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Am i'm the only one that is happy to see that apple is taking a beating?

Don't get me wrong! I have every Apple product but this year for example i didn't replace my MacBook Pro, the iPad or the iPhone! It's not worth it.

Can't sell an iPad that bends and tell that is normal.
Or the same iPhone like last year with a small bump in specs and pretend that iPhone X didn't exists!
Can't push updates to devices that bricks them! Like they did last year with apple watch first series and iPhones!
And the list can go on!

Apple needs to wake up! Soon!


I think Apple really needs to simplify their product lines and reduce their prices. I think they need an attitude check with the whole iPad bending issue. In my opinion, Apple should have said that the bending happens with the how the iPad Pro is made but to say in that same statement costumers can exchange it. You can't keep increasing prices and making statements like that.
 
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I’m sorry but no. I’m not even a big fan of the Touch Bar but I’m also not a fan of kick stands or the UI on windows 10 and not even the shape of the Surface device. People say they love it but then they try to use it to do productive stuff. It’s like a buggier iPad Pro that you cant really use as a tablet. I had a surface and was left with the impression that the display was too small to do productive stuff with it and that the device didn’t work as a tablet at all.

I am the opposite. I enjoy my Surface Go and it’s more useful than the iPad Mini 4 it replaced. The iPad Pro is expensive and hampered by the OS being too simple for the hardware. If it had Mac OS, I would consider the iPP.
 
I’m sorry but no. I’m not even a big fan of the Touch Bar but I’m also not a fan of kick stands or the UI on windows 10 and not even the shape of the Surface device. People say they love it but then they try to use it to do productive stuff. It’s like a buggier iPad Pro that you cant really use as a tablet. I had a surface and was left with the impression that the display was too small to do productive stuff with it and that the device didn’t work as a tablet at all.

Did you have one of the original Surface devices. Those had 16:9 aspect ratios and were way too small top-to-bottom for efficient work. The SP3 and newer, on the other hand, with a 3:2 aspect ratio and bigger screen is quite nice to work with. It does decent in tablet mode, great with the Surface keyboard/trackpad, or if need be just plug an external monitor into the mini-DP port and hook up a mouse and you've got a full-blown computer at your disposal. It is much more versatile than the iPad.
 
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To you all stating its FAKE NEWS, this one thing right here says Apple is having a hard time selling the XR (First time they have ever had to do this)
 

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Pricing for these new phones are ridiculously high. In Germany the Max Version goes for as much as a Mac Book Pro and it runs an iOS which has totally gotten out of hand with bugs and what not....

Tim is a success but him failing to invent will in the long run make Apple go down. His ride on Steve's inventions is stalling !
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Tim's strategy is to keep raising prices to offset losses. Brilliant idea.....
LOL...

But I from what I see the new iPhones X series is a BUG HIT with older people. My Mom, Uncle and Aunt all three over 70 bought them on the spot. All the young folks in the fam.. are sitting with their 8 series wondering whether to swap to Samsung. iOS is holding them back from the switch but if they keep going on the way they are now iOS will be nothing but a prettier but poorer working version of Android and then nothing will hold them back...

Tim doesnt understand that iOS is what is keeping his hardware afloat NOT the other way around !
 
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May be. I own both the iPhone X and the Pocophone F1. To be honest there is no big difference in application software - most of the apps I have in iOS are also in Android, OsiriX a dicom viewer is only for iOS. But there are other apps are only for android available.
Widgets a big + on the Android side and Airprint on the iOS side. It is much easier to transfer files / using the Pocophone F1 as an usb-drive. I do not feel any difference in speed.

My guess is, if the price difference will stay, more people will switch to Android.
Actually, more people switched from android phones to iPhone XR.
 
Underline issue, wireless bills are now hitting the average family pretty hard. Mirroring the cost of cable. A family of four could easily have a wireless bill of $300 a month or $3,600 a year (network $40 and phone $35 each). If the family could get an extra year or more out of the phones, a nice savings ($1,600). The average wireless bill part up 31% from 2009. Makes the cable bill seem small.

Many are now feeling the pains and looking for options. Tim Cook’s comment about the price of coffee. That would be four coffees in this example from one budget.

Will see how high a price these families are willing to go with Apple.
 
No you’re are being critical (and somewhat hyperbolic) for reasons I don’t agree with.

What other company in the smartphone sector is making $1B day and innovating as much as Apple?

What other company is waiting 4, 5 and 10 years to upgrade a product? Which in computer is actually a lifetime?

Where are you been lately? You may not agree, but numbers and facts speak for themselves.

Apple sales are down quarter over quarter on Macbooks and ipads. iphone stalled. I wonder why.
Apple will not be reporting iPhone sales... I wonder why?
Apple stock fell over 34% form the highs.
Apple lowering guidance.
Apple cutting iPhone production.
Innovation has been stalled for years.

It seems that users are speaking with their wallets to the overpriced Cook's product line up.
Long time Apple users are tired of the Tim Cook nonsense.

