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Pff, Apple, Microsoft, come on, grow up. Stop bashing each other's OS, try to make ad's where you promote the strong points of YOUR software, not the weakness of the other's. This is getting SO VERY old.

I am a Windows ánd OSX user, but I almost would shift to something else (but what) because of these childish campains. Goes fot both...
 
Pff, Apple, Microsoft, come on, grow up. Stop bashing each other's OS, try to make ad's where you promote the strong points of YOUR software, not the weakness of the other's. This is getting SO VERY old.

Microsoft has grown up. Their ad campaign focuses on the UI enhancements in Windows 7. Apple should make their Mac ads more like their iPod/iPhone ads.
 
I don't need to "explain" anything. Reading a book about Operating Systems would be a good start.

The difference in sheer amount of innovation, work, and core technologies that went under the hood in every single iteration of OS X compared to Windows is ridiculous. Not only being under the hood, but also how it was able to affect and improve the end user's usability/workflow (Quicklook? Spotlight? Faster file operations? The subtle animations here and there? etc etc).

Like I said, enjoy whatever works for you. But next time you want to tell others that MS Windows is actually a better OS, I would suggest you do that in the computer engineering department of any university. Should be fun!

Ahhhh..... that doesn't really say anything at all, nor it proves your point right. I won't say Windows is as good as any Unix out there, but to say Windows is **** (or the NT kernel) is just plain ignorance or blind fanboyism.

I guess we know which one is more likely.

Also, what's with the whole paranoia about "MS paid trolls"? Oh wait, it's actually only the same 3 or 4 guys that keep using the same line when they are out of arguments.

(as a sidenote, if Professional Troll was an actual job, I wouldn't mind it at all :p)
 
Light up a glowing Apple on the back of your laptop for the posers at Starbucks?

Wait, I guess that you could run Windows 7 on an Apple laptop - but then you'd be paying hundreds of dollars for that glowing Apple.

But, apparently, many here would rather pay hundreds more for a lesser laptop just for the glowing Apple.

Yup, after your years of constant vigilance pointing out every flaw apple has as if it somehow affects the world, we are all just posers who like our shiny machines :rolleyes:

I know you're just trying to dispel myths on these forums, but you regularly come off as arrogant when you get in the swing of things.
 
Light up a glowing Apple on the back of your laptop for the posers at Starbucks?

Wait, I guess that you could run Windows 7 on an Apple laptop - but then you'd be paying hundreds of dollars for that glowing Apple.

But, apparently, many here would rather pay hundreds more for a lesser laptop just for the glowing Apple.

If you think the Mac owners on this forum bought their Mac just because it's "cool" and has a glowing apple, then all I can say is wow. Do some people buy a Mac just because it's "cool?" Sure. However those people aren't likely on a tech forum talking computer specs either. :rolleyes:
 
it's "not gonna have any of the problems my last operating system had." The ad then progresses through a series of flashbacks of PC, wearing the fashion of the respective dates, making similar promises at the release of previous Windows versions.

Looking back at how painful the upgrade from Tiger to Leoprard and now the upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard were, and how buggy Leopard was in the beginning and how buggy Snow Leopard today is, I would quickly shut up and do my homework if I were Apple.



"I could stick with what I know, but what I know is pain and frustration."

Well. Snow Leopard certainly is more pain and frustration than Windows 7 is in my experience.


"If we have to move all of our stuff, why not move to the computer that's number one in customer satisfaction?"

Simple answer: Because most of your stuff won't work on that Mac. But anyway, I thought those adds are targeted at Windows 7? I didn't know that Microsoft now also is in the business of selling computers.


There was a time when I liked the Apple ads. Then came the time when I woke up in Apple land and had to find out the hard way that it's basically the same old story over there, just packaged in designer clothes and with a higher price tag. And whole lot more religion behind it.
 
Like I said, enjoy whatever works for you. But next time you want to tell others that MS Windows is actually a better OS, I would suggest you do that in the computer engineering department of any university. Should be fun!

