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If you own an X, there is really zero reason to get an XR or XS. Apple really missed the mark here. “Oh the chip is faster”...so what? The X is plenty fast. “Oh you can change the depth after taking the photo” well thanks for marketing to the 1% that will habitually use that feature daily. It’s things like that and Animoji’s that are nothing more than a shiny object that wear off after the initial use in a few days. This upgrade is not worth the price point whatsoever.
 
I was tempted to trade my moms 6s towards an xr but she just had the complimentary battery swap and her phone shows zero signs of any issues. She's had it since new and I expect another two years out of it, at least, in terms of software support.

She can't use Touch ID (I guess her prints are too worn down) so Face ID would actually be a welcome upgrade. The rest, to her, would mostly be moot.

Ultimately felt it was still to expensive to justify (for her) but I can see this being a rather attractive option for others still using a 6s.
 
This is what happens when the CEO lets the shareholders, the board and accountants run the company.

And, I want a smaller phone not a bigger phone.
 
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Big business - don't work with your own money, use other people's money .
That's why companies go public these days , and how traders get rich .

Wallstreet doesn't care, investors have no say, it's the people inside a company who get paid in stock who demand quick profit .
And that's how products get worse .
iPhones are not "worse" than before. Nothing is worse, really.
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They're profiling customers based on purchasing history and location. Isn't that a bad thing when Google does it?
I mean, this is a single broad based email marketing campaign done at every American company. Kind of irrelevant to compare it to Google whose entire business model and cash generation is derived from data mining and targeting users. Little different situation, don't you think? Or I we just saying since Apple did this, Apple = Google?

That's like saying since Apple serves lunch at its headquarters, Apple = Chick-fil-A.
 
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Teleportation!

That is the only way Cook can relive iPhone peak revenue of yore.

With teleportation-enabled iPhone, one can say:
"Beam me up, Siri!"/s

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This is what happens when the CEO lets the shareholders, the board and accountants run the company.

And, I want a smaller phone not a bigger phone.

You are right. Shareholders deserve most of the blame and then some more.
 
You aren't the "only" one, but the market has largely spoken that they DO want larger screen phones. Otherwise, Apple would have a 4 inch phone. They have all the research and data to tell them what they should produce.

An alternative to this theory is that they have the confidence to push people who really want a small phone to one of their more expensive larger phones because 38% profit on $999 is more interesting than 38% profit on the cost of the SE. If I remember the SE was the top selling smartphone in the UK in 2016 when it was released so I simply don't believe that the demand is not there. A compelling smaller phone (we all have our fantasy specs) would go a long way to repairing the damage they have inflicted on themselves.
 
Why someone will give Apple his iPhone 7 in order to upgrade to a 549 US$ new iPhone? In the past people just sold their iPhone on ebay and with that money paid the new iPhone in full (plus a 2 year contract from their carrier)
 
I really wanted Xs but too much money. The Xr would be good but too big for me. Why weren't the Xs and XR the same size. Typical Apple alway a caveat, one thing that puts doubt in my mind. My iPhone 6 has a new a battery and I will just wait for now.
Funny. I wanted the XS in the XR size. I choose camera over screen area this time.
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The symptom you described with your SE is usually the result of a lint buildup in the lightening port. You can remove the lint with a bent paperclip and the phone should resume charging normally. That said, it sounds like you're happy with the Xr, so fixing your SE may not be needed.
No! Use a wooden toothpick, not something metallic. But yeah, get that lint out.
 
No, you said you haven't heard from a single person that Face ID is bad and that they prefer Touch ID. Which is demonstrably wrong. It doesn't matter how many people love Face ID if some people will never accept it. But it's not just Face ID. You have to give up form factor (which accounts for more than thinness), headphone jack, a home button AND pay more, for a phone that does the same or less. There is no reason at all to only have a X style lineup other than Apple is ignoring their customers, which would normally lead fanboys to say "fine go to another brand." But since this thread is about Apple's desperate marketing, we know that they don't want people going to a different brand, they want to sell phones to people who are holding onto their headphone jack.
Change is hard, I understand. When people talk about not upgrading the absolute #1 reason is because of the price. They cannot justify spending $750+ on a phone that isn't giving them enough of a benefit over their current phone. Form factor is roughly the same. The 6/7/8 are about the size of the Xs and the Plus models are about the size of the Max. The home button and headphone jack have next to nothing to do with people upgrading (except the vocal minority). This has nothing to do with fanboys. This is just using logic. This is all about the law of diminishing returns.
 
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Apple's in panic mode. It's so funny to watch and read all the comments. Oh man, who could have thought that Apple would go from being innovative and a leader in tech to selling overpriced junk and even it's own consumers reject it.

