Of course, you have a dac and a preamp.
I was thinking of the wired scenario, the wireless scenario is... just too weird for me.
This.
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Apple Surveying MacBook Pro Users About Headphone Jack and Other Ports
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Of course, you have a dac and a preamp.
I was thinking of the wired scenario, the wireless scenario is... just too weird for me.
This.
They don't offer any type of headphones on current models, just a headphone port.
They already have MacBooks with USB-C that support USB-C audio so it's already happened on other models.
If MBP drops headphone jack I guarantee it will support USB-C audio.
Talk about taking things out of context. What I said was they don't offer any kind of headphones on the Mac range. No macs come with headphones.
If anything you're disagreeing with the other guy, he's saying it doesn't make sense to sell both types of headphones, but that's exactly what they already do.
Windows 10 is there for all these people
Ports, upgradable SSD, 4K screens, more memory....But it's more than just a "yanked cable". I have had the cable yanked on a regular laptop and the port was broken on the motherboard, repairing it was almos as expensive as buying a new laptop. I also had my dog run through the MagSafe cable which luckily for me snapped and didn't pull the entire thing to the floor.
Wireless charging would be great, I agree with that, but that would also mean that you have to carry a charging mat with you, which to me seems contradicting to the whole "portable computer" thing.
I am not saying your concerns aren't valid, but how would MagSafe even work with a USB-C cable?
Seems like if Apple wants to go all-in with USB-C on their laptops, the new MacBooks might sport an array of USB-C ports and nothing else. You would either invest in a new line of USB-C peripherals and cables, or rely on docks and / or adaptors to maintain backwards compatibility with your existing devices.
And MagSafe would be a casualty because the manner in which it works simply won't be possible with the current design of USB-C.
Honestly, I just don't know. Maybe they could change all the ports to be shallow and magnetic (they can call it usb-d) or just the one and call it MagSafe3, but other than that there's no way but to keep the existing one
Depends on how many millions
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They should have replaced the lighting port on the phone with usb-c then there wouldn't have been so many complaints on here
yeah because
Most pros use proper audio interfaces with decent DACs and amplifiers, connected via 6.5mm ports to their headphones.
Consumers otoh mostly use 3.5mm... go figure
Haha yeah because "Pros" use 3.5mm headphone ports? LOL
Most pros use proper audio interfaces with decent DACs and amplifiers, connected via 6.5mm ports to their headphones.
Consumers otoh mostly use 3.5mm... go figure
Mine isn't retina, but it's a top notch 2011 model and I use the port daily
I use my DragonFly on my rMBP it sounds way better than the regular headphone port - plugins into the USB port
My point was more that they're not going to be making a change in their highest earning product, risking it making them fewer billions, just to make a few million from licensing lightning.
Fun fact: audio production is not the only profession in the world. Plenty of professionals use MacBook Pros for development work and might want to listen to music while they do it or chat to a co-worker.
Windows 10 is there for all these people
Instant Microsoft and NSA surveillance....
Notice there's no way on any Windows product now to disable sending data back to Microsoft. They claim it's required for "Windows to work." Yeah, sure it is. Siri may require sending data in Sierra, but as far as I know, Apple doesn't collect any data unless you volunteer it (i.e. I've never read anywhere that it's leaking data over the Network like Windows 10 does in spades which caught the attention of many people who clearly noticed it sending data like a keystroke malware program. But that's not a bug, it's a FEATURE! And you AGREED TO IT when you decided to use Windows 10 (read the license agreement; if you don't like it, don't use it they tell you).
One would think Linux would be more popular as a result. Oh wait. Android IS Linux but it's tainted Linux (Google spies on EVERYTHING you do with any service they offer).
Open Source Linux programs aren't popular at all. I guess people enjoy being spied on. At least Apple has been fighting much of this government surveillance nonsense (and yes in the USA it's nonsense as the Constitution protects against unreasonable search and seizure and I'd call monitoring every email, text, keystroke and phone conversation pretty fracking unreasonable and using terrorism as an excuse doesn't hold water. They weren't this invasive during WWII even If the government here wants to to ditch the 4th Amendment, just TRY and pass a change to the Constitution and see where it gets those that vote for it).
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Let's forget about the jack for a second. This feels like a preliminary survey about the MBP in the PLANNING PHASE. Why else would they care if they've already manufactured the damn thing and plan on releasing it in October '16 (rumor). Does this mean we won't see a MBP in October?