I'm sure a computer science department on my campus would laugh at Windows and Mac. It probably has something to do with Red Hat's headquarters being located right on my school's campus though. But what would a bunch of Operating System programmers know about Operating Systems?:rolleyes:
 
If you think the Mac owners on this forum bought their Mac just because it's "cool" and has a glowing apple, then all I can say is wow. Do some people buy a Mac just because it's "cool?" Sure. However those people aren't likely on a tech forum talking computer specs either. :rolleyes:


+1

if anything is cool, its owning a windows PC. Heck, almost the whole world does! I dont know what could possibly be cool about owning a computer with an OS who has 5% WWMS and 10% USMS. I'm dead serious! I'm not being sarcastic at all.
 
I found them both funny and a little depressing. It's a bit sad when Microsoft focus on the positives and all Apple can do is mud sling.

But they work and until Mac sales slow down I guess we're stuck with them.

+1

if anything is cool, its owning a windows PC. Heck, almost the whole world does! I dont know what could possibly be cool about owning a computer with an OS who has 5% WWMS and 10% USMS. I'm dead serious! I'm not being sarcastic at all.

You're right. There isn't anything cool about owning a computer of any sort.
 
I don't need to "explain" anything. Reading a book about Operating Systems would be a good start.

The difference in sheer amount of innovation, work, and core technologies that went under the hood in every single iteration of OS X compared to Windows is ridiculous. Not only being under the hood, but also how it was able to affect and improve the end user's usability/workflow (Quicklook? Spotlight? Faster file operations? The subtle animations here and there? etc etc).

Like I said, enjoy whatever works for you. But next time you want to tell others that MS Windows is actually a better OS, I would suggest you do that in the computer engineering department of any university. Should be fun!

I have a degree in CS from a pretty well known (worldwide) university. The fact you would pull this kind of thing out makes me think you're a student who thinks he knows it all because he has finally reached his upper division courses.

Don't be silly.

By the way, for better or worse, Windows 7 feels much faster than any iteration of OSX. Gotta love the functionality of that finder too.
 
Looking back at how painful the upgrade from Tiger to Leoprard and now the upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard were, and how buggy Leopard was in the beginning and how buggy Snow Leopard today is, I would quickly shut up and do my homework if I were Apple.





Well. Snow Leopard certainly is more pain and frustration than Windows 7 is in my experience.




Simple answer: Because most of your stuff won't work on that Mac. But anyway, I thought those adds are targeted at Windows 7? I didn't know that Microsoft now also is in the business of selling computers.


There was a time when I liked the Apple ads. Then came the time when I woke up in Apple land and had to find out the hard way that it's basically the same old story over there, just packaged in designer clothes and with a higher price tag. And whole lot more religion behind it.

One of the best posts on this board. I use pretty much everything, and for people to say OSX somehow just works while Windows is complete trash...well it's just asinine. In fact, based on my personal usage, Windows 7 absolutely trounces Snow Leopard, except maybe in how pretty the desktop looks. But that quickly fades away when you see how much faster 7 is, and how much more productive you can be with it.

Try editing some AVCHD on OSX. You know, with those USB HD cams that Steve Jobs used as justification for getting rid of firewire on the old macbooks. I'd like to hear his explanation on that one.
 
Kind of like those Laptop Hunter ads that showed older Macs with higher prices ?

Two wrongs don't make a right. I don't recall the Laptop Hunters ads caricaturising the products though.

The new Windows 7 adverts are great though.
 
Kind of like those Laptop Hunter ads that showed older Macs with higher prices ?

I thought they were the current prices, and Apple quickly lowered them right after they came out? Remember, people thought they were effective...

Though I'm not a huge fan of most Windows laptops myself.
 
<3 windows 7 and the theme eidorian had the courtesy to link me to.
I also really really like this laptop I have - absolutely no trouble whatsoever.
 
Hahaha. The news commercial is funny. And I'm glad to see that I can view the ads in Firefox instead of having to open up Safari. There's nothing wrong with Safari, but I didn't like how Apple only enabled the videos if the user was using Safari. I still own a PC, but my next computer will be a Mac (I would like to have both).
 
<3 windows 7 and the theme eidorian had the courtesy to link me to.
I also really really like this laptop I have - absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

Question since you seem to own PC's only. At least by your signature.

Why did you join a Mac-related community website if you just own PC's ?

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nevermind. I should have known. You have a hackintosh.

