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I have an overheating issue with the 15 pro max when charging from the MagSafe battery. The set gets super hot very fast and stops charging. Happens even in air conditioned spaces.
 
Can't wait for them to nuke the performance even though they claim they won't. Iphone 15 is off to a hot start (pun intended)
 
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This smells like a big turd. The Apple playbook in the past has been to throttle performance. The chip in the iPhone 15 is the same chip used in the 14 pro. Apple has some splaining to do. That's a big oops to get past QC.
 
I’m sure Apple’s fix to this is to simply tone down the CPU clock speeds which in turn will knock a few degrees off the temp. So in a way, it will have 14 Pro speed instead of the new speed the chip launched with.

I don’t like it, seems a lazy fix to me and why neuter the chip at all? Because a few phones ran a little warm? Mine is fine and I can definitely see a perceptible difference in fluidity and snappiness between my 15 PM and my old 14 PM and I’m quite enjoying it.

So I’m gonna hold up on the “update” for now. I don’t want it if it’s going to nerf my new phone.
 
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Apple plans to release an iOS 17 update to address a bug that may contribute to the reported iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max overheating issue, according to a statement the company shared today with MacRumors and Forbes reporter David Phelan.

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Apple also says some recent updates to third-party apps have overloaded the system and contributed to the overheating issue. The report notes that some of these apps include Instagram, Uber, and the racing game Asphalt 9: Legends, and Apple is working with the developers of these apps to address the issue. The report adds that Instagram already introduced a fix as part of an update to the app released on Wednesday.

Apple says iPhone 15 Pro models may run warmer than expected during the first few days after setting up or restoring the device due to increased background activity. This is standard behavior for new iPhones and only a temporary condition.

Apple's statement:The bug should be fixed with iOS 17.1, which is currently in beta and is expected to be released in late October. It's quite possible that Apple might also make a bug fix available sooner with a smaller software update, such as iOS 17.0.3.

According to the report, Apple will not be reducing the performance of the A17 Pro chip as part of the temperature-related bug fix. Apple also said the issue is not a safety risk and will not impact the long-term performance of affected iPhones.

Apple said the iPhone 15 Pro's titanium frame and aluminum substructure do not contribute to the overheating issue, ruling out a hardware problem.

Not all iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max users have experienced overheating, and it's unclear how many customers are affected by the issue overall, but it should be resolved soon.

Article Link: Apple to Address iPhone 15 Pro Overheating Issue With iOS 17 Update

“How Now Brown Cow?!”

Every person in these forum who flamed iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max owners who constructively reported their own personal experiences of abnormal overheating issues owes them an apology.

(But each is probably too big of a baby to do so.)

There’s a place online for flaming people, and it’s called Twitter or “X.”

Some owners even wrote that their iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max froze altogether with the “On Hold” “…will resume when iPhone returns to normal temperature” on-screen message but were still called babies and technology-illiterate.

(Explain away that event and on-screen message and deny people their own personal experiences!)

I just hope Apple’s fix is not to permanently “tune down” the A17 Pro’s overall performance — a blunt approach to prevent overheating and thermal throttling (but would ultimately work). That would be a shame.

Apple finally reported the abnormal overheating issue itself and said it occurred on some 15 Pro models when using a small number of third party apps, so I hope it’s a fix like Apple’s software fix for a relatively small number of iPhone 14 models that suffered violent OIS shaking of the camera sensor module when also running a small number of third party apps.

That fix didn’t cripple overall performance in any way, and I hope/expect the same will be true for this fix.
 
I wonder if the update will throttle the phone, making it slower. It will be interesting to see the speed tests.

All in all this not a good launch for the 15 series.
It literally says it wont.. software bugs unrelated to the new CPU which affected all iPhones
 
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I’m sure Apple’s fix to this is to simply tone down the CPU clock speeds which in turn will knock a few degrees off the temp. So in a way, it will have 14 Pro speed instead of the new speed the chip launched with.

