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Apple Targets Windows 7 With Three New 'Get a Mac' Ads

I still like the ads. They're pithy.

Apple wants to capitalise on the Windows 7 migration. That's why they announced a slew of products (which have been getting good reviews) the day before the W7 launch and new ads on that very day.

Aggressive from Apple. I wonder if they are just stepping up their marketing for the time (upgrade season), or if they're actually scared of good reviews of W7 getting momentum.
 
I personally think that a "box on the floor" isn't what I was getting at. There are many design aspects of the mac that are not in any "box on the floor".

Let's take Heat Transfer 101. Apple designs there systems to be efficient cooling and understands how to manage the heat build up in their systems. Your "box on the floor" has a power supply fan in it to do the same work cause *YOU* don't know anything about that and just picked up the 100 dollar special at Fry's, cause that works good.

I guess arguing with people who don't understand technology is like arguing with a bee about why he's flying, he doesn't get it.



dukebound85 said:
to some, a computer is a box on the floor

i know i prefer functionality over design

i mena i dont use my computer to look at it
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Good stuff, and yes, it's also BAD. I wish Apple & MS (with their anti Apple laptop ads) would stop snipin' @1nother and let the market/the people decide. Actually, I will be quite glad if W7 does better than Vista. Apple needs a little fire under its tail, because - frankly - OS X hasn't really changed much since I got back into the Apple camp 3 years ago (after a 10 year absence). Don't get me wrong, it's a great OS, but... I'm still looking for the killer feature that will make me yell "genius!".
 
Well...

For what it's worth, the line, "well go to the next commercial" (or something like that) made me actually laugh out loud, saw it during Parks & Recreation earlier tonight.

I ordered a new iMac 27" as soon as possible, been wanting more screen real estate for programming and that resolution combined with my 24" LED ACD will be almost 6 million pixels of space... :eek:

PC's are cheaper (sometimes by a lot) up front but I value my time too much. I spend no time updating anti-virus and anti-spyware definitions, no time degragging, no time wondering why my Bluetooth devices won't wake up (constant frustration with a PC, at least for me), no time wondering why my computer is slowing down every day. I was (and am) a Windows programmer and love Visual Studio when doing so (though I do much more iPhone development using XCode these days), but the amount of time I save doing every other task in the world where I could be billing or creating a resellable software solution has paid for many more Macs than the ones I own.

That's my take on the whole thing, for what it's worth.
 
Kristenn said:
I do actual work. You built that machine to game right? nice work.

BTW. If my laptop was made of wood I wouldn't care as long as its thin. Try carrying those brick laptops you post about around campus all day. Go on just try it, I dare you. Especially in the summertime.


PS.

Hi I'm a PC!

And I'm a Cocky Bastard. Come on, everyone knows Mac is a cocky bastard =D


Double edit. My computer is for more important things than games, oh... sorry. GAMING GAMING GAMING!

BTW my MB games fine. COD4 on high isn't bad at all. Even on the normal Macbook.
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You do realize that a gaming desktop computer is often built using some of the highest-performance consumer components available, right? Thus, even though it's built "for gaming", it can almost certainly do everything your lower-performance system can do, but faster in many situations. Probably for less money, too.

Seriously, what matters is if you are happy with your purchase, and it satisfies you. If it does, then that's good. :)

People seem to get really defensive when you point out that a similar or more powerful PC often costs less. You'd think people would know that Macs often come with some type of cost premium, solely because it's Apple.

And to be completely honest, you can find PCs with similar performance as the Mac Book / Mac Book Pros, with around the same weight. Even the top-model 17" MBP can't equal the top performance of similarly-priced PCs. It's funny too, because people talk about battery life. It's almost like everyone forgot that the "Pro" in MBP stood for professional, as in, those wanting high performance. The general Apple consumer laptop was the iBook/Mac Book. Now it's more the entry-model Mac Book "Pros".
 
infiniteentropy said:
For what it's worth, the line, "well go to the next commercial" (or something like that) made me actually laugh out loud, saw it during Parks & Recreation earlier tonight.

I ordered a new iMac 27" as soon as possible, been wanting more screen real estate for programming and that resolution combined with my 24" LED ACD will be almost 6 million pixels of space... :eek:

PC's are cheaper (sometimes by a lot) up front but I value my time too much. I spend no time updating anti-virus and anti-spyware definitions, no time degragging, no time wondering why my Bluetooth devices won't wake up (constant frustration with a PC, at least for me), no time wondering why my computer is slowing down every day. I was (and am) a Windows programmer and love Visual Studio when doing so (though I do much more iPhone development using XCode these days), but the amount of time I save doing every other task in the world where I could be billing or creating a resellable software solution has paid for many more Macs than the ones I own.