Which begs the question. Why do you have a hackintosh? Do you like OSX or something ?

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That's exactly what I've been saying for years... Apple does not illustrate anything about the Mac's features, different models, the bundled software, etc...

These ads were great for the first year. They've been blah to me ever since, since all they keep doing is bashing Windows, and not promoting Macs.

Ditto.

This ads do Apple no favours in my opinion. I know people who have specifically cited them as perpetuating the smug arrogance image of Apple and its users. Only this week, a colleague said she didn't want a Mac, because of Mac users.
 
Really? This argument again?

I built an i7-based system for my gaming need, and here were the parts:

Intel i7 920
6 GB Corsair DDR3 1600
ASUS Rampage II Gene motherboard
Lite On DVD+/- RW drive (SATA)
One 640GB HD (SATA)
Radeon 5850
Corsair HX750 PSU
Corsair H50 CPU water cooler
Linksys WMP300N wireless adapter
mATX case
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
Microsoft Sidewinder X8
Windows 7 Professional

Total system cost? $1545 (I actually got Windows 7 Pro for $40 through the educational discount, but the price I used for the estimation was the $130 OEM cost I've seen around)

The entry-level Mac Pro uses the server-based version of the i7 920, but it's comparable. Here's how I spec'd the Mac Pro using Apple's store:

Xeon 2.66 Ghz
6 GB Ram
640 GB drive (default)
ATI Radeon 4870 (last-gen, 5850 is easily better, but highest-available option)
18x SuperDrive (default)
AirPort Xtreme Wi-Fi card
Standard Apple mouse, keyboard

Cost? $2899

So comparable systems roughly (I'd argue the system I built is better, due to a likely better motherboard with SLI/Crossfire support, and the Radeon 5850), but a ~ $1300 price difference. So you're essentially paying $1300 for the Apple name, case, and labor.

I also checked Dell, and after suffering through their horrendous selection process, I was able to similarly spec a system (except using a 5870 instead of a 5850) for $1799. A couple of hundred more than mine, but still $1100 beneath Apple's price.

Don't get me wrong, I love OS X, and think one of it's best advantages is the close-knit nature Apple maintains between the hardware they develop and OS X. But don't try and say that Apple's prices are the same as others.


Apples and oranges...you can't compare a prebuilt system with a system that you built yourself. The average consumer does not build a computer...they buy it "in a box"

that said...comparable computers or not...you can get a PC for general computing needs for around $300 now. And of course...the general consumer doesn't need some crazy set up.

I'll pay for a mac because I feel more comfortable ordering stuff with my credit card online with one...with my windows machine...I have to reinstall the OS twice a year to keep it running well.

My 7 year old mac laptop still runs like new...and my new mac laptop runs like the wind!
 
These adds are getting old and misleading in non funny way. System security on SL isn't anything you can cheer about. Hell, I had the guest account enabled... Luckily the account wasn't used.
 
Apples and oranges...you can't compare a prebuilt system with a system that you built yourself. The average consumer does not build a computer...they buy it "in a box"

that said...comparable computers or not...you can get a PC for general computing needs for around $300 now. And of course...the general consumer doesn't need some crazy set up.

I'll pay for a mac because I feel more comfortable ordering stuff with my credit card online with one...with my windows machine...I have to reinstall the OS twice a year to keep it running well.

My 7 year old mac laptop still runs like new...and my new mac laptop runs like the wind!

Sigh...

Bafflefish said:
I also checked Dell, and after suffering through their horrendous selection process, I was able to similarly spec a system (except using a 5870 instead of a 5850) for $1799. A couple of hundred more than mine, but still $1100 beneath Apple's price.

I knew people would use the "you can't compare self-built to pre-built systems, so I included a Dell pre-built system as well ;)

My PowerMac G4 runs Leopard just fine. It's fast and loads most applications in a reasonable amount of time.

I also have a Pentium III slot-based system, 500 Mhz, with 256MB of RAM, a Voodoo 3 2000 AGP graphics card, and a 13 GB HD. I still keep it running as a server, and it's been running nearly continuously since 1999.

Seriously, take care of most systems, pre-built or self-built, and they'll last a very long time. Parts sometimes fail, but that happens in both PCs and Macs.
 
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