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It's obvious for any photographer. A smaller camera is never better. You want the largest possible sensor, lens, etc. I don't get this obsession.

Most iPhone users aren't photographers. They're not even tech savvy, that's why they got iPhones. LOL.

Go back to iPhone 5-sized small cameras if you want and continue to get outshot by Pixel phones if you want no camera bump.
Dumb take; that's basically saying wanting a flush camera lens is unreasonable. It's reasonable, it's been done before, it can be done again. No need for the typical Apple condescending attitude.
 
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The camera module does not overlap with the battery. The cameras stick out because the module is too thick to fit in the iPhone’s case.
You're correct, I was thinking that the battery was behind the cameras for some reason. Should have looked that up before commenting.
 
Difference is LED flash placement and camera plateau design, per Huawei.
If your going to split hairs like that, then Huawei has a completely different design with the flash on the camera plateau(Which was copied from Apple from 2017), and the new rumored design has the camera flash on the body of the phone. and Huawei has like 4 camera lenses on that thing.
 
If your going to split hairs like that, then Huawei has a completely different design with the flash on the camera plateau(Which was copied from Apple from 2017), and the new rumored design has the camera flash on the body of the phone. and Huawei has like 4 camera lenses on that thing.

Nah, Mate 9 came out with the camera pill design in 2016. You can see Apple took that design for iPhone X in 2017.

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It should also be obvious for any photographer that the difference in glass between an iPhone and a regular camera is an uncrossable gap. Even a tiny 100g lens would be way too heavy for a phone. Huge sensor is fine.

The bokeh quality of my 14 Pro Max is the worst I have seen; worse than any kit lens. I suppose the reason I notice it with this phone is because it is actually possible to put something out of focus.

Instead of bulking up the optical equipment, smartphones are better served by using techniques like stacking and AI.
Of course the 14 PM's bokeh wont' compare to a true full frame camera. But at a 1/1.3" sensor size, it will have far more noticeable bokeh than a tiny sensor like back in the iPhone 6 days. 1/1.3" is what... a 3x-ish crop factor? I'd take getting some depth of field in my photos than practically nothing from those tiny smartphone cameras that were like 7-8x crop factor.
 
Probably a dumb question, but can you map the lock screen camera activation swipe/button to a 3rd party camera App?
 
Can we stop with the “shifted plans” nonsense MR? It’s been nearly two decades. It’s common knowledge that when manufacturing tens of millions of anything a quarter your designs are LOCKED in at least a year in advance.

Tooling equipment doesn’t magically appear in the week before production starts.
 
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Make the damn phone thicker and eliminate the bump entirely. Fill the extra space with battery. Christ, who hires these designers?
 
Nah, Mate 9 came out with the camera pill design in 2016. You can see Apple took that design for iPhone X in 2017.

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What is that cutout on the right of the pill shape? Another lens? Also its not in the same place, and if it just has to be the pill shape, I phone 7 Plus had the Pill shape, in September of 2016.
 
Most iPhone users aren't photographers. They're not even tech savvy, that's why they got iPhones. LOL.


Dumb take; that's basically saying wanting a flush camera lens is unreasonable. It's reasonable, it's been done before, it can be done again. No need for the typical Apple condescending attitude.
Flush camera is nice to have but to have a flush camera with a large sensor/lens you would just have a massive brick. The camera adds about 50% in thickness where the phone would be 13mm thick.
 
A company like Apple will have had the design of their devices dialled in years before launch. They’re probably internally working on the iPhone 19 right now. Whatever chassis the 16 is coming in was decided long ago.
I suspect everything at Apple software and hardware related is just in time now. They are pushing their engineers and programmers to the limit of what can be done to meet this ridiculous need to have something new to talk about EVERY year. Marketing is calling the shots now, not the engineers.
 
What’s old is new again.

sorry I’m not gonna check the entire thread to see if someone already said it
 
Probably a dumb question, but can you map the lock screen camera activation swipe/button to a 3rd party camera App?
Sorry, not possible. If you have a 15 Pro, you can map the action button to a shortcut to launch any app, including a 3rd party camera app.
 
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