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What?

Do we really need another OS and UI to learn to use?

This is Apple, you probably won't mind a new OS. Plus I don't think OS X or iPhone OS would be good on the Tablet, so there's no other solution. It will probably make sense and be as intuitive as all the other Apples OSes, so I don't think this will be a problem. In such a modern world, having to learn a new OS is like getting used to the fact that my favorite toothpaste changed its logo again.
 
I could care less about Apple's app approval process, if they also allowed the developers to directly distribute the apps to the customers.

The main problem with the current app approval process is that it leads to self-cencorship.

Today it was reported that Apple rejected a couple of German apps of several newspapers and magazines ("BILD" and "Stern" for example) because the news articles(!) that were featured in it violated Apple's app rules. The companies are now doing self-censorship and cut out articles and pictures (like pinup girls) that might(!) violate Apple's terms.

That's clearly an attack against freedom of speech. If the articles do not violate any law in the country where they get published they should be allowed to get published in an app too.
 
Waiting.

Could work on this "new" OS be causing the delay in the release of any new iPhone OS updates? Like when they redirected efforts to get the first iPhone out on time (if memory serves correctly). Though I'm curious about the possibility of this product, I'm not planning to get an Apple tablet. But I would like to see new updates to the iPhone OS. New features to push the capabilities of the device.
 
This doesn't really tell me anything I didn't already assume. I have been assuming that this will have the overall look of the iPhone but power closer to the Macs.

I also suspect, if the information is actually based on someone who is in the know and not speaking out of their arse, that there would be something special about it to differentiate it more from the iPhone. Perhaps a 3D interface?

Man...it is only the first year...but I miss MacWorld.
 
My personal expectation is that the Apple tablet will reduce the number of keyboard keys to about 8 and the user will chord them to input all the ASCII character sets. If 4 keys are mounted under each side of the slate, one could quickly type anything without doing any motion other then lifting and lowering one's fingers while holding the tablet.

This could be what's behind the "steep learning curve" comment reported earlier.

So we are all going to learn to type Braille?
Get the Fingerworks team to use the multitouch sensor to understand single handed sign language so we all learn to sign as well.

Now that would be a massive gain for Accessiblity in general life.
 
Niether do I! It just something for whinners to pick at.

I'm not quite sure where this "control freak" thing comes from. OS X is more open and better documented than Windows. Apple doesn't make a serious effort to discourage people from jailbreaking their mobile devices and doing whatever they want to with them. I really, honestly don't understand it.

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Well stated !

On top of all that Apple system gives them a reasonable ability to offer up parental controls. If you are the owner of the device though it is no problem at all.

Looking at it from the standpoint of a developer I think you would be hard pressed to find a system that is as open and advanced as Apples. The fact is they bend over backwards to support developers. On the flip side users are supported well too.

What I would like to see is the people making these statements defend them. It is pretty obvious that app store is pretty open. How else do you explain an overflowing inventory and all the success stories. I suspect much of the whinning comes from the failures in society, those that strike out at people and organizations that make something of themselves.


Dave
 
But fine, name me another example of any OS platform (mobile, desktop, server, anything).. where developers have to wait for a single company to "approve" their application for being sold or given away to the customers.

While it may seem annoyance now, wait until other mobile platforms start dealing with worms, viruses, and the like, while Apple devices stay whistle clean.

I sure don't want my phone making any calls I don't know about and shareing any information I never intended.

Additionally, Apple is currently improving the approval process and adding more staff in that area, so the turn-around and process should become even less of an issue in the near future.
 
?! I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not...

How is the AppStore open? Apple decide what Applications can be published
How is the iPhone an open platform? Apple decide what applications users can / cannot install

If the AppStore / iPhone / Touch was an open as OSX, I don't think people would have a problem.

There is a vast difference between the 'openness' of OSX and iPhone. OSX being very open with very little restrictions of what type of applications can be developed, installed and obtained from, and iPhone on the other side of the spectrum with Apple deciding almost everything.

++++++++++

Well stated !

On top of all that Apple system gives them a reasonable ability to offer up parental controls. If you are the owner of the device though it is no problem at all.

Looking at it from the standpoint of a developer I think you would be hard pressed to find a system that is as open and advanced as Apples. The fact is they bend over backwards to support developers. On the flip side users are supported well too.

What I would like to see is the people making these statements defend them. It is pretty obvious that app store is pretty open. How else do you explain an overflowing inventory and all the success stories. I suspect much of the whinning comes from the failures in society, those that strike out at people and organizations that make something of themselves.