That's my take on the whole thing, for what it's worth.
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Well said. Good luck with the new iMac. Give us a report when you've used it awhile.
 
Bafflefish said:
You do realize that a gaming desktop computer is often built using some of the highest-performance consumer components available, right? Thus, even though it's built "for gaming", it can almost certainly do everything your lower-performance system can do, but faster in many situations. Probably for less money, too.

Seriously, what matters is if you are happy with your purchase, and it satisfies you. If it does, then that's good. :)

People seem to get really defensive when you point out that a similar or more powerful PC often costs less. You'd think people would know that Macs often come with some type of cost premium, solely because it's Apple.

And to be completely honest, you can find PCs with similar performance as the Mac Book / Mac Book Pros, with around the same weight. Even the top-model 17" MBP can't equal the top performance of similarly-priced PCs. It's funny too, because people talk about battery life. It's almost like everyone forgot that the "Pro" in MBP stood for professional, as in, those wanting high performance. The general Apple consumer laptop was the iBook/Mac Book. Now it's more the entry-model Mac Book "Pros".
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Yeah I know. But its like gaming is the only thing people ever bring up when talking about a PC. That can't be all their good for. And I have never seen a 17 inch laptop as portable as Apple's. I dunno what rock I have been sleeping under. Most 16 inchers from Sony weigh over 6 pounds.
 
tmuller said:
Let's take Heat Transfer 101. Apple designs there systems to be efficient cooling and understands how to manage the heat build up in their systems. Your "box on the floor" has a power supply fan in it to do the same work cause *YOU* don't know anything about that and just picked up the 100 dollar special at Fry's, cause that works good.
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What? Ever felt how hot iMac's get? Up until this last refresh, they've been using notebook components. So a larger overall footprint for the system, which should equate to better cooling than a laptop, often resulted in systems that felt as hot as, or hotter than, a similarly-spec'd laptop (whether a MBP or PC laptop).

I'm sorry, but this is one area where I will put my foot in the sand and argue, at least in terms of desktop systems.

Up until the G5 Mac Pro case, Apple's case design was horrible from a cooling/performance standpoint. Did the cases look "pretty"? Sure. They caught people's attention. They also had higher internal system temperatures than a standard PC.

For my i7 system, my case can hold 5 120mm fans. Not wanting to deal with noise, I replaced all of the standard fans with Scythe FDB-based low-decibel fans. My CPU uses an enclosed water cooling system with a radiator that mounts to a 120mm fan mount. Each side has 2 fans (with one in the rear), so both sides pull cool air in, and air export is handled by the PSU's 140mm fan, the GPU expels its own air out the back, and the rear 120mm fan handles the rest. Overall, system temps average less than 40C. Try getting a Mac Pro to that level. And most general PC cases now are designed with the principle of positive air pressure.

The reality is, Apple for a long time (and even to this day, in some regards), put more emphasis on case appearance than case design. I'm sorry, but a computer's first task is to compute, not to have the most eye-catching design for miles.
 
Maybe I'm being a little too nitpicky, but Windows 3 (specifically 3.1.1) preceded Windows 95, not Windows 2.

Other than that, this was my favorite "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercial since the one with Giselle Bundchen. It was laugh-out-loud funny (just like the Giselle one.) :D
 
Rot'nApple said:
I don't see the biggest cost segment on that sliced up Apple and that's Apples R&D benefiting Microsoft on OS, MP3 Players, Digital Music Stores, and Brick and Mortar Retail Stores or Palm on cell phones?!
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It was canceled out by the "Savings from stealing Nokia patents on phone technology" segment.
 
Axemantitan said:
Maybe I'm being a little too nitpicky, but Windows 3 (specifically 3.1.1) preceded Windows 95, not Windows 2.

Other than that, this was my favorite "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercial since the one with Giselle Bundchen. It was laugh-out-loud funny (just like the Giselle one.) :D
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Probably wanted the 80's ambience and clothing style that Windows 2 implied. Sonny Crocket would have been a funny stand in. :D That Miami vice theme song is a real earwig. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkurWAXgZs
 
Saladinos said:
or if they're actually scared of good reviews of W7 getting momentum.
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I think a large part of it is the good reviews 7 has gotten so far. Hence why they only went with "Customer Satisfaction" as the main reason why you shouldn't go to Windows 7 along with the clean install of 7 being required. Arguments from the Apple camp have been "if your going to bring everything over, why don't you just go to Mac?" Well lets not forget that some programs people run on XP that would have to be reinstalled on 7 and work fine might not even be compatible with Mac or if they have versions that are compatible they may have to buy a Mac version. Also, haven't I seen most Mac Users here say a clean install of SL was the way to go for the best performance? I realize that its varies from the XP upgrade to 7 because you HAVE to do a clean install if you even want it to run, but come on let's not overlook whole sides of the argument.
 