I knew this was coming when they went with the last century style plug in port on the stupid MacBook. The MagSafe port is one of the best innovations on a laptop and I'll burst blood vessels when they courageously remove it. I already hate the idiot way they minimised the space between the ports on the previous MacBook Pro series, so that you could barely get a regular USB jack in each port, never mind a memory key or dongle and two other things. The 17" doesn't even have the SD slot and it won't even run for an hour on a battery that reports as 92% of new, so who needs ports? Probably pros. Never mind that the audio port (now one for in and out) does optical as well, so you don't need to pull your hair out because of random latency issues or the inevitable failure of either audio or video to come out the display port, or AirPlay at the same time. I might have to buy one of the last gen retinas like I did last time when they took away my beloved 17", while they're still available and now, while the drives are also still upgradable. Who wants to pay premium prices for a bunch of new cables or dongles, especially seeing you won't see any further speed improvements with the affordable spinning drives anyway? I can barely afford the recent past, never mind the future.
Windows 10 is there for all these people
Question: why have you, all of a sudden, started talking about software?
We were talking about hardware.
But yes, Windows 10 is a viable alternative to macOS is you don't want to deal with Apple's increasingly ridiculous choices.
As are all the dozen other operating systems out there, from Be/Haiku to FreeBSD.
Well, if it will make the mac book pro waterproof, then Im fine with it, as long that there is very tiny adapter. If it does
not make it waterproof then I don't see the point of removing it.
not make it waterproof then I don't see the point of removing it.
Unfortunately, Apple's unfortunate hardware choices lately are making me look at other hardware again. I really prefer iOS to Android, but, for $250, I can get a similar alternative to the iPhones 6S/7 that allows me to easily swap battery, SIM, and memory cards.
Likewise, Apple has mostly been in retreat, hardware-wise, since the 2008/2009 unibody MBPs. I thank Steve Jobs every day (well, OK, I don't really, but, ...) for retina displays on iPhones and MBPs. But, Apple is getting so obsessed with aesthetics that they have completely lost track of the actual work that people do with smart phones and laptops.
Right now, I'm thinking hard about portable workstation alternatives.
Yes, but. I use Linux every day -- on servers. (FreeBSD is arguably a superior OS in some ways.) To be fun to use on a portable Linux workstation, though, it sure would be nice if Nvidia and AMD would provide full-featured debugged Linux drivers for their GPUs. Let alone FreeBSD. The GPU situation is a real impediment.
The latest Macbook - now smaller than every. If you need a screen, keyboard, processor etc these are all now available as a revolutionary new iDock. All of these functions can be added using only the USB port!
I believe Apple should remove the headphone jack. I hope it's not on the next MacBookPro because I need one and would like to see this old technology gone.
The latest Macbook - now smaller than every. If you need a screen, keyboard, processor etc these are all now available as a revolutionary new iDock. All of these functions can be added using only the USB port!
I wouldn't hate this.
Any actual reasons you'd like to see it "gone" rather than just because it's "old" ???
Did you know that the same jack contains an optical fiber digital jack (micro-Toslink) as well that you can use for digital transfers, Dolby 5.1/7.1 audio and DTS? It's probably not as "old" as you think not to mention almost every headphone on the planet uses that style jack and there's literally NOTHING wrong with it (full range analog, which all signals have to be at some point before they are amplified and played over a headphone or speaker driver).
In other words, just wanting to see something gone because you feel its "old" is the most ridiculous possible reason to get rid of something. There is NOTHING "better" out there for a headphone (Lightning raises the costs of headphones and requires things you only need ONE of (DAC and headphone amp) in every single headphone that would support it (Bluetooth would require a Bluetooth receiver as well and batteries, which need either recharged or replaced on top of your computer or phone. In other words, there is no good reason for Apple to remove these jacks. Even one of the co-founders of Apple (Steve Wozniak) was against removing it from the iPhone. This guy practically invented the modern PC in the form of the Apple computer back in 1976. I wonder why he wants to keep the jack and you don't.
I use my headphone jack often enough. I don't want to be restricted to yet another device that requires charging. The same goes for the iphone7 - will not purchase that until the headphone jack returns on iPhone8 or I move off this ecosystem...
Way too many devices are requiring charging, unique docks/cables - it's nuts... Standardize on something and stop messing with consumers.
Way too many devices are requiring charging, unique docks/cables - it's nuts... Standardize on something and stop messing with consumers.