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Yes, that was the huge topic around the release of the 14 models.
Yeah, they tweaked the software to stop it from happening but once you had it you had a defective phone. It happened to me and that’s why I decided to wait this year. My iPhone 14 Pro had to be replaced because the camera didn’t work as intended according to apple.
 
My 15 Pro Max has been noticeably warmer than my 14 Pro Max. Even on simple stuff like a phone call (not just streaming HD video like their support app suggests when I searched it). Battery is also dying quicker. Glad to see Apple is aware and addressing it.
 
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In my opinion people aren’t dismissing the issue. They’re dismissing the characterization of the issue as being catastrophic for the customer and Apple. My iPhone got warm enough during restore from iCloud to pause for maybe 30 minutes. If that’s as bad as it gets and Apple issues a software fix then we can all move on. If you’ve never written code professionally then you probably can’t appreciate the complexity both in terms of writing and testing. To expect bug free code is unrealistic no matter how expensive you think the iPhone is.
I agree that some issues are blown out of proportion, especially after a software update that is still continuing its background tasks as the device is in use. Take a look at posts where someone brings up an issue, it usually follows along the “it’s not happening to me, therefore it doesn’t exist or you’re doing something wrong”. Or some sarcastic comment that doesn’t help.

We are consumers who are buying into a product or service for a hefty price. Of course there will be bugs, but there is a threshold of how many and how severe it is to the user experience. It doesn’t matter how complex something is, it’s not our problem. Apple needs better qa
 
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@AWebDevTech, thank you for this write up. You saved me a lot of time, and did a much better job that I would have.

What we are seeing here is a fascinating yet disturbing mirror of society at large. We have it all here - passive aggressiveness, conspiracy theorists, trolls, pure idiocy - all of the above drowning in a barrel full of Dunning-Kruger effect.

I won’t pretend that this and other posts here can change some of those attitudes. But at minimum, please be just a bit more informed: The hardware and software involved in modern phones is incredibly complex. Tiny bugs can cause major effects, like the one we’ve seen in this case. So complex are the interactions between thousands of components and software libraries, that it is surprising that these phones run bug free for 99.99% of the time.

My recommendation, shall you choose to adopt it, is to be grateful for the marvel of technology that extremely talented engineers have created, and be slightly more patient when experiencing the rare bug. It will be fixed.

Thank you for your reply and your positive feedback! Quite frankly, I have been losing faith and interest in continuing to volunteer my time helping people out with tech questions/issues on (other) tech blog comment sections/support websites because of the recent rapid shift a majority seems to be making to low effort responses, the inability to comprehend short, simple articles like this one and ESPECIALLY ignoring custom instructions on fixing their own tech disaster. Help me... help you. The many comments on this article hoping that Apple doesn't release a patch that causes throttling limitations after it was very clearly stated that they would NOT do so is depressing when you see that kinda thing over and over, day after day. All due to the excellent societal observations you wrote about.

Like you, I'm very critical of the conspiracies and entitlement issues that seem to permeate the whole of EVERY topic, no matter how benign or blatantly impossible these takes are. It also appears to be dumbing people down just by its mere presence. This aspect is made worse by the relatively recent introduction of foreign agitators/actors/AI bots, like what has been going on with YouTube/Twitter over the last few years.

What I hope to accomplish, like with my previous comment and maybe this one, is to encourage people to do as you mentioned - be more informed and to do their own research... to actually investigate to find the truth and not settle on a single source or draw a conclusion without all the facts. Objectivity. As cliche as this sounds, if I can inspire even just one person to adopt a more cautious and investigatory attitude towards things (and stop recycling sketchy opinions they find by anonymous internet users/content creators), that would make me happy.
 
My 15 pro max has been cool. Battery life is an improvement. Only the first night was slightly warm when 300k photos were sync.
 
But I can and do browse Instagram for long-ish periods on my 13 Pro Max using iOS 17 with no overheating. In fact I never get overheating. So how is this anything but a 15 hardware issue?
Different hardware reacts differently with software. Some devices will utilize resources differently than others.
 
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This was a well written rebuttal to the issues that have been raised by many folks here and on enthusiast blogs. And, you seem like someone who has some technical knowledge.

Given what you've seen so far, if you were someone who keeps their iPhone for 4 or 5 years, would you buy this phone or would you downgrade to the 15 plus?

Thank you very much Sully, I am impressed I actually received TWO replies praising my earlier comment breakdown list - I didn't really anticipate that. As far as seeming like I have tech knowledge, I do... but just so I don't misrepresent anything - I majored in a relevant IT field in college, previously owned a web development/marketing/computer repair company, and now currently hold an IT position in the education industry where I manage third party system issues and upgrade projects. I am NOT involved in the smart phone/telecommunications industry.