I don’t like it, seems a lazy fix to me and why neuter the chip at all? Because a few phones ran a little warm? Mine is fine and I can definitely see a perceptible difference in fluidity and snappiness between my 15 PM and my old 14 PM and I’m quite enjoying it.

So I’m gonna hold up on the “update” for now. I don’t want it if it’s going to nerf my new phone.
It’s incredible how few people bother to read before commenting
 
Oh ok. Wasn’t sure that it really turned out to a broken camera after it happened… sad to hear this.
In general I think it’s safe to say to not buy a new iPhone day1 anymore if you really want to be safe and you rely heavily on the phone. It’s the best to wait until the iOS .1 release of the current OS.
Yeah, I actually used the defective phone all year because I don’t really use the camera. But when I did have to use it it was atrocious. So I send it to repair just a day before the one year warranty expired and apple replaced the rear camera system, the true depth camera and they even replaced the battery lol. Seems like there was a lot wrong with the phone.
 
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Apple never says what size RAM is in these iPhones but it is rumored to be 6gb or less. A design limitation that goes all the way back to the ARM license Apple has. So definitely as design problem if only 6gb or less.
 
They should have fixed this years ago. Lot of live-streaming apps overheat the device that kills the battery. Since 16.4 they fixed that and the live-streaming apps work cool to the touch. No priority I guess cause this generates battery replacement revenues.
 
Think it's really a hardware issue but Apple has couched it as a software and 3rd party offending apps issue. Imagine if it were a hardware issue, then perhaps millions of 15s would have to be recalled.

Perhaps some phone have offending hardware parts and they will be the ones who will have their performance throttled. Those that are pristine, won't be affected by 17.1.
 
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Seems like the conspiracy theorists are working overtime. They have gone from faulty A17 chip design to flawed titanium heat dissipation to “now Apple will surely throttle the performance of the iPhone to compensate”, flitting from one piece of misinformation to the next like a butterfly with ADHD.

Like if you were really concerned, why not simply wait for the truth, instead of fanning the flames?

And instead of calling out these lies, the public just goes along with the next rumour to get all hysterical over.

But hey, it’s Macrumours, so I am not sure why I continue to be surprised that this is happening.
 
To be fair - iOS 17 has been in beta for quite some time and I don't remember any reports with overheating issues...

So - it may be quite hard to find out these bugs when even developer and public beta users would not experience them. (i.e. the bug is limited to the iPhone 15 Pro lineup, so quite limited options to test all scenarios for Apple)

The iPhone 15 models were all in extremely limited testing due to Apples very closed new product development culture. This is nothing new but issues like this appearing on launch of a new product is exactly the sort of thing that would have been caught if they had professional testers doing the evaluations rather than handfuls of internal engineers.

For example. The BMW wireless charging issue would have been caught with a broader program or a professional testing company.

And before anyone argues against this please consider I’ve been doing exactly this sort of work for almost 30 years in the very same industry as Apple. And yes I’ve worked with them as well. I’m just not impressed with their inflexible approach after so many years of quite fortunate success.
 
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Think it's really a hardware issue but Apple has couched it as a software and 3rd party offending apps issue. Imagine if it were a hardware issue, then perhaps millions of 15s would have to be recalled.

Perhaps some phone have offending hardware parts and they will be the ones who will have their performance throttled. Those that are pristine, won't be affected by 17.1.

How does one find out if a new “run of production” of iPhone 15 Pros has happened — not the initial batch after launch where the overheating issue presented itself on some production models?

If Apple swaps out a supplier’s component for a different one which fixes the problem, how would a consumer know from what batch their iPhone 15 Pro came?

Apple’s not gonna tell…

(Maybe Ming-Chi Kuo can find out.)
 
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Seems like the conspiracy theorists are working overtime. They have gone from faulty A17 chip design to flawed titanium heat dissipation to “now Apple will surely throttle the performance of the iPhone to compensate”, flitting from one piece of misinformation to the next like a butterfly with ADHD.

