Apple Suppliers Starting to Ship 4" Screens for Next iPhone?

[dethmaShine]

I still don't understand why Apple just don't make 2 phones - One that retains the 3.5" screen and one that is biigest than 4" (like 4.3") so that the difference is more apparant. We can all argue for the next year which is better, but the fact is that some people prefer 3.5" and some want a lot larger phone like the current crop of Androids to accomodate bigger hands, video watching, older eyes, etc.

Neither group is right or wrong. There are clearly two markets here. Why does it have to be one or the other?

Tony

I totally agree with that. To be very honest, I don't see Apple making a 4.3" or a 4.65" screen iPhone. 4" is a great size or even 3.9" is good enough for a smartphone. I actually don't have any problems with a 3.5" phone but its just that, more screen estate would be a bit better. That's just my opinion.

 

[iEvolution]

How about the fact that it would necessarily have to mean shorter battery life, and could very likely make the device physically larger.

I think the picture speaks for itself, a 4" screen could still potentially fit on the device without any dimension changes.

I am flabbergasted that 31% don't want a larger screen. .5 inches is not going to make the iPhone turn into a Zune 30.

As for the battery, Apple does a pretty fair job at keeping the battery upgraded enough to keep up with the hardware's power demand. Every year companies like Apple finds ways to cut the power usage down.

Apple is THEE tech master at making items small. Look at the nano, heck look at the tiny 3rd gen shuffle that looks like a stick of gum that can hold 1,000 songs with ~12hrs of playback.

 

[sinsin07]

Somewhere in the world a couple of million Cabbage Patch dolls have escaped. (The 31%)

 

[DroidRules]

To all who voted for a 4" Screen: "Remember Steve." He won't be happy.
Although you still will have a choice as there will be a device with a 3.5" screen

Yeah, he's dead.....Time to move on to a 4" screen. Not a fan of the 4.5's or what ever is close to that but I think it's time to get a little bigger. I don't mind if the phone gets slightly bigger either. Now I don't want crazy big like the S2 or anything but I feel the 3.5" screen as been great but time to move on up.... to the east side, to a delux apartment in the sky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcqToQzzGY&feature=related

 

[AlterEg0]

i tihnk a 4 inch screen will be gladly accepted. i think it would be a perfect screen size!

So once again, other manufacturers lead the way and Apple follows.... slowly.. real slowly.

 

[nraudigy2]

I would upgrade right away if they had 4" or bigger. Texts are too small to read on 3.5". Some of the ipad-only apps would move to this new iphone with bigger screen.

 

[ChrisTX]

So once again, other manufacturers lead the way and Apple follows.... slowly.. real slowly.

That's why every smartphone on the planet now looks like an iPhone. Everyone was too busy chasing RIM, and the Blackberry before Apple changed the mobile industry forever!

 

[sinsin07]

Sweet! I can't wait for the iPhone 501. Clad in denim it stands up to the washing machine with a button fly home button.

This thread has been a riot.

Iphone 501. Brilliant! LMAO

A larger iPhone would be such a huge and unusual mistake for Apple if it is the only model. It is already marginally too big.

Says you. Grow bigger hands.

When I pick up the larger Android phones I am always glad the iPhone is not that large. IMO, easy one handed operation is absolutely essential for a phone. There are just too many times I have something else in my other hand. It's a phone, not a tablet. I use it on the move. When you need a bigger screen and can sit down and use two hands, get out your iPad. Why would they make a phone that is the size of small tablet? It's a whole different story for somebody like Samsung or HTC who can make 16 different models, but Apple has a one model sales plan. The threat of making the iPhone larger than it is, is the best reason to go ahead and buy the 4S now before they screw it up. I've bought each model of the iPhone as they came out, but if they make it bigger, I'll be using the 4S until it dies. Playing keep up with the Droids is sort of like the local millionaires trying to keep up with the people living in the trailer park.

What Andorid phones are you comparing to?

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So once again, other manufacturers lead the way and Apple follows.... slowly.. real slowly.

What goes does it mean to lead when Apple still takes home more than half the mobile profits? Seems like other manufacturers should lead less and develop more, like in ecosystem.

 

[iEvolution]

So once again, other manufacturers lead the way and Apple follows.... slowly.. real slowly.

Think you got it backwards there bub. They may not be the first to introduce a larger screen but they have a lot of companies that are trying to follow them rather than break out with their own concepts, the tablet market is a GREAT example of Apple leadership.

