Why? Is it imperative that you have the new phone on release? You can't wait for your 12 months is up to upgrade?
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Apple Taking 'Cautious Approach' to iPhone Assembly This Year, Lowering Component Orders by 20%
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Inflation is just a few % per annum, and the iPhone X doesn't cost €400 more to make, Apple wanted/charges to much for the X and if rumours are true Apple is aware of this by lowering the prices.
I think on that score one of two things will happen -
Apple will happily forgive the 2 months since they are going to be able to refurb/resell your phone anyways and it's a great customer service piece for the Upgrade program members. A perk, if you will.
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The iPhone release cycle has moved to November. That gives them almost another two months of production, or time to iron out all the production wrinkles, and improves availability at launch.
I think they've moved the launch cycle. Maybe it was due to hardware issues. Maybe it was due to software issues. However, a longer lead between the announcement and launch lets everyone -- buyers, channel partners, carriers -- prepare for what's coming.
Of course it is. Report lower orders/low production launch numbers to drive up demand. After launch, you'll hear "we sold out due to unprecedented demand" and "We've increased our production to meet the worldwide demand." Investors get their panties wet and stock goes up.
Counter question: Why wouldn’t they (Macrumors) print this type of material? Even if it is conflicting or generally not true, if I were to conduct a rumored website, this is material that I would print because it still qualifies as (A)A rumor, (B) Creates controversy/speculation on an Apple related site and (C) Generates clicks, which in turn is what this website relies on the traffic for business.
The only company in the world that can order components to build 80 Million phones and the stock drops!
80 Million multiplied by an average $600 selling price is $48 Billion in revenue. That is only for the rest of 2018.
With margins in the 35% range that's a heck of a lot of profit.
A license to print money and people still aren't happy.
80 Million multiplied by an average $600 selling price is $48 Billion in revenue. That is only for the rest of 2018.
With margins in the 35% range that's a heck of a lot of profit.
A license to print money and people still aren't happy.
Agree except for the phone’s design. X is new and different.
Yay the lack of availability hype begins again. Love this time of year
Apple hit the absolute limits of what they could charge for a phone with the X last year. The paid the price for that to some extent. They may also find that people who DID buy the X will be far less inclined to now upgrade every year. I used to but I can't justify that kind of price for something I don't need EVERY year.
The X should tide me over for a while despite the incoming incremental upgrades of marginally better camera features, faster Face ID, and pseudo 'upgrades' that amount to functionality they chose not to offer on older devices.
My dog, first-world problems you guys! I can’t even imagine getting a brand new iPhone every two years, let alone every 1 year.
I would highly suspect lint. I’ve never actually seen a Lightning port wear out.
Oh dear, don’t know what to say, people on here refused point blank to accept the iPhone wasn’t selling well, highlighted by endless reports of component orders for the X being slashed by 50%, now we have a report they have slashed orders for all the new iPhones by 20%...
Well I hope the do drop the price of the iPhone this year.
Well I hope the do drop the price of the iPhone this year.
My 7Plus is also working great, and although I was tempted by the X - particularly the nearly identically sized screen on a more conveniently sized phone - I didn't consider that enough of an excuse for an upgrade either. I'm looking forward to seeing what they offer in September, but based on all the hype, 5G may be the next big thing worth getting a new phone for - and I'm sure that's still a couple years away from any significant roll-out.
Are you insulting my intelligence just because I have enough disposable income to enjoy something that I'm passionate about? Seriously? Get off your high horse.
There are plenty of people that spend money on things that I think are ridiculous, such as high-end luxury cars. You know what my car payment is every month? $0.00. I pay cash on used cars that I get good deals on. But I don't go around on car forums telling people they have a screw loose because they bought something they're passionate about. I put my money where I want to, end of story. It's none of your concern, full stop. I understand how repayment plans work. I use it for the convenience. I don't have to mess with selling on Craigslist any more. And now they just ship me my new iPhone with a return box for the old one. Easy.
I run a very tight budget and put a lot away each month for investments, retirement, and my children's college funds. I grew up with two idiotic, abusive parents who had mental issues and were always poor because they didn't know how to manage wealth. I know how a freaking repayment plan works.