LOL
 
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If you own an X, there is really zero reason to get an XR or XS. Apple really missed the mark here. “Oh the chip is faster”...so what? The X is plenty fast. “Oh you can change the depth after taking the photo” well thanks for marketing to the 1% that will habitually use that feature daily. It’s things like that and Animoji’s that are nothing more than a shiny object that wear off after the initial use in a few days. This upgrade is not worth the price point whatsoever.
This sentiment wasn’t really different from the 6 to the 6s update. People were saying around the same thing circa 2015.
 
I traded-in my 6s 32GB for the XR 64GB. I received $200 credit for the old phone and didn't have to hassle with selling it, which is fine with me. So, for $550, I got a great new phone that I plan to keep for 3+ years...... much larger screen, more storage, Face ID, better camera, portrait mode (great for family xmas card photos), A12 Bionic chip, water resistant.....pretty good deal. After over a month of using the XR, I am very satisfied with the phone.

I think it is a worthwhile upgrade if you are coming from the 6/6+, 6s/6s+ & possibly the 7/7+. If I had an 8/8+, I would hold-off for future upgrades. But honestly, the XR is really not a phone for people that like to upgrade every year. The Xs/Xs Max are for people that want the latest and greatest technology.
 
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Apple's in panic mode. It's so funny to watch and read all the comments. Oh man, who could have thought that Apple would go from being innovative and a leader in tech to selling overpriced junk and even it's own consumers reject it.

LOL
You really think apple is in “panic” mode? Their guidance is only $84b for a quarter. $1b a day. IMO, their consumers are buying, just not the record volumes Apple hoped.
 
You really think apple is in “panic” mode? Their guidance is only $84b for a quarter. $1b a day. IMO, their consumers are buying, just not the record volumes Apple hoped.

Also $250 billion in cash. Actually that figure I have been using forever they must have more than that by now. They are only one big acquisition from doing very very well and holding steady.
 
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You really think apple is in “panic” mode? Their guidance is only $84b for a quarter. $1b a day. IMO, their consumers are buying, just not the record volumes Apple hoped.

You can twist and bend the truth however you like, but Apple's definitely panicking.
 
An alternative to this theory is that they have the confidence to push people who really want a small phone to one of their more expensive larger phones because 38% profit on $999 is more interesting than 38% profit on the cost of the SE. If I remember the SE was the top selling smartphone in the UK in 2016 when it was released so I simply don't believe that the demand is not there. A compelling smaller phone (we all have our fantasy specs) would go a long way to repairing the damage they have inflicted on themselves.
You still might get an SE at some point, but name any manufacturer that is making a 4 inch phone and selling massive amounts?

No one said the GM has to be poor on it anyway. If it’s in such large demand, they could give it current internals and charge $649 for it and make it like an XR Mini. I just don’t think people want it very badly, or it would exist.

Without an official breakout of sales, I don’t put much confidence into speculative reports saying xyz iPhone is the best selling. It’s ultimately extrapolated data.
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*cough* Modems *cough*
The average person notices zero difference. My opinion, but I think it’s true. I don’t even know what my X has and I care about this stuff.
 
If Apple wants me to upgrade, they damn well better give me more of a trade-in value than $65 for my four-month-old iPhone SE!

Actually, it still won’t work. I had the 6 but still found it too big. Some people don’t want giant phones, and still want TouchID and a headphone jack.
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Why is this not worldwide and for SE owners as well? I would jump to the Xr...

ಠ_ಠ? The notice did go out to SE owners.
 
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If Apple wants me to upgrade, they damn well better give me more of a trade-in value than $65 for my four-month-old iPhone SE!

Actually, it still won’t work. I had the 6 but still found it too big. Some people don’t want giant phones, and still want TouchID and a headphone jack.

Goes beyond just that; a lot of us don't carry purses or 'man purses' and have nowhere to put the phone other than our pants pocket. All these 6" phones barely fit and bulge out when they do.

Then when you finally do pry it out of your pocket to use the monolith, you have to play hand gymnastics by sliding the phone up and down because your thumb can't reach 70% of the screen.

It's amazing how Apple has threw up all over any common sense of practical devices:

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Then they toss out the headphone jack, lying to consumers for their reasoning (apple consumers still don't seem to care), fail to implement USB-C, increase prices, lie about battery issues.... The list just goes on and on.

HOW and WHY does this company keep getting away disrespect for it's consumers?
 
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You can twist and bend the truth however you like, but Apple's definitely panicking.
Or, alternatively, one can spin it that Apple is panicking. All good opinions. :p
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...HOW and WHY does this company keep getting away with disrespect for it's consumers?
It’s possible the customer base that bought the products don’t see it the way you do. I have a max and really liking it. Yeah not the one handed operation like on a 5s, but I got used to it.
 
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