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This rumor is just more BS. We have been hearing that Apple has bought out the supply of all 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. etc screens for MONTHS now. Every week more rumors bout apple buying up more screens of various sizes, or flash chips, or what have you. If we take all the rumors of the last 6 months the new "tablet" must come in about 5 different sizes and dozens of different shapes.

Maybe it's part of the big plan :rolleyes:
Buying all the display panels so they will be the only ones capable of bringing mobile devices to the market for some time. :eek: HP, DELL, Acer, Asus, … and many others would loose their tablet/notebook market share to :apple:
 
Everyone is rushing for 10.1" displays.

Exactly. To think that it's only Apple that's snapping them up in large quantities is preposterous.


Also, remember when the Zune HD got an OLED screen?

Uh, no. But that's mostly because I couldn't give two figs about the Zune. I also would have a hard time believing that Microsoft created a shortage of OLED displays because of their use in the Zune.
 
Uh, no. But that's mostly because I couldn't give two figs about the Zune. I also would have a hard time believing that Microsoft created a shortage of OLED displays because of their use in the Zune.
The great debate over the display quality and life. More so since it wasn't an Apple product. People tend to forget these things...
 
Two huge markets for this device I can tell you are doctors and students.

I'm a medical student, meaning this is a day 1 buy for me. Medical textbooks weigh about 5kg each and the entire medical world has been waiting for a decent device for reading patient records for the past 10 years.

This is going to be a cool device, so more power to you for being a day 1 buyer; but I wouldn't do it for textbooks and medical records. First you need digital textbooks, then you need good medical software written,then you need a standard so the different software can talk to each other, then you need hospital administrators to jump on board.... In other words, you'll be at least a resident before any of this takes place.
 
This is going to be a cool device, so more power to you for being a day 1 buyer; but I wouldn't do it for textbooks and medical records. First you need digital textbooks, then you need good medical software written,then you need a standard so the different software can talk to each other, then you need hospital administrators to jump on board.... In other words, you'll be at least a resident before any of this takes place.

* Assuming the OS will not be a version derived from OS X for desktops. If it is than there is no reason Acrobat and others won't take a stab at patching their proggies to be "islate" compatible. And there are plenty o' medical apps who would love to yell "firsties!" at new compatability.

I too will be a 0-day buyer IF it allows me to type on the go. That's the only reason I bring my Macbook Pro to class everyday and i'd love to leave it @ home.

Now to what I was going to say:

So is this the technology equivalent to 'buying out the bar?'
 
This is going to be a cool device, so more power to you for being a day 1 buyer; but I wouldn't do it for textbooks and medical records. First you need digital textbooks, then you need good medical software written,then you need a standard so the different software can talk to each other, then you need hospital administrators to jump on board.... In other words, you'll be at least a resident before any of this takes place.

Apple have apparently already been talking to textbook publishers about digital copies for a store, it makes sense, students would be a major, if not THE major drive for adoption of the tablet if Apple provided lots of textbooks via. the store.
 
I love how many on this forum dogged the Zune HD and pretty much anything that competed with an Apple product that also contained an OLED screen because of the disadvantages in sunlight or whatever. Now, an Apple product with an OLED screen (most likely from similar vendors of the competitor products) will be "cool" and "sweet" and "premium". I guess all deficiencies with OLED tech have either disappeared suddenly, or Apple fixed it for the whole industry.


The Apple logo acts as a sunblock for some people, clearly. If there is no way to fix the washout there is no way I will be buying this
 
Whatever happens, I am leaning towards waiting for the 1st revision. Buying any new product like this seems like a very high risk.

i wanna have 1st generation, to have it in aluminum and not in the later coming plastic look. :rolleyes:
 
Whatever happens, I am leaning towards waiting for the 1st revision. Buying any new product like this seems like a very high risk.

Like everyone said about the original iPhone? I bought mine on launch day and the thing is STILL going as strong as the day I got it. Battery is even still lasting a long time (better than my 3GS).