Since you're a world renown mathematician, allow me to break it down in terms that even a potato would understand:
September: $112 for old iPhone X + $56 for a new iPhone X payment
October: $56 for iPhone X payment, etc for the next year
If they had instead released last September on-time, this is what would happen:
September: $56 for new iPhone X payment
October: $56 for iPhone X payment, etc for the next year
Can you honestly not see the difference here? I'm paying $672 for a ten month period instead of a twelve month period. Over the twelve month period September 2017-2018 I'm paying $784. That is how you budget. I did not budget for that increased cost. Can I cover it? Easy-peasy-lemon-squeazy. But that's not the point. It's about them potentially screwing over their best customers who pay them annually at launch for the most expensive iPhone they make.
I always get the new iPhone at launch. Since they've had the upgrade program, the launch has always been one year apart. The framed it as being easy to upgrade every year. Last year they ran late and I had to pay two months extra on my iPhone 7 before I could get my hands on the iPhone X. I could wait until November, but why should I have to just because they ran into manufacturing problems? I've been doing this since 6-29-07.
Those iPhones weren’t less innovative in their time than today’s lineup is nowadays. Of course each new generation has a technological advantage over its predecessor due to technology evolving in the time between their releases.
PS: $700 in 2014 equal around $740 in 2018, the average inflation rate was 1.43 % over the last years. But $640 was never the price of an high end model, the base model started at $649 for the longest time of the iPhone pricing history. His memory deluded him.
Seriously, what are you talking about? The amount of ignorance still on display after Apple completely refuted all these claims with actual numbers in Q1 and Q2 is just amazing.
You still spout this nonsense after Cook told us 2 quarters in a row that the X was the best selling iPhone every week since release, has all time high satisfaction rates, iPhone ASP was almost $800 in Q1, and Apple posting record iPhone Revenue and profits in both Q1 and Q2.
The iPhone X WAS and IS selling well (better than any iPhone), based on what Cook himself said and the financial performance of AAPL and is why AAPL is trading at all time highs. The reports the iPhone X cut orders 50% was wrong and so is this report, as usual.
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Ah, but not all things increase in price because of inflation or invention. TVs are a prime example. Our first DLP set cost ~$3,200. It’s replacement cost $1,200. Same manufacturer, larger screen, and better reliability. Furthermore, you can buy a higher res LCD for sub $1,000.
I assume iPhones remain expensive because Apple is able to exploit its brand image. On the real cost side, Apple loves to show off its engineering prowess to achieve things that aren’t obvious to the user or justifiably better (butterfly keys). Their solutions are expensive.
I wish we could offload that computing power to a “new Mac mini” that sat on the desk or stayed in my backpack and plugged into my usb devices and hdmi tv.
I thought they said you’d always have the latest phone, as part of the bargain. Was the 12 month wait in small print?
I totally agree this could be market manipulation, and it should result it prison time for the offenders. Apple has, in the past, legitimately, not been able to keep up with demand. Though Apple doesn’t release the numbers of iPhones sold, so we will never know, but the X didn’t sell as many as previous iPhones from years. The price was more than average people could stomach. It’s not like Apple did terrible, I see and know a lot of people that chose an 8, purely on price. I rarely see X’s out in the Wild, and I live in a pretty affluent area. I’m really hoping the rumored lower priced models is true. I think it will start the next super cycle and era for the iPhone.
This "smartphone peak" nonsense has been bandied about without any logic for years. It's basically an argument that relies on things being self evident (I.e., the phone is great now, how better can it possibly get?). The same could have been said after cavemen discovered fire.
2013 We've Reached Peak Smartphone
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/weve-peaked-smartphone/313243/
2015 Have we reached peak smartphone?
https://www.macworld.com/article/2892316/apple-phone/have-we-reached-peak-smartphone.html
Perfect. I can't wait to add to my Apple shares once the analysts bring the price of the stock down again.
Obviously there is a smaller market for more expensive products since fewer people can afford them. Fiat sells 8,000 Ferraris a year, but nearly 200,000 Fiat Pandas. Comparing sales across product lines is meaningless if they are not comparable products.
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Saying stupid things about a company is not illegal, nor is it market manipulation (but even if it was there is no crime called market manipulation). And in the US at least, we have something called the first amendment that protects the freedom of speech.
You can have the latest phone. Just not necessarily on launch day.