Okay... with that disclaimer out of the way, I actually keep my phones two-three years on average as well, so you want to know what I did here? This is going to seem CRAZY to a lot of the people here... but I went to my phone carrier THREE days before the iPhone 15 released and upgraded from a vanilla iPhone 12 to an iPhone 14 Pro Max (mainly for the camera but also since I really needed more storage lol). So short/direct answer, I would NOT personally buy the iPhone 15 - any flavor of it... I would and will skip it entirely. There's not enough upgrades to warrant doing so (unless you're looking to take advantage of Apple's push for game studios to release their mainline console titles on the App Store - even still, I would get an iPad with an M1 chip for that). My unbroken rule is that I NEVER upgrade to the newest model - ESPECIALLY at the time of release. Not only will you get overcharged, possibly wait in long lines, possibly deal with backorders, receive subpar tech support due to all the overwhelmed techs, but you'll bear the brunt of bugs like this situation here and all the ones that don't get patched for the first six months or so. Though personally, functionality/stability trumps the newest phone social stigma. 🤷‍

I really hope that helps you decide, I apologize that my answer turned into a book - I know some people don't want all the thought process and details.
 
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This whole thing(having a war of word on each other) reminds me so much of the movie Carnage 2011 . Who's going to be the one that share 18 yr scotch and cigar ? I really like to see who will, and what is going to be thrown on the floor at the end.
 

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Spot the trend. Last year's iPhone 14 camera shake bug was related to Instagram. This year's overheating bug is related to Instagram.
 
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Funny to see articles wanting Apple to recall the devices because they become hot…this is always an issue when releasing a new iOS…I also have notice my 14 Pro Max battery life go drastically down since I upstaged to iOS 17.
 
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So I have had mine in a case since I got it. I have had horrible lagging issues with the phone. Won't connect to CarPlay. All kinds of stuff. Reset it tonight and setup as a new phone. I decided to take it out of my case while I watched the football game and performed the reset. This thing is so hot I cannot hold the phone. It is LITERALLY burning my hand. I have it on my stand that has a cooler built in and hoping that will cool it off a bit. Hopefully this bug is fixed quickly.
 
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But Fanboyndo said it was the Instagram app.

And MKBHD also said that the only time his 15 Pro Max got ridiculously hot was when he was doing several things, including browsing Instagram.

I hate IG, and open the app maybe once or twice a month (not yet with the 15 Pro). I also have not experienced the phone getting hot at all.

Coincidence? Probably not.
 
This whole thing(having a war of word on each other) reminds me so much of the movie Carnage 2011 . Who's going to be the one that share 18 yr scotch and cigar ? I really like to see who will, and what is going to be thrown on the floor at the end.

Awesome picture!
 
Is this like the bending thing where the phone would bend if you tried to bend it on purpose?
Absolutely true. Tabloid media report that "new iPhone breaks easily" then posts a link to some YouTuber running over it in a steamroller.
 


Apple plans to release an iOS 17 update to address a bug that may contribute to the reported iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max overheating issue, according to a statement the company shared today with MacRumors and Forbes reporter David Phelan.

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Apple also says some recent updates to third-party apps have overloaded the system and contributed to the overheating issue. The report notes that some of these apps include Instagram, Uber, and the racing game Asphalt 9: Legends, and Apple is working with the developers of these apps to address the issue. The report adds that Instagram already introduced a fix as part of an update to the app released on Wednesday.

Apple says iPhone 15 Pro models may run warmer than expected during the first few days after setting up or restoring the device due to increased background activity. This is standard behavior for new iPhones and only a temporary condition.

Apple's statement:The bug should be fixed with iOS 17.1, which is currently in beta and is expected to be released in late October. It's quite possible that Apple might also make a bug fix available sooner with a smaller software update, such as iOS 17.0.3.

According to the report, Apple will not be reducing the performance of the A17 Pro chip as part of the temperature-related bug fix. Apple also said the issue is not a safety risk and will not impact the long-term performance of affected iPhones.

Apple said the iPhone 15 Pro's titanium frame and aluminum substructure do not contribute to the overheating issue, ruling out a hardware problem.

Not all iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max users have experienced overheating, and it's unclear how many customers are affected by the issue overall, but it should be resolved soon.

Article Link: Apple to Address iPhone 15 Pro Overheating Issue With iOS 17 Update
I’ve found a lot of the reporting (in general, not macrumors) on this issue to be completely idiotic, blaming the titanium for the heating which made absolutely no logical sense. If the hardware was hindrance to heat dissipation, you’d feel LESS heat in the hand not more! Because through the body is how heat is dissipated.. the explanations of the "analyst" were so backwards.

Figured it was just some software bugs in iOS 17 and in Instagram etc.. some apps have updates that often make them run extremely poorly, rhe devs don’t test optimization nearly enough.. because the new phones run so fast they just get lazy and write crappy code which are only noticeable on old phones or with the heating issue on new ones.

Anyway glad it’s been resolved, it’s all been hugely overblown as usual.
 
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