Apple may have not invented some of these concepts (such as the tablet) but they take these concepts, make them extremely easy to use, market it well and make the products fly off the shelf.

Apple is a tech leader right now or rather the tech leader right now whether anyone likes it or not. Even I can acknowledge that even though I'm not the biggest fan of the company as they have questionable ethics.

The one thing I really love about Apple is the quality materials they use in their products, its not cheap 15 times over recycled plastic that feels like it'll be crushed by gripping it.

 

[sinsin07]

Even I can acknowledge that even though I'm not the biggest fan of the company as they have questionable ethics.

If you dig deep, most companies have questionable ethics.

 

[MattInOz]

How about the fact that it would necessarily have to mean shorter battery life, and could very likely make the device physically larger.

Maybe given the Tech on market today. Remember Apple has a mountain of cash that can magically make Tech that is 12months off and get it to appear in 6months for them(bonus it might stop others getting their hands on it for another 12months to boot).

So as we are talking theoretical/rumour about a product due mid next year here I dispute both of those facts.

If Apple are working with Sharp to build a new screen for them, say one that is similar to to pixelQi screens, but has good visual quality with the backlight off then that would let them delete the home button, fill the screen into that space and not drain the battery as much. Plus the screen readablity in sun light could be vastly better.

 

[motulist]

As for the battery, Apple does a pretty fair job at keeping the battery upgraded enough to keep up with the hardware's power demand. Every year companies like Apple finds ways to cut the power usage down.

Regardless, more screen space by definition automatically means you're using more power than a smaller screen would use. There are plenty of people who would choose an extra few hours of battery life instead of an extra half inch of screen real estate, and there are many people who would make the opposite choice, and I think there's a much MUCH larger amount of people who don't care much either way.

 

[rquick]

Too many comments. Nobody gets to choose the size of their hands. I have average hands that are larger than most women, but smaller than some men. A larger phone would be difficult to handle one-handed, which is a problem for me and probably for many women. I am comparing to the "larger" Android phones. 4" and up. I would prefer to see them keep the same 3.5" screen and make the entire device smaller like the iPod Touch. That is the perfect case to me. I'm not trying to use it as a reader, its a phone. If they make one bigger, I hope they have two models.

 

[sinsin07]

Regardless, more screen space by definition automatically means you're using more power than a smaller screen would use. There are plenty of people who would choose an extra few hours of battery life instead of an extra half inch of screen real estate, and there are many people who would make the opposite choice, and I think there's a much MUCH larger amount of people who don't care much either way.

Bigger screen, bigger battery.

 

[pic620]

The way I see it iphone 4S/iphone 5 will not be as "cheap" as Android and people will continue to buy Android especially if Android is "good enough".
Do you hear yourself man? Stop and listen. So basically if Android continues to do what they are doing Apple is screwed. What is Apple's game plan to win back Android customers? A 3.5 inch display in the iphone 5 will be a disaster. Those big fat cheap Android phones are winning and I have one of them.

Yeah. You're right. Apple is totally screwed. What with it owning 2/3 of the mobile phone industry's profit. Larger than every other company combined. Doomed.

 

[sinsin07]

Too many comments. Nobody gets to choose the size of their hands. I have average hands that are larger than most women, but smaller than some men. A larger phone would be difficult to handle one-handed, which is a problem for me and probably for many women. I am comparing to the "larger" Android phones. 4" and up. I would prefer to see them keep the same 3.5" screen and make the entire device smaller like the iPod Touch. That is the perfect case to me. I'm not trying to use it as a reader, its a phone. If they make one bigger, I hope they have two models.

You're issue is with dexterity, not phone size. One of my daughters is 5", tiny hands and has no problem using a 4 inch phone with one hand.

 

[pic620]

Wow. You know the mind of Apple. Amazing.

I agree, I am amazing. But for this, I can't take credit. Knowing the mind of Apple is easy, if you've used a majority of the company's products the past few years, or have ever listened to Steve Jobs speak. Any 12 year old could understand the company's priorities.

 

[sinsin07]

I agree, I am amazing. But for this, I can't take credit. Knowing the mind of Apple is easy, if you've used a majority of the company's products the past few years, or have ever listened to Steve Jobs speak. Any 12 year old could understand the company's priorities.

