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I like this rumor.

Maybe the MacBook Air will receive the carbon fibre treatment in conjunction with the faster SFF Penryn CPUs coming next year (SFF Nehalem seems to be Q3 2010 or so...).
 
when are they making a lighter iPhone ?

I just hope they can make iPhone out of this.

That sucker weighs a tonne. It's heaver than my old phone and Nano combined... sure they didn't have GPS, but it's like walking around with a lead sinker in my pocket.

Remember the 'plastic' 3G back that wouldn't BLEND ? Did anyone find out what that was made of ?
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As for why would they change the Air manufacturing process? If the unibody is such a commercial advantage, they'd only publicise it when they had the next thing ready to go.
 
I am not a materials engineer, as a previous poster is...

but if I remember correctly, carbon fibers not only do conduct heat, but also conduct electricity. Resin or epoxy coatings may insulate it, but I hope it insulates well... otherwise the case could do more than simply shock the user, as some aluminum and titanium laptops already have.

They could actually short out components, or create grounding problems.

Personally, I have a different approach.

Don't make parts sacrificially lighter. Make the computer have fewer PARTS.

Take the screen shell off the MBA, invert it, take the screen out of it, and take the keyboard and trackpad surface off.

Then you have the bottom of the case, the PCBs and components inside it, and an LCD screen. Discard keyboard, trackpad, hinge, screen shell, palm rest, and anything else not needed to make a computer work.

ADD a multitouch element to the screen. And a tempered, hardened glass surface, and mount it face up, where the keyboard used to be.

TABLET MBA. With bluetooth, the apple bluetooth keyboard will work with it. They could even come up with an ingenous way to clip them together for transport or use. Otherwise it is a multitouch full-OS 12-13 inch (or possibly even morphed into a smaller ~10" format, or both.) tablet PC, with extensible capabilities.

With an SSD, and no optical drive, it would have no moving parts. Just as the iPhone and iPT don't. But it would be more useable with the full version of the OS, rather than the iPhone-style embedded device type interface.

If they really want to spice it up, do a multi-touch keyboard in landscape OR portrait mode, with haptic feedback, and type directly on the screen, and only use a physical keyboard when really needed, if at all.

This is supposed to be a stripped down light weight, highly portable chassis, with a full OS installed, how would a slate tablet not serve that purpose better than a folding laptop that has more parts, two shells, and a moving hinge between them?

Give it 4 ports. 1 magsafe power. 1 high power USB, 1 miniDisplayPort external video, and 1 4-pin 1394 Firewire at FW800 speed, but perhaps not powered, if battery and space is an issue. A Gigabit Ethernet port would also be welcome, but Gigabit and FW both might be pushing it, on a thin device with Apple's current trend.

I would include them, if I were calling the shots. I would opt for one of those X-jack ethernet retractable ports, where it pops out, and you plug an ethernet cable through it, but can retract it when not in use, and it isn't a full-height hole in the side of the machine.

The first three ports would instantly allow it to connect to the new LCD Apple display, as a desktop base, either wireless or wired/full keyboard and mouse, and any other stationary peripherals connected to the display's hub.

Such a device might be a slight reduction in weight, and slightly thinner than the folding MBA that they have currently. But if light, simple, stylish, versatile-yet-minimalist, with full MacOS, is the goal... a slate would work as well or better than a sacrificially thin folding laptop, where each half is less rigid than a single piece, and the hinge is vulnerable to over extension, or being closed with something inside the machine.

This also would not replace the MB and MBP... so laptop users still would have folding laptop options...

I work with laptops for a living, in the hands of students. If it can be broken, they will break it. we get ALL KINDS of pressure spots, and broken screens from the hard use of folding laptops, and the hinges get worn over time, unless pristinely cared for. A rigid aluminum back (like Apple's new unibody structure) and a tempered glass flush front would make a VERY stiff and relatively robust chassis, compared to thinner aluminum, and plastic screens.
 
TABLET MBA. With bluetooth, the apple bluetooth keyboard will work with it. They could even come up with an ingenous way to clip them together for transport or use. Otherwise it is a multitouch full-OS 12-13 inch (or possibly even morphed into a smaller ~10" format, or both.) tablet PC, with extensible capabilities.
Isn't that essentially just a 12-13 inch iPod Touch?
To think that many people say we bitch too much over not having firewire, but a laptop with no keyboard and what-not, making it weigh much more when you add all the parts? Seriously?

And people laugh at me when I bring my PDA and a keyboard :eek:

I work with laptops for a living, in the hands of students. If it can be broken, they will break it. we get ALL KINDS of pressure spots, and broken screens from the hard use of folding laptops, and the hinges get worn over time, unless pristinely cared for. A rigid aluminum back (like Apple's new unibody structure) and a tempered glass flush front would make a VERY stiff and relatively robust chassis, compared to thinner aluminum, and plastic screens.


But unlike a laptop your 12-13 inch iPod Touch (PDA, seeing as it's actually capable of connecting stuff) will have nothing to protect that screen. A laptop folds down, thereby protecting the screen.
Further, without bringing the extra keyboard, how will you type on the thing without looking at it?
 
i want an iron MacBook Air

seriously, I want a MacBook Air made out of solid iron. It was the metal that conquered the ancient world! sure, it will weigh 23 pounds, but I'll never worry about dropping it.

also, firewire.
 
Carbon fibre would be great. Besides, it would be good to start moving past the metal look behind us. Its been almost eight years now. The only look Apple kept longer was beige plastic.
 
