I got an M1 iPad Pro a few months ago and it stuns me how responsive it is. Makes my MacBook Pro (2015 - much older) feel like a dinosaur and my A15 iPhone 12 feel slow. The M1 iPad with magic keyboard is one of the best Apple products I have ever used. So I believe them 100% when they say the M1 is needed for what they are doing with teh iOS.
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Apple Tested Stage Manager on iPads Without M1 Chip and Wasn't Satisfied
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I think they weren't satisfied no one would be upgrading
It was 100% serious. I don’t think Apple wants to blow up the UI on that massive screen like every third party calculator does. They’d want it to float in a “normal” size window (like on Mac).
Lmao 😂
They want the iPad calculator like the Mac one. Normal size window, not blown up full screen like third party calcs do.
Oh, so they can't make a custom CALCULATOR that looks good on iPads because due to screen size?
I'm glad that's not Apple's current statement, because that sounds even more ridiculous than that sorry multitasking excuse.
What's next, discontinuing Safari because they couldn't find the right color shades?
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There are so many here that just love to whine and complain. Apparently that's the only way they can feel good about themselves and get through the day.
I am still one of those old school iPad users I guess who prefers to use it as it was originally intended. Taking into consideration I have a mix of devices I can use for variety of workloads. If I want to watch a video on a bigger screen, I can with the iPad. If I am writing long documents, I can do that from my MacBook Pro.
When I do eventually upgrade to the iPad Pro with M3, I will benefit from Stage Manager. Still on an a iPhone X here. Not missing out 5G or the larger screen.
Sounds like your an expert with a couple decades of experience. Please contact Apple ASAP and tell them what writing system software is about. THEY NEED YOUR HELP!
Yup everyone's an expert.
Whining is easy, especially if one doesn't care about embarrassing themselves on a public forum.
I'm with ya. Specifically, I want proper background multi-tasking and multi-user support.
At this point, I think Apple is getting a bit twisted up in trying to invent a new GUI paradigm and they've lost sight of an OS should really be.
Let's give Apple the benefit of the doubt and assume that their specific implementation does not work on anything less than an M1.
That just means Apple either deliberately went for an implementation of a feature a lot of users have been asking for for years that does not work on the devices of the majority of users.
It's not even a cutting edge feature, computers have been handling multiple windows for decades. The very chips in older iPads have handled multiple windows in MacOS. I simply don't believe Apple could not have found a way to implement this on frankly quite powerful machines
That just means Apple either deliberately went for an implementation of a feature a lot of users have been asking for for years that does not work on the devices of the majority of users.
It's not even a cutting edge feature, computers have been handling multiple windows for decades. The very chips in older iPads have handled multiple windows in MacOS. I simply don't believe Apple could not have found a way to implement this on frankly quite powerful machines
PLEASE. Just do it and find happiness in your life. Will you soon be voting with your wallet and purchase phones/tablets/computers from a competitor? Or is it just another day and another whine?
A solution if you don't wanna get frustrated anymore by their policy around features: Don't buy something with the hope of having a feature in a future software update. Don't buy something that doesn't deliver all you need at the time you buy it.
Multitasking was lacking to me in the 2018 iPad Pro: I didn't buy it
Multitasking was still lacking when the M1 iPad Pro came out: I still didn't buy it
Now that they have announced this feature and that I've seen exactly how it will be implemented: I like it so I might buy an M1 when iPadOS is released.
Multitasking was lacking to me in the 2018 iPad Pro: I didn't buy it
Multitasking was still lacking when the M1 iPad Pro came out: I still didn't buy it
Now that they have announced this feature and that I've seen exactly how it will be implemented: I like it so I might buy an M1 when iPadOS is released.
They haven't moved yet because they believe Apple can improve. The moment a user does move, it's very hard to win them back. But with such negative behavior from other users, not only they can eventually move, but it's one less user recommending Apple. And once negative feedback piles up, it's very hard to change.
For example, I still see many people flat out rejecting Apple for the battery issue in the iPhone 6, and I have to explain to them that you can replace the battery and battery throttling can be disabled. But that negative feedback stuck.
I have to be honest ... I don't care about this feature, neither on my Mac nor on iPad. I will continue using it as I did before, with the workflow that satisfies my needs.