You mean like their one time stance on multitasking? Or like the original intention was to use webapps? MMS, Cut and Paste, no video on iPods. Is that what you are refering too?

If you had a clue you wouldn't be posting here, you'd be too rich on your insight into Apple stock and other investments to give crap about a 4 inch screen.

 

[pic620]

Regardless, more screen space by definition automatically means you're using more power than a smaller screen would use. There are plenty of people who would choose an extra few hours of battery life instead of an extra half inch of screen real estate, and there are many people who would make the opposite choice, and I think there's a much MUCH larger amount of people who don't care much either way.

+ Siri use, + the batter hit iPhone 4S took, + a bigger screen. No Thankyou. 3.5" is fine. How am I supposed to text, drive, AND look for cops with a 4" phone? Nonsense. Bet it doesn't even come to fruition - at least not unless they figure out a way to prevent fragmenting, battery loss, size increase, etc.

 

[cdmoore74]

Yeah. You're right. Apple is totally screwed. What with it owning 2/3 of the mobile phone industry's profit. Larger than every other company combined. Doomed.

So please tell me how Apple is going to win me back or are you going to throw more useless profit figures at me? Apple's profits numbers are useless if I don't own a iphone or it's stocks. The one figure you should be looking at is 43% Android and 28% Apple.
Here's my Apple fanboy challenge; how do you win back Android users? Does Apple even care about me? Simple right?

 

[D.T.]

+ Siri use, + the batter hit iPhone 4S took, + a bigger screen. No Thankyou. 3.5" is fine. How am I supposed to text, drive, AND look for cops with a 4" phone?

Moving lots of product?

 

[pic620]

You mean like their one time stance on multitasking? Or like the original intention was to use webapps? MMS, Cut and Paste, no video on iPods. Is that what you are refering too?

If you had a clue you wouldn't be posting here, you'd be too rich on your insight into Apple stock and other investments to give crap about a 4 inch screen.

Come talk to me in a year bud.

 

[sinsin07]

So please tell me how Apple is going to win me back or are you going to throw more useless profit figures at me? Apple's profits numbers are useless if I don't own a iphone or it's stocks. The one figure you should be looking at is 43% Android and 28% Apple.
Here's my Apple fanboy challenge; how do you win back Android users? Does Apple even care about me? Simple right?

It's true, those figures don't mean much if you don't own Apple stock. Your comment was Android is winning. At the end of the day, its money that decides the winner. Apple is winning in the money department, and since they are in the business to make money, that is the only number that matters, not how many handsets Android has.

Even if they were not winning in the mobile market dollar wise, for Apple it would still not make a difference if they were still making a substantial profit, like with their Mac line.

 

[pic620]

So please tell me how Apple is going to win me back or are you going to throw more useless profit figures at me? Apple's profits numbers are useless if I don't own a iphone or it's stocks. The one figure you should be looking at is 43% Android and 28% Apple.
Here's my Apple fanboy challenge; how do you win back Android users? Does Apple even care about me? Simple right?

That's what a company is supposed to do. Make profit. 43% Android users. That's wonderful. Do you think BMW is trying to compete with the Hona Civic because there are more of them on the road? No. They don't care about the Honda Civic. People who want a Honda Civic aren't their market. Their market is people who are willing to pay a premium for a product they recognize as quality. And a large part of that market is the recognition of that quality. As far as what companies measure, and set out to do - money, and making money - Apple is the most successful phone manufacturer in the world. Why would they change their product to try and emulate phones that are less successful?

 

[sinsin07]

The only way this increase becomes acceptable is if Apple finds a way to do it without fragmentation. Apple is different than other companies - in that it realizes that insane and unused processing power and "Me Want Bigger" mind sets are not important. What's important is the integrity and simplicity of operating system (& hardware) use, and the end-user experience. If "Me Want Bigger" or "Me Want Higher Numbers On Spec Paper" - than go use Android. That's what they generally care about.

The end-user experience will be compromised if a next gen new phone owner has iCloud retore all their old apps to their new phone, and they're all pixelated and stretchy. The end-user experience will be compromised if an iPhone 4S owner, who bought his device just a year ago, tries to download a new iPhone app and finds that this new iPhone app isn't supported on their device' even though it's for - you guessed it! - the iPhone.

Come talk to me in a year bud.

I am honestly hopping you are rich enough based on your "insight" not to be posting here in a year.