AZ. Apple was hurt because their 3nm chip would from that same facility. So Apple went to TSMC and said they would take the Intel contract over so TSMC had the financial backing they needed, but Apple in their deal commited to buy TSMC's whole production of 3nm chips to they would an market advantage. Well Apple and TSMC were all smiles until TSMc started having labor problems in AZ and falling off schedule.
Remember Apple quietly announced that the initial 3nm chip would be high end chips, but would be switching to a lower end version of the 3nm chip after that. This whole 3nm relationship has been a major PIA for both Apple and TSMC.
Is Intel right down the street? When the CEO of TSMC visits the Arizona plant he can walk to Intel and say high to former colleagues he knew when he worked at intel.
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Used to the heat. It's 111° right now. It'll be 115° on Saturday. Fun times melting away! 😚
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Just looked at the jobs and they have lots of jobs open in Arizona. Funny they are not disclosing the salary tho. Hmm!
This is what happens when you buy the capital holding class’s BS about deindustrialization in the late 20th century. When you have geopolitical reasons that aren’t strictly economic for reestablishing domestic industrial capacity, you’ve conceded 20-30 years of skill development in the labor force.
Edit: to be fair, everyone thought we were living in the end of history in the 90s and couldn’t imagine a new peer superpower to the US emerging. Granted that is also kinda stupid but provides context to the prevailing thought.
Edit: to be fair, everyone thought we were living in the end of history in the 90s and couldn’t imagine a new peer superpower to the US emerging. Granted that is also kinda stupid but provides context to the prevailing thought.
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If we the USA want to win in the economic future, we should be paying bright students to go on to advanced education and ensuring the pipeline of bright students is supported with early education, school nutrition, and solid free public schools.
If we don’t do these things we will wake up to the Chinese eating our lunch. Because of the difference in population size we have to graduate a higher percentage of our kids with stem degrees just to maintain parity.
We need to wake up to this reality and this imperative, the TSMC story (and there are many more) only underscores this fact.
If we don’t do these things we will wake up to the Chinese eating our lunch. Because of the difference in population size we have to graduate a higher percentage of our kids with stem degrees just to maintain parity.
We need to wake up to this reality and this imperative, the TSMC story (and there are many more) only underscores this fact.
And you know who would end up covering those extra costs, right?
And Americans want jobs where they can work remotely or jobs with flexibility.
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Working on-site to build a chip factory is not something spoiled by pandemic work from home privileged Americans want.
There are plenty of skilled people in the area.
They just don't want to pay them what the other companies do.
TSMC Prices Per Wafer:
2014, 28nm, $3,000
2016, 10nm, $6,000
2018, 7nm, $10,000
2020, 5nm, $16,000
2022, 3nm, $20,000
With ballooning prices like these, is TSMC really going to cry poor?
Why do you think this is?
The cost per employee hour is much higher in the US, so manufacturers moved to Asia. As such, there are many more experienced workers in Asia with the necessary skills.
The reverse was true a generation ago. The US was the manufacturing capital of the world and then Asia opened up. Suddenly lots of cheap workers were available and the argument was that the US would remain due to the skilled workforce.
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rumors suggest that they are not paying as much as eg Intel in AZ ...
besides Intel there are a few other foundries in the greater Phoenix area so there is competition, and when it comes to skilled labor, guess what? $$ speak a thousand words ...
One big plus of working for TSMC in Arizona rather than Taiwan is that China isn't constantly threatening to invade. At least there's that!
Taiwan is a separate country from the People’s Republic of China, with its own government, economy, culture, and citizenry.
some other factor: Intel is south of Phoenix, in Ocotillo and TSMC is way up north, probably more than 1 hr drive ...
so would you take a job that makes your drive in the heat for 1hr+ (compared to your current job)?
so would you take a job that makes your drive in the heat for 1hr+ (compared to your current job)?