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I just love all the innovative features of the upcoming iPhones: camera bumps, notches, rounded corners on displays like old CRT televisions, no headphone jacks, no Touch ID, same design as the iPhone 11, no wired headphones in the box, and no charger in the box. Tim Cook is a visionary!
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If somebody did the math on the volume of the current battery minus the volume of the camera bump, I would be curious to see what percentage of battery loss that would be? Im betting I would be ok with that battery loss in exchange for a flush camera.

Or if they are rearranging the inside (I know this is easier said than done) then find the volume of the camera bump, and translate that to extra thickness for the same battery life. Couldn’t be much more than 2-3 mm extra?
The camera module does not overlap with the battery. The cameras stick out because the module is too thick to fit in the iPhone’s case.
 
This is off topic, but while Apple may be changing the lens design in the base iPhone models, I really wish it wrap the user interface glass around the sides for the 16 pro model. At most like the Vision Pro, but at least like the watch, series 9, 45 mm. More, after the Vision Pro release, our flat user interfaces on the iPhones seem inert.
 
If Apple really wants to do stereoscopic video, they should also increase the effective pupillary distance.

They could do this partially across the width, or seriously down the length.

I wonder if we'll see that 2nd camera move farther away from the first.

Here is how that might look on the 15 Pro:

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It's still a tumor I wish wasn't there. Considering how fugly most (not all) iPhone photos look with the gross over-processing, I can't imagine there being much difference if the z-height was shrunk to fit in the device's chassis again. Or make the rest of it thicker. Either way. Weight shouldn't be too much of an issue since the phone should be the size of a so-called mini anyway #GotEm.

That’s why it’s only a matter of time before the point and shoot camera makes a comeback amongst enthusiast photographers.
 
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Yes. Apple has abused “computational photography” for years now. The images iPhone produces are just weird looking most of the time.

It really is bothering me lately
It makes people just look “off”

I wish they’d allow you to turn all that off and still use the stock camera app

This is why I need a smaller iPhone SE again at some point…hopefully that is too dumb and underpowered to do the garbage computational photo nonsense.
 
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I have pretty much accepted in the foreseeable future camera bumps on phones will all be various forms of ugly.

If anything I find iPhone camera bumps somewhat less ugly than others. Google Pixel 8 metal visor is the worst imho and I really don’t like that weird 4 button look of Samsung S24 ultra either. All very subjective of course.
 
Interesting to see the design. Looking forward to hearing more about the colours. Hopefully they are bright. The colours on the 15 are very muted.
 
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If you’re a photographer, I have a question. How good is spatial video shot from two disparate cameras like this? Won’t there always be a slight mismatch between left and right?
Not an expert in this, but it will most likely yes have a mismatch. That's where software comes in and tries to correct for that. No different than parallax error when we pan and make panoramas. Software is incredibly powerful in adapting for that though.

As a photographer, you want to use a real camera.

The best camera is the one on you. It's far easier to carry an iPhone than a full frame camera everywhere. Also photography on smartphones in many cases is more than good enough.

The size of the lens is why we have the camera improvements we’ve gotten

Actual camera sensor technology is moving at a snail’s pace these days, if you made the camera/lens the size of the one on the iPhone 6s, the image quality wouldn’t be that much better than a 6s

They need the bigger lens for a bigger aperture for a bigger sensor. Better cameras sell phones, as long as they still fit in people’s pockets/bags

Edit-also AI HDR/multiple exposures has helped, and is super impressive, but they still look a little off to me compared to single exposure photography from an actual camera
Size of sensor is part of the improvements, but I'd argue multiple image stacking as Google has shown with HDR+ computational photography is actually the bigger improvement. That's why even older Pixels with smaller sensors can still keep up in amazing Night Sight photos. The iPhone tends to be lighter on computational photography, so it may benefit more from larger sensors.

No shot these days is single shot and has not been for ages on the iPhone. It's all stacked photography nowadays.
 
Does anyone else notice how massively over processed the images seem to be coming out of modern iPhones?

I guess it’s good to have a ‘dream’ but I wish Apple would add the ability to allow us to turn things like Smart HDR on/off etc - I don’t know about anyone else but I really hate the times the photo looks acceptable and the processing kicks in and it looks “meh”.

Appreciate there are third party apps etc but adding a few more manual controls in the stock camera app wouldn’t go amiss, either.
 
If they really have spatial video in mind, shouldn't those two cameras be much further apart? As I understand, spatial video at the moment only really looks 3D if the subject is less than five feet or so away. That distance could grow if the cameras were further apart. Ideally as far apart as the human eyes.
 
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