Like if you were really concerned, why not simply wait for the truth, instead of fanning the flames?

And instead of calling out these lies, the public just goes along with the next rumour to get all hysterical over.

But hey, it’s Macrumours, so I am not sure why I continue to be surprised that this is happening.

Yeah, your last sentence…
 
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Seems like the conspiracy theorists are working overtime. They have gone from faulty A17 chip design to flawed titanium heat dissipation to “now Apple will surely throttle the performance of the iPhone to compensate”, flitting from one piece of misinformation to the next like a butterfly with ADHD.

Like if you were really concerned, why not simply wait for the truth, instead of fanning the flames?

And instead of calling out these lies, the public just goes along with the next rumour to get all hysterical over.

But hey, it’s Macrumours, so I am not sure why I continue to be surprised that this is happening.

Please try and consider an equivalency here. If Ford sold a new electric car that was stalling on the road with hundreds of individual buyers complaining of the exact same scenario where the battery gets too hot for some of its engine components and so the motor would shut down leaving drivers stranded.

Then other people’s car stereos begin to break due to the charging systems they are using causing other heat related issues…. It would be a massive embarrassment to say the least. And Ford’s stock would take a hit and the investors would be all over the CEO’s rear end to get it fixed immediately.

This is very much the same sort of situation.

Rumors are one thing, but major news outlets like Forbes and all the others who have picked up on stories like these are massively, hugely embarrassing to Apple who is a publicly traded company.

Even macrumors.com is now a major news outlet. It’s no longer the little niche enthusiasts website it once was over a decade and a half ago.

Feel free to debate the finer points of the issues but try not to trash the news sources as this just erodes the credibility of comments in such scenarios.
 
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The iPhone 15 models were all in extremely limited testing due to Apples very closed new product development culture. This is nothing new but issues like this appearing on launch of a new product is exactly the sort of thing that would have been caught if they had professional testers doing the evaluations rather than handfuls of internal engineers.

For example. The BMW wireless charging issue would have been caught with a broader program or a professional testing company.

And before anyone argues against this please consider I’ve been doing exactly this sort of work for almost 30 years in the very same industry as Apple. And yes I’ve worked with them as well. I’m just not impressed with their inflexible approach after so many years of quite fortunate success.

To your very point, last year, some iPhone 14 production models suffered a defect where OIS would violently shake the camera sensor under certain conditions — even damaging some phones! (Apple was able to fix it with a software update.)

This year, some iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max production models suffer acute overheating issues.

A better, non-rushed Quality Assurance process would’ve prevented either from ever getting out into the supply chain at all.
 
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“How Now Brown Cow?!”

Every person in these forum who flamed iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max owners who constructively reported their own personal experiences of abnormal overheating issues owes them an apology.

(But each is probably too big of a baby to do so.)

There’s a place online for flaming people, and it’s called Twitter or “X.”

Some owners even wrote that their iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max froze altogether with the “On Hold” “…will resume when iPhone returns to normal temperature” on-screen message but were still called babies and technology-illiterate.

(Explain away that event and on-screen message and deny people their own personal experiences!)

I just hope Apple’s fix is not to permanently “tune down” the A17 Pro’s overall performance — a blunt approach to prevent overheating and thermal throttling (but would ultimately work). That would be a shame.

Apple finally reported the abnormal overheating issue itself and said it occurred on some 15 Pro models when using a small number of third party apps, so I hope it’s a fix like Apple’s software fix for a relatively small number of iPhone 14 models that suffered violent OIS shaking of the camera sensor module when also running a small number of third party apps.

That fix didn’t cripple overall performance in any way, and I hope/expect the same will be true for this fix.
1,000% agree with you. The tone of these forums has changed so much over the years. It makes one question if some of the comments are from genuine consumers or corporate plants. (Not accusing anyone but it does seem awfully suspect given the circumstances.)
 
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