The bottom line is this: if you buy the 1st gen. you will get everything that was advertised that it would have and it will work just as described. Will new features come out on the 1st revision and will it be better? Yes. But you using that logic you could be waiting forever for the 'next' better version to be released.

If there's some horrible widespread flaw with the thing Apple will have to deal with that. I guess I don't see the very high risk in the situation.
 
What product out there uses a 10 inch OLED screen anyways? I doubt there is much demand to begin with. Dont know how there is a shortage.:rolleyes:
 
So it's not possible that the shortage of 10" LCD screens comes from the fact that Asus, Acer, Compaq, Dell, Gateway, HP, Lonovo, Nokia, Samsung, and Toshiba all make 10" Netbooks?

Not to mention that HP just announced/started-making a 10" tablet (two, actually -- one with Windows, one with Android) ... and a 10" 'smartbook' (which is semi-redundant to you mentioning netbooks). Plus EnTourage just started to ramp up for production next month (they use a 10" LCD for one of their two screens).

There were already a ton of 10" LCD's on the market, and now we're going to see even more. So, yeah, it could have NOTHING to do with Apple.
 
Not to mention that HP just announced/started-making a 10" tablet (two, actually -- one with Windows, one with Android) ... and a 10" 'smartbook' (which is semi-redundant to you mentioning netbooks). Plus EnTourage just started to ramp up for production next month (they use a 10" LCD for one of their two screens).

There were already a ton of 10" LCD's on the market, and now we're going to see even more. So, yeah, it could have NOTHING to do with Apple.
That's far too many products in slightly different form factors.
 
They better be good screens and not like the crappy TN panels they used in the original Aluminium Macbook. Hopefully they will use a similar panel to the Asus Seashell netbook.
 
I've never seen a Zune much less used one but:

I love how many on this forum dogged the Zune HD and pretty much anything that competed with an Apple product that also contained an OLED screen because of the disadvantages in sunlight or whatever.
I'm not sure what the issue you are referring to is. If it is a poor screen implementation on Zune that shouldn't be used to damn all OLEDs. Just like the majority of LCD devices that wash out in sunlight should not be used as an example to damn all LCDs.
Now, an Apple product with an OLED screen (most likely from similar vendors of the competitor products) will be "cool" and "sweet" and "premium".
Have you actually seen an OLED screen? They are cool, especially the latest technology. Will Apple implement OLED? I don't know but there are certainly advantages to such screens. How a specific screen looks in Sunlight won't be known until the final implementation is seen.
I guess all deficiencies with OLED tech have either disappeared suddenly, or Apple fixed it for the whole industry.

Deficencies? Do you even know what the drawbacks are with OLED screens? As to Zune, the little I know about that is that they choose a low resolution screen and poorly implemented it. In any event Apple will have fixed nothing because there are dozens of companies working on OLED technology. All of these companies want to be able to deliver a screen that meets Apples needs. There is a well full of OLED techs inculding active and passive screens, diffrent organics and all sorts of drIve circuitry. All of these deliver impressive screens visually some impressively in bright light.

In other words it makes no sense to whine before the product is delivered. Frankly you can't know before hand how it will perform.

Dave
 
Is OS X touch compatible?

Whether it's touch vs pen compatible is a matter of the exact screen, not the software. And we know that OS X works with pen based tablets (modbook). So, I would say "yes". Not the same type of "touch" UI you have with an iPhone OS X, but still Mac OS X with screen based pointing.
 
I'm not sure what the issue you are referring to is. If it is a poor screen implementation on Zune that shouldn't be used to damn all OLEDs. Just like the majority of LCD devices that wash out in sunlight should not be used as an example to damn all LCDs.

Have you actually seen an OLED screen? They are cool, especially the latest technology. Will Apple implement OLED? I don't know but there are certainly advantages to such screens. How a specific screen looks in Sunlight won't be known until the final implementation is seen.