Hey...but Tim Cook solution is to improve the trading program for iphones...what a joke...
 
I actually know more people with an XR than an X or XS. My wife and I got new phones in November, my coworker and her daughter both got one, my wife's coworker got one, and one of the auditors who was here just before Thanksgiving had one. I only know two people who have an X and nobody with an XS.

The XR is a great device, but a little overpriced at MSRP. The carrier I bought from was having a BOGO sale so I am paying $799 (I got 128GB) for two phones which brings the average cost down to $400 each. It is totally worth it at that price.

Definitely not disputing the device as a great iPhone, I just haven't seen anyone purchase one in my circle. Although I personally would never buy it because I seem to be one of the handful of people who loves 3D touch. If they included that I would have actually upgraded from the 8, but now I'm totally fine keeping it as my 3yr device.
 
What other company is waiting 4, 5 and 10 years to upgrade a product? Which in computer is actually a lifetime?

Where are you been lately? You may not agree, but numbers and facts speak for themselves.

Apple sales are down quarter over quarter on Macbooks and ipads. iphone stalled. I wonder why.
Apple will not be reporting iPhone sales... I wonder why?
Apple stock fell over 34% form the highs.
Apple lowering guidance.
Apple cutting iPhone production.
Innovation has been stalled for years.

It seems that users are speaking with their wallets to the overpriced Cook's product line up.
Long time Apple users are tired of the Tim Cook nonsense.

Hey...but Tim Cook solution is to improve the trading program for iphones...what a joke...
Apple is making $1b a day and customers are speaking with their wallets. You may not like the direction of the computer lineup but you can’t disagree the reduced guidance of $84B is still a good number.

“Long time” apple customers may not like cook, but this short time apple customer does.
 
Perfectly normal for this time of the year.. happens every year after holiday quarter... yet Troll Nikke is still trying to paint is alarming

And it seems some still fall for it....Simply amazing ‍♂️
 
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Underline issue, wireless bills are now hitting the average family pretty hard. Mirroring the cost of cable. A family of four could easily have a wireless bill of $300 a month or $3,600 a year (network $40 and phone $35 each). If the family could get an extra year or more out of the phones, a nice savings ($1,600). The average wireless bill part up 31% from 2009. Makes the cable bill seem small.

Many are now feeling the pains and looking for options. Tim Cook’s comment about the price of coffee. That would be four coffees in this example from one budget.

Will see how high a price these families are willing to go with Apple.

Last quarter took a hard look at my home plan (AT&T), the phones on contract and the features.
Paid off contract phones. Worn out phones replaced with models a year or more old instead of latest and greatest. Features looked at and decisions of needed or not.
Cut my monthly mobile bill by almost 50% as of Jan 2019.

We are about split 50-50 on Android-iOS.
 
Apple is making $1b a day and customers are speaking with their wallets. You may not like the direction of the computer lineup but you can’t disagree the reduced guidance of $84B is still a good number.

“Long time” apple customers may not like cook, but this short time apple customer does.
Apple is not making $1B a day. $1B is revenues. It's very possible to sell $1B worth of stuff daily and not making any profit.
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Perfectly normal for this time of the year.. happens every year after holiday quarter... yet Troll Nikke is still trying to paint is alarming

And it seems some still fall for it....Simply amazing ‍♂️

Just read the article. You are refuting fake claims (made by you not Nikkei).
 
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The trade in and upgrade is a service, not really an economic thing because you can sell your old iPhone for more than the trade in value that Apple is offering. It is just a lot easier to do the transaction at Apple than to post your sale on Ebay or Craigslist.

As you say, this cut in production is hard to compare since you don't know what it was cut from and what is normal as you get away from the launch day demand.

In any case, Apple will give updated estimate for revenue in 2Q 2019 soon enough. Probably the stock settles back to trading at something like 15 times earnings, which is a very normal level for a stock to trade at.

And folks can claim "lack of innovation" and ignore things like Apple went from selling no watches to being maybe the biggest watch seller in the world in something like four years.
If you look at this trade and upgrade, Apple made a sell and most likely you will not get your old phone back should you choose to change your mind and want to return the new phone. Why not keep the old phone as backup, whether you trade it in or sell on your own. The bottom line is Apple wants to sell XR and XS and to continue to say it is selling well and not wanting to reduce production.
 
As long as Apple keep on releasing fantastic almost-perfect products, far beyond competitors, and sold at reasonable prices, I don't see why us customers should worry about any of this kind of news. It is only an "AAPL" problem, not ours.
 
My guess is it's to get the older phones out of circulation.

I had an iPhone 7 plus that I wanted to give to my parents, so I bought an XR. The only reason I bought the XR at all is to have an extra phone, and it turns out I absolutely hate the XR compared to the 7 plus.

There has been so little improvement since the 6S came out that even a 4 year old phone is serious competition for the latest. That has to be hurting apple.
They are accepting iPhones from 5 and including X and you can see what trade in value for each models.
 
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