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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Apple. Release the usual 3.5 and another 4.3 inch super thin version. See how many buy the 3.5 version
 
This is just what Gruber made up not what Apple is doing. No one at Apple that actually know what is going on is talking, and those sources people talk to get their info from reading the blogs which just make up stuff. Look at what happened last year, everybody was sure the new iPhone was going to be a teardrop case with a 4" screen, and it never happened. All the sources were wrong.

The next iPhone design would have already been finalized by now and parts manufactures are already tooling up and production of the parts will start soon or they will never get it out the door by October. They may be testing different screen sizes but they will not change the aspect ratio and stuff they are still testing now will not be produced this year.

It would be stupid to change the aspect ratio and not increase the screen width. All it would do is create backwards comparability issues with new apps being developed for the extra height that would not work on older phones without side boxing which actually makes the screen width even narrower on older phones for those newer apps. And all existing apps would have to be boxed top and bottom until rewritten. It makes no sense at all, there is no advantage except a marketing blurb to say it has a larger screen, without really being larger and Apple does not work that way.



Gruber is no ordinary source. He never once believed in a redesigned iPhone last year. And as I said, he says if they change the screen size… If. Then this is how they would do it
 
thought - Ios could set up apps to use a black frame - like SD res. on a wide screen TV. That'd lets "old" apps work without everyone freakin' out about needing to update their apps.

That doesn’t meant the dev’s don’t have to start working harder to accommodate yet another res. I lot of them wont even make an ipad version of their apps. Look at Google+, a huge company puts out an iphone only version and the 2X looks like crap.
 
That mini connector is a game breaker for me. Seems pointless to invalidate the ten or so cables I have (car, truck, RV, 1 per room, recharching dock/alarm clock, etc). What would be the point of this?

Technology changes. Deal with it. Were you complaining when we moved from RCA cables to HDMI? They are making the connector small to free up space for other things.

Also if you need to have 10 cables so you don't have to lug the cable around that's your problem.
 
Because Micro-USB is less capable than the 30-pin iPod connector (A USB to HDMI adaptor for example would not be feasible)

Most high-end android phones support micro USB to HDMI, it is called MHL feature.

I think the main problem with having the aspect ratio change now is that Apple still has not released a method for delivering device/resolution specific application bundles. Adding more aspect ratios would cause application bundles to continually grow unnecessarily in size. While a small shift may not change that many applications, there are quite a few I can imagine which would have to add more graphic variations. This is only if the developers have programmed their applications correctly.

I think you are right, I think Apple unlike Android is using bitmap for graphics. So a dev have to load different img files to take account of different screen resolution, which make the app size bigger than it should be.
 
They're just saying that to avoid negative comments about Tim Cook's engineering strategies and talents. Also, saying that Steve had input on this design will boost sales when the phone is released. You can't believe every rumor you hear or every book you read.

And essentially you just created your own rumor. But you're right, I don't have to believe every rumor I hear, I'll just stick with the rumors that are most-likely true.
 
This shouldn't be hard for developers, anything that is sized to the current screen will simply have a bar of unused space at the bottom.

I bet the unused space will use a "linen" background. :eek:
 
I agree that the 30-pin connector is more capable then the Micro-USB, but that's not what my post was about. I was saying, if they are changing it, then why are they making a new type? Either keep the same old port, or change it to either Mini or Micro USB. Don't make a new type.

The problem would be finding an existing, small port that is capable of the speeds Apple may be going for. I think also somebody recently made a statement about wanting to "own all integral technologies" and less on licensing, in regards to Mapping - but the same could apply with Hardware - A smaller port would also be pretty great as then they may finally put stereo speakers on the bottom.
 
Changing the height only makes it very easy to deal with for most apps. In fact, because of the way Cocoa Touch is designed, many existing apps should "just work" at the new height.

Changing the width, on the other hand, would be significantly more complicated.

You do not know what you are talking about. Changing the Aspect Ratio causes much more problems than just enlarging the screen with the same number of pixels. If you make everything larger to scale, nothing needs to be done to the Apps. You loose a little density of the pixels but you do not affect the Apps.

Changing the Aspect Ratio goofs up 90% of the Apps. You have to black box top and bottom and you end up with the same size screen as you had before. Then when Apps are altered or written for the new Aspect Ratio they don't work on the older phones without side black boxing making them even smaller than they were before.
 