Dave
 
it will be a sad day for Macrumors when the old staple, standby rumor is no longer a rumor ;)
 
So - does this mean that the hundreds of apps users have paid hundreds of dollars for are non-transferable and out the window? So much for upgrading.

It doesn't mean anything of the sort. Apple has requested that some developers prepare their apps for a "full screen" demonstration later this month. Since that is true, it appears that iPhone apps will run on the new device, but not take full use of the screen without this one modification.

This said, the current crop of apps may also not take full advantage of any differences in IU on the new device.

Don't be such a negative Nabob of Negativity. :)
 
B.S. So deep I need waders.

The main problem with the current app approval process is that it leads to self-cencorship.
So a little self control is a bad thing. Or are you one of those people into snuff films and kiddie porn?
Today it was reported that Apple rejected a couple of German apps of several newspapers and magazines ("BILD" and "Stern" for example) because the news articles(!) that were featured in it violated Apple's app rules. The companies are now doing self-censorship and cut out articles and pictures (like pinup girls) that might(!) violate Apple's terms.
What do you expect Apple to do, change their terms for every Tom, Dick & Harry that comes around? It truly amazes me that people expect Apple to change it's terms to reflect their business goals. How would that ever be workable? Are you expecting each developer to have it's own terms with Apple?
That's clearly an attack against freedom of speech.
Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.
If the articles do not violate any law in the country where they get published they should be allowed to get published in an app too.

Considering Apple is a world wide company that is non sense.

Apple is a reseller here just like the corner store and as such reflects the collective ethics of the company. Consider those corner stores in a little more detail. It is not uncommon to find one selling magazines, porn included, and the store across the street rejecting porn completely. Using your logic the store rejecting the porn should be forced to sell the stuff.

So I have to ask which is worst, self censorship, or being forced to violate your personal values? The reality here is that Apple doesn't want to appear to be supporting baser parts of societ. It is their right to do so and frankly makes a lot of sense considering the markets they sell into.

If this bothers you that much just wait for Microsoft to come out with their tablet. They are so desparate right now they might have to ship with some vintage porn to hold onto pervert market.



Dave
 
I hope so. But I only see Apple allowing Adobe to release Flash for the Tablet if it is hardware accelerated.

Hardware acceleration doesn't help with Flash / isn't needed for Flash. The problem with Flash on MacOS X is that it will draw as many frames per second as the CPU or CPUs can manage, wasting as much CPU and battery as possible to redraw an animation that doesn't even change. Hardware acceleration would only make Flash waste more resources quicker.
 
Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.

With arguments like the ones below... I have to ask... are you f*** serious?

So a little self control is a bad thing. Or are you one of those people into snuff films and kiddie porn?

What do you expect Apple to do, change their terms for every Tom, Dick & Harry that comes around? It truly amazes me that people expect Apple to change it's terms to reflect their business goals. How would that ever be workable? Are you expecting each developer to have it's own terms with Apple?

So I have to ask which is worst, self censorship, or being forced to violate your personal values? The reality here is that Apple doesn't want to appear to be supporting baser parts of societ. It is their right to do so and frankly makes a lot of sense considering the markets they sell into.

If this bothers you that much just wait for Microsoft to come out with their tablet. They are so desparate right now they might have to ship with some vintage porn to hold onto pervert market.
 
What?

Do we really need another OS and UI to learn to use?

I don't believe the iPhone OS would be ideal for such a device. The Mac OSX would be too bloated. It is actually one core OS. The GUI of course is the differentiator.
 
The level of the new CES tablets is very pathetic. REALLY pathetic.

I thought they'd want to kick Jobs' ass.

I for one don't want Apple to get comfortable. Palm Pre Plus, Nexus etc delivering really good things lately.

Apple will never get comfortable, regardless of competition or lack thereof.
 
My personal expectation is that the Apple tablet will reduce the number of keyboard keys to about 8 and the user will chord them to input all the ASCII character sets. If 4 keys are mounted under each side of the slate, one could quickly type anything without doing any motion other then lifting and lowering one's fingers while holding the tablet.

Besides being easier to accommodate on smaller form factor devices, it finally moves the inputting experience from one required for early typewriter mechanical design into the electronic mobile world of the 21st century.

This could be what's behind the "steep learning curve" comment reported earlier.

yea that would be a good April Fool's joke

turn everybody into a court reporter :rolleyes:
 
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