I am not buying, the "other chips can't handle it" narrative, clearly, they want those who desire it, to go for more expensive models, which the M1 powered machines are. This is a marketing ploy, nothing more.
I suspect, most couldn't give a horses poop about it. My wife is a iPad Air 4 user, and really, she had absolutely 0 interest when I showed her the presentation, her comment: This will break what i did for so long and make me re-learn, i don't want it.
Wish, more attention was given to:
I am not buying, the "other chips can't handle it" narrative, clearly, they want those who desire it, to go for more expensive models, which the M1 powered machines are. This is a marketing ploy, nothing more.
I suspect, most couldn't give a horses poop about it. My wife is a iPad Air 4 user, and really, she had absolutely 0 interest when I showed her the presentation, her comment: This will break what i did for so long and make me re-learn, i don't want it.
Wish, more attention was given to:
- Mac Mail/iOS and iPad OS mail - the attachment handling is pure rubbish, with auto-previews, hate it, was forced to pay for Canary. It's ugly, it looks outdated and new features they added, don't come close to what competition offers. Canary works well with Gmail conversation view, Apple can't seem to cross that bridge.
- Calendar - looks like an app from the 90s, has a buttload of bugs that exist since when I was still pretty.
- Notes - when making a list of groceries, wish it could autodetect if a item is already on my list and suggest to "untick it", google keep does this, and as much as I hate Google, this works very well.
- Reminders - useless and pointless app, that for a life of me, i can't figure out how to and why to use after years of being in Apple ecosystem. Met very few people who actually use it, got to admit, they can't live without it, god knows why.
- Apple Music - still can't search for a song inside a playlist/Album. Painfully slow.
I consider this a non-story.
It's morons who paid full price for an iPad Pro with what was quite literally a 2-year-old chip in 2020 that are salty they aren't getting the latest features.
I'm sorry, but if your now-4-year-old chip isn't getting the latest features, I don't have much sympathy for you.
It's morons who paid full price for an iPad Pro with what was quite literally a 2-year-old chip in 2020 that are salty they aren't getting the latest features.
I'm sorry, but if your now-4-year-old chip isn't getting the latest features, I don't have much sympathy for you.
I use my ipad pro, non M, as my personal computing device. Unless you're a power user on your ipad then I don't know if you're gonna miss this feature that much and if your a power user and don't own a non ipad apple computing device might make more sense to buy/upgrade to one of the macbook airs? Then just treat the ipad as a tablet for bang for your buck maybe? I think that's the way I'd go if I needed this feature and more power.
That being said if this works well enough on the non M pros kind of annoying that Apple doesn't allow for it.
That being said if this works well enough on the non M pros kind of annoying that Apple doesn't allow for it.
You have no idea how close to the edge your non-M1 iPad is running. Apple has carefully cultivated the platform and developers to have apps run smoothly within the hardware constraints--most significantly the limited RAM but also slower RAM, slower SSD storage, and slower processors. Pretty much everything runs fine when not multitasking across the entire line of iPads.
Enter multitasking on the scale of Stage Manager and every platform but M1 sucks... if the apps don't crash.
Maybe it doesn't really need to be buttery smooth 120fps window animations with pixel-perfect shadows, at the expense of dropping still capable machines. Perhaps your requirements Apple, aren't those of your user base.
Apple cheaper out on memory for so many years. I bought the 2018 iPad Pro in 1TB to get the full 6GB RAM. They could easily make Stage Manager work just not when connected to an external display. How many people care about that feature anyways? I have my Mac for real uses with another display the iPad will never touch that.
I agree that Apple has lost the ball with this incredible hardware that just needs to run a touch-enabled MacOS version in Pro iteration. That can be the differentiation of why people that need it can buy Pro. Forget the Air and M1 argument. Pro means it does MacOS to get actual value out of the iPad Pro. They haven’t figured anything else out, and it’s time to give people their money’s worth on this MacBook Pro priced iPad Pros.
I agree that Apple has lost the ball with this incredible hardware that just needs to run a touch-enabled MacOS version in Pro iteration. That can be the differentiation of why people that need it can buy Pro. Forget the Air and M1 argument. Pro means it does MacOS to get actual value out of the iPad Pro. They haven’t figured anything else out, and it’s time to give people their money’s worth on this MacBook Pro priced iPad Pros.