I LOL'd. But really thought, 3.00 pounds to 2.78? Is Apple catering to 10 year old girls? I mean seriously, 3 pounds is NOTHING. Lift some weights for God sakes.

As others have said, how about updating some outdated products first (iMac, Mac Mini, the remaining ACD line) before bother with the MBA. I mean sure, incorporate Carbon Fiber over time, but let's focus on some other things first.

I wish Apple would be a computer company again. :(
Didn't you read the article, this is not even close to being released.
 
Do you really think Apple will go to another material after spending all that money on the unibody and aluminum manufacturing process/factory?

I don't.
 
This is typical Apple form-over-function thinking. Apple's aluminum laptops have the absolute worst Wi-Fi reception on the market, and that is precisely because of the aluminum enclosure.

Since the Wi-Fi antennas are housed in the upper chassis, it would actually be better for the upper aluminum chassis to be replaced by carbon fiber instead of the bottom cover. Furthermore, the only benefit of aluminum would be if it was used on the bottom cover, as it could act as a heat sink.

Ideally, the whole enclosure should be carbon fiber. I am disappointed at Apple's increasing degree of it's form-over-function practice.
LOL prove they have the worst wifi reception on the market or I guess it's based on your anecdote, what studies have you done to even come to such a conclusion?
 
So let me get this straight?

Apple in wanting to be more greener and use highly recyclable parts, switched to an all aluminum unibody chasis (and pretty much ditched the current macbook - watch once all the shells are gone, they will eliminate the white). Now, because of weight - they want to replace parts of it with a type of plastic that is not recyclable? Most people are ok with the air, but apple is not satisfied with weight (oh that's right some other company produced a lighter machine) - yet they won't produce a netbook?

Also, the person who had the idea about the slate tablet had it right, but as far a protecting the screen? how about an ultra-thin plastic slide lid that is on rails so it never touches the screen. kinda like some of the lense covers on cameras and some PDA's.
 
Hmmm, how 'green' is Carbon Fibre? I'm all for weight savings though.

Carbon fiber isn't green at all but can be recycled according to this article by Daimler Benz.
The problems is creating carbon fiber in the first place..


http://jtc.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/9/3/239

Recycling Carbon-Fiber-Reinforced Thermoplastic Composites

G. Schinner
J. Brandt

H. Richter

Daimler Benz AG, Forschung und Technik, PO. Box 80 04 65, 81663 Munich, Germany

Advanced composite materials are being used more and more in structural applications, which raises the question of the disposal of this kind of material. In this paper two different possibilities for recycling carbon-fiber-reinforced thermoplastic composites are presented. One approach focuses on the grinding of thermoplastic composites in order to use the various grinding fractions as a high-quality reinforcing material in injection molds or as press molding compounds. The manufacturing processes investigated are suitable to reuse fiber-reinforced thermoplastic waste. The properties evaluated are on the same level as comparable injection molding materials. Another approach investigated for reusing thermoplastic carbon-fiber-reinforced composite parts is a reforming process. The reforming experiments performed did not change the material properties evaluated.
 
I also prefer carbon fiber to aluminium.
years before, VAIO 505 extreme made me deeply impressed for its less then 1cm thickness and ultra light weight with its case nicely made from carbon fibre.
I would rush to applestore and click order immediately if they release a nice one.
 
i call BS

this is bollocks
have a look at good quality aluminum bike frames, and compare weight to the carbon fibre frames - barely any difference in a product many times bigger than a MBA.

switching to carbon fibre will make squat difference to weight.
and heat dissipation would be *****
 
this is bollocks
have a look at good quality aluminum bike frames, and compare weight to the carbon fibre frames - barely any difference in a product many times bigger than a MBA.

switching to carbon fibre will make squat difference to weight.
and heat dissipation would be *****

carbon fibre is widely used in super cars cooling units to suck in cold air, of course its thermal conductivity is way more superior than aluminium. better do some research mate
 
silly news, they better get busy with some real work, like getting them p.i. semi cpus in the iphones so we can start getting proud of our homemade procs. again, AND possibly considering a p.i. semi for the air because then MAYBE we can watch some youtube videos without burning our balls as is the case with oh so great oh so advanced intels. It's really sad to see amd going down the drain and all the net having been pocketed by intel praising cpus that can't really handle youtubevideos in a decent tdp and intel gpus that are well...excuse me while I puke....

There are also plenty, plenty of issues with the rev. a new macbooks that they should be busy looking into.

I like the aesthetics and feel of aluminum, i think carbon fiber, at least the implementations in tec i ve seen looks cheap and tatty, and for just 0.2 pounds it's just plain silly....
 
This carbon fiber substance is known as composite material in the military (most military aircraft are made from it) and it's great stuff until it breaks (tears/shatters/rips). At this point it's toxic, you think asbestos is bad for your lungs, this stuff in comparison would make breathing asbestos seem healthy.

I've been around when this stuff breaks and they call in a fully geared hazmat team to deal with it.

I know some high end bicycles use this material as well and I'd tell them the same thing, be very careful around it if it ever becomes damaged.

In conclusion, just say "NO" to composite material in notebooks!...
 
seriously, I want a MacBook Air made out of solid iron. It was the metal that conquered the ancient world! sure, it will weigh 23 pounds, but I'll never worry about dropping it.

also, firewire.

That would be neat, but the energy in dropping the solid iron Macbook air would be directly transfered to the screen and logic board.

Sure the case would look awesome, but you wouldn't have anything close to a working computer ;) .

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