Kristenn said:
Yeah I know. But its like gaming is the only thing people ever bring up when talking about a PC. That can't be all their good for. And I have never seen a 17 inch laptop as portable as Apple's. I dunno what rock I have been sleeping under. Most 16 inchers from Sony weigh over 6 pounds.
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I'd say the average weight I've seen of a typical PC laptop is probably around the 7-8 lb mark.

Remember though, the 17" MBP is 6.6 lbs itself.

The reality is that with even the top-model MBP, Apple basically has to decide whether to spec for top performance, which usually results in greater thickness (to accommodate the extra cooling needed for the higher-performance parts), or to go with lower-performing parts, that allows them to reduce the thickness, extend the battery life, and advertise all these great things.

By comparison, a lot of your 17" similarly-priced PCs include Core 2 Quads, much higher performance graphics cards, etc. (and yes, while this does help with gaming, it also helps with any application that involves intensive 3D or imaging work, so design programs, Photoshop, etc.)

My biggest gripe, to be honest, is that Apple has kinda moved the Pro line as being more of a high-priced general consumer laptop. I mean, the 17" MBPs are thinner (and thus more portable) than most 17" PC laptops, but really, lugging around a 17" laptop by its size alone isn't really ideal. They're more meant to be "desktop replacement" systems, and in that essence, Apple should allow the 17" model to be thicker, and have higher-performance hardware.
 
Bafflefish said:
I'd say the average weight I've seen of a typical PC laptop is probably around the 7-8 lb mark.

Remember though, the 17" MBP is 6.6 lbs itself.
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Wow, you're right. That $779 Dell 17" Studio hovers just over 7 lbs.

I didn't think the MacBook Pro 17" was so heavy.
 
Really?

During a break in the ALCS game tonight, an ad for W7 was aired. Some guy was talking about how his computer would allow him to re-size windows with more than one window on the same screen. All that was what all of my Macs have been able to do since 1990.

For a moment I thought he was using spaces, but I think he must have been talking about Snap.

So I thought I would see what was supposed to be different about W7 and check its features. But I cannot - seems I have to have some M$-specific software installed - not flash and not wmv and not avi. That is ridiculous! I guess I won't be buying W7 for my Windoz notebook ... or for my Mac Pro (on which I have yet to run a M$ app).

Digital River to buy W7? Don't you know that's lame! Why doesn't M$ use one of the established methods of paying for products - such as credit cards and other reputable methods.

Someone made a remark about a HUGE BUG in Snow Leopard without having any real knowledge about the matter. Soon several others were using the same comment. When 10.6.2 is released, that will not be a problem for the few people who experienced it - one person even wrote how it can be avoided. So now what rumor can we start about PCs that will have everyone worrying?

Stop! STOP! Already stop! Windows is not THAT terrible! It's just a little obtuse. But then, that's my experience with XP. Maybe W7 will be more usable - like OS X.

Hmm. Wonder when SP1 is being released.
 
tmuller said:
Let's take Heat Transfer 101. Apple designs there systems to be efficient cooling and understands how to manage the heat build up in their systems. Your "box on the floor" has a power supply fan in it to do the same work cause *YOU* don't know anything...
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:rolleyes:

Eeesh. At least if you're going to try and berate someone about technology, have a freakin' clue what you're talking about.



Anyway....
Mac vs. PC nonsense was old news and ultra-lame 10 years ago. NOBODY buy fanboys gives a good crap about it anymore.
 
Bubba Satori said:
Probably wanted the 80's ambience and clothing style that Windows 2 implied. Sonny Crocket would have been a funny stand in. :D That Miami vice theme song is a real earwig. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkurWAXgZs
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Yeah, you might be right. I love Miami Vice, BTW. I started watching it on Hulu recently and found out how awesome and ahead-of-its-time it was. It's interesting seeing all of the celebrities before they were famous. I actually prefer Crockett's Theme to the show's theme, though. It was an incredible piece of ambient music and reminds of some of the music from my favorite video game ever, Deus Ex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UmOY6ek_Y4
 
Eidorian said:
Wow, you're right. That $779 Dell 17" Studio hovers just over 7 lbs.

I didn't think the MacBook Pro 17" was so heavy.
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Yeah, Apple tends to highlight the 15" model's features, including the weight, and I think a lot of times people just auto-associate it to the other models.

The 17" is one of the lightest laptops around, especially in terms of what it's still capable of. But I mean, a .4 lb difference is really not that much. Even a 1 lb difference isn't that great really.
 
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