The problem would be finding an existing, small port that is capable of the speeds Apple may be going for. I think also somebody recently made a statement about wanting to "own all integral technologies" and less on licensing, in regards to Mapping - but the same could apply with Hardware - A smaller port would also be pretty great as then they may finally put stereo speakers on the bottom.

Ah, I see. Makes sense.
 
That doesn’t meant the dev’s don’t have to start working harder to accommodate yet another res. I lot of them wont even make an ipad version of their apps. Look at Google+, a huge company puts out an iphone only version and the 2X looks like crap.

I don't know if Google is the best example though, considering they are just now coming around to the idea that it's a good idea to design apps specifically for Android tablets.
 
I agree that the 30-pin connector is more capable then the Micro-USB, but that's not what my post was about. I was saying, if they are changing it, then why are they making a new type? Either keep the same old port, or change it to either Mini or Micro USB. Don't make a new type.

Because they wouldn't want the new port to be less capable than the old port?

But, it doesn't. I just said that.
"The common chargers will be based around micro-USB technology and could see the end of proprietary power ports on handsets."(From the BBC link)
The EU require either
1. For you to have a micro-USB port, and, naturally a Micro-USB charger.
2. To provide an adapter so people can use standard chargers to charge the phone.

I'm confused by your replies. So if you're saying the adapter is optional and the charger meets the standards, then what are you saying the EU requires?

The MoU allows for USB-A on the charger and makes no requirements for the actual port on the device. See the following links in the comments from an article linked to by the the article you posted (or any of the threads on MacRumors about this topic.)

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/09/28/will-new-iphone-designs-include-europes-common-charger/#aolc=A-Fzww
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/09/28/will-new-iphone-designs-include-europes-common-charger/#aolc=A-FzQw
 
IIRC, Apple (or at least Steve) more than once stated that fragmentation is one of Android's biggest problems. I don't think they would go that route for such a minor amount of additional screen real estate.

The only way I could imagine them doing this is if they reserved the additional space for a fixed bar unusable for apps. They could use it for notifications or a home button replacement or something.
But even that doesn't seem very likely to me.

I like the current size. I think a longer case would probably look weird.
 
That's interesting...I used a 4" Windows Phone this weekend and typed on it (Portrait orientation) and it made a world of difference compared to my iPhone. Wish Apple would increase the iPhone vertically and horizontally.

Especially if you're using your iPhone in landscape to type in iMessage, you only see one line of the other person's text. It would be nice to see more than that...

Exactly what I was thinking. Increasing the screen in height only does nothing to help typing accuracy on that tiny onscreen keyboard. If they increased it to 4" while keeping the same aspect ratio the width of the phone would be only slightly wider, almost imperceptible. I hope this rumor is false.
 
I am not saying it shouldn't be 1138 but isn't this nitpicking.

1138 / 16 = 71.125
1136 / 16 = 71
640 / 9 = 71.11111

And it's only 2 Pixel difference, they are so small you won't even see them.


I would prefer the new iPhone to be wider and have the same aspect ratio than a taller iPhone.

yeah i was also wondering this but 71x9 = 639. That means they only loose one pixel line when displaying video content, which isnt visible without a microscope.
 
I think apple should keep it simple and move to a 2 phone model. Give us a redesigned 3.5 with new ios for those who want keep the small phone. Have a new resolution on the phone that achieves 1080p with no scaling that gives a new and improved "retina" display. Im not a resolution expert so I don't know what that would be but they can figure that out. Then give a 2nd phone with a 4.5 screen with a resolution that is even better giving us "2x Retina" or whatever they want to call it. I think that on both phones, those resolutions should be closer to industry standards if there is such a thing. For instance in tvs, there is 1280x720 which is universally recognized as 720p and 1920x1080 which is 1080. If its possible i would like to see the 3.5 with a standard 1080 reso and the 4.5 with a 3840x2160 reso. Might be just wishful thinking.
 
Technology changes. Deal with it. Were you complaining when we moved from RCA cables to HDMI? They are making the connector small to free up space for other things.

Also if you need to have 10 cables so you don't have to lug the cable around that's your problem.

A cable is nothing. What about all the $$$ devices that use the dock connector?
 
GROSS! Why even type that?

I lol'ed. Seriously, that would be horrible.

I still don't like that it's just taller. I mean, it's a fairly narrow screen already. And typing in landscape already takes up practically all of the screen. Meh... if it were up to me I'd make it a bit wider, either keeping the aspect ratio the same or making it closer to 16:9.

Still, I'm planning to upgrade this year lol.
 
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