Deficencies? Do you even know what the drawbacks are with OLED screens? As to Zune, the little I know about that is that they choose a low resolution screen and poorly implemented it. In any event Apple will have fixed nothing because there are dozens of companies working on OLED technology. All of these companies want to be able to deliver a screen that meets Apples needs. There is a well full of OLED techs inculding active and passive screens, diffrent organics and all sorts of drIve circuitry. All of these deliver impressive screens visually some impressively in bright light.

In other words it makes no sense to whine before the product is delivered. Frankly you can't know before hand how it will perform.

Dave
Can you elaborate? It sounds like you're using software as the solution to the hardware.
 
Like everyone said about the original iPhone? I bought mine on launch day and the thing is STILL going as strong as the day I got it. Battery is even still lasting a long time (better than my 3GS).

The bottom line is this: if you buy the 1st gen. you will get everything that was advertised that it would have and it will work just as described. Will new features come out on the 1st revision and will it be better? Yes. But you using that logic you could be waiting forever for the 'next' better version to be released.

If there's some horrible widespread flaw with the thing Apple will have to deal with that. I guess I don't see the very high risk in the situation.

The highest risk here is the device being totally useless. So far users rejected the tablets except for very sopecific applications. It is not clear whether this tablet will be any different (aluminum or not)
 
That's far too many products in slightly different form factors.

on the one hand, yes, it's a saturated market.

on the other hand, in my uses of various mid-range devices (5" > screen size > 12"), 10" seems to be a sweet spot. For example, for netbook/smartbook/laptop format, it's the minimum size to allow a keyboard with full size keys for comfortable touch-typing. It's also very close to the size of an 8.5"x11" pad of paper.

So, if you're only in the market for a mid-range device (not pocketable, not a traditional laptop), then 10" is, IMO, the ideal size. Not too big, not too small. Thus, you're likely to see a LOT of devices that hit 10" for screen size.
 
on the one hand, yes, it's a saturated market.

on the other hand, in my uses of various mid-range devices (5" > screen size > 12"), 10" seems to be a sweet spot. For example, for netbook/smartbook/laptop format, it's the minimum size to allow a keyboard with full size keys for comfortable touch-typing. It's also very close to the size of an 8.5"x11" pad of paper.

So, if you're only in the market for a mid-range device (not pocketable, not a traditional laptop), then 10" is, IMO, the ideal size. Not too big, not too small. Thus, you're likely to see a LOT of devices that hit 10" for screen size.
My concern is the heavily saturated market. You can slide down to pocketable devices or slightly up to a full featured notebook.

You don't get the benefits of either.
 
Whatever happens, I'm waiting for revision 2.. the first batch of a new apple product is always overpriced, mostly because of all the hype behind it. It happened with iPods, some Macs and the iPhone..
So I guess the tablet is the next overpriced product
 
I don't really understand what the purpose of this Newton II is. What niche is it expected to fill?

The convergence of:
  • various mid-range/mid-size media devices (Archos movie/music players, Amazon Kindle family),
  • iTunes devices,
  • "general utility" devices, (that level of general utility might be "iPhone/iPod-Touch" type apps or "Mac OS X" type apps, depending on which rumor you believe), and
  • the mid-range/mid-size netbook/convertible-tablet-netbook market*.

(* with Steve Jobs dismissing "convertible-tablet netbooks" (which are somewhat popular in the Windows netbook market ... the EeePC T91 has been selling quite well, from what I've heard, for example ... and a few others are highly regarded) in the same way that he dismissed qwerty-phones when the iPhone came out -- "You don't/wont need a physical keyboard, because the iTablet virtual keyboard is/will-be that good"; which also sort of passes on to not needing a keyboard on your conventional-netbook, either)

In the same way that the iPhone is/was a convergence of:
  • iTunes devices,
  • Phones, and
  • PDAs.
 
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