Apple Tested Stage Manager on iPads Without M1 Chip and Wasn't Satisfied

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

I’ve moved on from this. The best you can do is use your current iPad within its limitation and upgrade when you can.

Good thinking! I'm curious how useful "Stage Manager" will become for the regular consumer.

 

[boss.king]

Want to know why there’s no calculator app on the iPad? Because resizable windows is only available on M series chips. They would be restricting a basic feature to “pro users” and Apple wouldn’t be able to live with it.

That sort of number crunching is something that only an M3 chip can handle.

 

[Wildkraut]

Tomorrow's MR headline:

"EU investigating Apple for new iOS features not compatible with older devices, other OS systems".

That would be great, I’m for a iOS code audit, this would bring a lot of anticompetitive practices to light.

 

[coachgq]

Apple needs to stop justifying this and stick to its guns.

People were screaming for a reason to have M1 when iPadOS didn't need that kind of HP. Now that its here, those same people are moaning those reasons make them upgrade.

You don't get to have it both ways.

This is so true.

 

[bernstein]

I am more annoyed by how Apple spins this than whether it is available on older devices.

same here

 

[jarman92]

This whole thing is so funny to me because you just know that 99% of the people complaining barely ever use the existing multitasking and would use this twice before going back to their usual full-screen apps.

 

[BootsWalking]

People complain too much about engineering issues they have no idea about.

People are too accepting of engineering explanations they have no idea about.

 

[cb3]

Put at least a version of M1 in everything from this day forward.

 

[boss.king]

Apple needs to stop justifying this and stick to its guns.

People were screaming for a reason to have M1 when iPadOS didn't need that kind of HP. Now that its here, those same people are moaning those reasons make them upgrade.

You don't get to have it both ways.

It's almost like iPad users aren't just a collective borg and not all users have the same ideas and opinions.

 

[Taipan]

I don‘t know. Even the previous iPad was comparable to many desktop PCs in performance, and I‘m pretty sure those were able to handle a few open applications and windows. Didn‘t Apple even tout desktop performance before the M1?
Not that I‘m interested in this feature in any way…

 

[matt3526]

"Apple Tested Stage Manager on iPads Without M1 Chip and Wasn't Satisfied..."

... With the projected revenue figures?

 

[UBS28]

This is so true.

Apple better not release Pro Apps that can utilize the power of the M1 iPad Pro, because people will complain also.

 

[Wildkraut]

"Apple Tested Stage Manager on iPads Without M1 Chip and Wasn't Satisfied..."

... With the projected revenue figures?

Yep sounds more like somebody got whipped for making it work on A12Z, instead of starting the development directly with M1.

 

[pdaholic]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[AxiomaticRubric]

I agree. I think the people hyper focused on this are losing sight of the forest for the trees. The larger point is that iPadOS is still quite lame in terms of productivity, and this one inconsistency is just one example of many that highlights it.

For the iPad all we want is a dynamic context-based version of macOS and its file system with every advantage of a tablet. It’s too much to ask apparently.

 

[tsa1]

Yeah the A12X and A12Z are so underpowered. They’re too busy trying to handle all the other powerful iPadOS features like… you know. So can totally see them not being able to handle this…. JK.

 

[kwikdeth]

wasn't satisfied (with the profit margins)

 

[GuillaumeB]

This really killed me. They gave dev a A12z powered Mac mini as a testing machine for macOS ARM and got astonishing benchmarks for a desktop OS. And now suddenly, that same chip cant handle that feature ?
That guy is a liar, and there is nothing else to say about it.
This really makes me want to move out of Apple ******** ecosystem

 

[Ferc Kast]

The A12X and A12Z are 4-year old chips. Be prepared that the M1 iPads get more features that those 4-year old chips don’t.

Samsung devices only gets 4-years worth of updates and then it is over. So before everybody starts screaming bad Apple, on Android it is even worse.

I believe my iPad Air 2 is able to run the latest iPad OS even.

The A12X is from 2018. The A12Z was only introduced in 2020; and it was even used for the Mac mini dev kit before the first M1 Macs were released. As such, it is obvious that windowing is something that the A12Z can handle.

 

[UBS28]

The A12X is from 2018. The A12Z was only introduced in 2020; and it was even used for the Mac mini dev kit before the first M1 Macs were released. As such, it is obvious that windowing is something that the A12Z can handle.

The A12Z is the same chip as the A12X but with an extra GPU core added on top of it. So the A12Z is also a 4-year old chip.

I’m sure the A12Z can handle windowing. But the question is if it is as good as Apple intended it to be.

 

[sorgo †]

Another day, another ass-covering attempt 😅

 

[now i see it]

All the people moaning about it not being implemented on their older device probably wouldn’t use it anyway

 

[Leon Ze Professional]

"The M1 iPad Pro is available with up to 16GB of RAM and a Thunderbolt port, while the previous-generation iPad Pro features 6GB of RAM and a USB-C port. "

So is Craig now suggesting that they gimped earlier iPads by not providing enough RAM? Am I reading this right?

 

[Wildkraut]

The A12Z is the same chip as the A12X but with an extra GPU core added on top of it. So the A12Z is also a 4-year old chip.

I’m sure the A12Z can handle windowing. But the question is if it is as good as Apple intended it to be.

If 4GB is enough for BigSur to run on an Intel hardware with multiple normal Windows and Apps, then 6GB on A12 is more than enough. Monterey with all its bells and whistles has the same requirement as Big Sur.

macOS Big Sur - Technical Specifications - Apple Support

support.apple.com

 

[chewbaka]

But then people are going to jump on any excuse they can to howl "planned obsolescence" at the company that supports their old mobile OS devices far longer than any other mobile OS device maker on earth.

Not to mention, none of them knows what "obsolescence" means... Your old iPad still works and can complete useful, modern tasks, even without the newest software feature.