Great for anyone still using the platform, but too little too late. Smart tv apps took over the function of my ATV4.
Pointless at this stage for me, got a nvidia shield and the Apple TV is gathering dust, one app does not fix its problems.
Estimates pin about 15%-20% of U.S. homes to have 4k sets right now. Is that mainstream?
He said "buying", not "already owning".
Between the office and home, I have 6 TVs, all of which are 1080p. But if I were to buy a TV tomorrow, it would 100% be 4K.
You're describing the Samsung way to lead - race to market with technology that is either not fully working or not fully supported just to win new sales in that quarter. It's short term thinking. Apple knows that 4k saturation is a 10 year process and they are not worried about losing a few million sales to early adopters. The same thing happened with 3G and 4G and Wi-Fi 802.11AC and they are fine.I expect Apple to LEAD the market, not respond to it. It's embarrassing that they didn't include it on the Apple TV 4. There was no compelling reason not to. Lead the way and let the content follow.
If your estimates were true, then we would have 100% 4k penetration by Christmas. Nothing works like that. Most people shopping will not even consider 4k because of price difference, lack of content and picture quality (1080p HDR looks better than straight 4k). We won't even have 50% 4k penetration by 2020.What are the estimates of % of people buying new TV sets? I would guess more than 80% would buy a 4K set. That's what everybody looks at.
Apple, more than anyone, will help make 4k mainstream. But they have their own timeline. Remember the 3G iPhone. They nearly took down AT&T's network because so much bandwidth was suddenly in demand at one time.Perhaps not, but releasing a 4K Apple TV can help make it mainstream.
Not to mention, that's 15-20% of the market Apple is basically giving up by default when consumers are shopping for streaming devices and find out that the ATV won't support the 4K their shiny new TV can display.
If you Google my question, you will see many different links. They vary in numbers and time ranges so just combine a few and average them out. That's what I did.Estimates from where? when?
Most people shopping will not even consider 4k because of price difference, lack of content and picture quality (1080p HDR looks better than straight 4k).
Since Apple doesn't sell 4k TV sets, they don't have a big incentive to jump onto that standard as quickly because they cannot control it. They behaved the same way with 3G and 4G cellular networks too. It also would've cut too deeply into their margins if they included support too early. Realistically, they probably lost about 10,000 customers but saved about $100,000,000. Once they do support 4k, they will go about winning back half of those lost customers so they still come out ahead.I expect Apple to LEAD the market, not respond to it. It's embarrassing that they didn't include it on the Apple TV 4. There was no compelling reason not to. Lead the way and let the content follow.
You're describing the Samsung way to lead - race to market with technology that is either not fully working or not fully supported just to win new sales in that quarter. It's short term thinking.
Haven't you heard of the bargain bin? TV makers will be selling old inventory there for years to come. It's the basis of every Black Friday sale. There will be 5x as many 1080p TV sets sold this years as 4k. The same reason there are 5x as many PCs sold as Mac every year.Absolutely not true. People buying today don't have much of a choice. Only the cheapest tv's lacking the most features have 1080p. I think samsung still sells some 1080p 2015 models at best buy. Point is, if they want a decent TV, they will have no choice but to get 4k.
That would be ideal but tech markets don't work that way, at least companies that do that tend to lose money because they cannot support multiple standards at once without passing that cost onto the consumer. It also sends a confusing message to consumers and developers. When you support old and new standards together, there is very little incentive for customers and developers to create products for the new standard so it withers and dies. The only time I see Apple jump quickly into new markets is when they completely control the standard or at least helped create it which is the case with things like lightning, thunderbolt and even USB C.I prefer addition of new standards that early adopters can enjoy and others can ignore because the old standards are still supported, rather than the replacement of current standards with "technology that is either not fully working or not fully supported". I've encountered a lot more tech that natively supports 4k than USB-C. Unfortunately, it seems like the Apple way to lead is - race to market with technology that is either not fully working or not fully supported just to get thinner devices.
This coming from an iPhone 7 and 12" Macbook owner who consistently runs into frustrating scenarios where I miss USB-A or the headphone jack, and Apple TV 4 owner who really wanted it to be better.
Haven't you heard of the bargain bin? TV makers will be selling old inventory there for years to come. It's the basis of every Black Friday sale. There will be 5x as many 1080p TV sets sold this years as 4k. The same reason there are 5x as many PCs sold as Mac every year.
This is awesome news! Now I can ditch that worthless Firestick and have Netflix, Hulu, DirecTV NOW and all in one place. And on a platform that actually works (well)!
Estimates pin about 15%-20% of U.S. homes to have 4k sets right now. Is that mainstream?
Big announcement? They'll probably spend 5 minutes on stage talking about it, if that. It's not like the entire event is about Amazon Prime Video. Also, why would you blame both sides? The App Store developer tools have been there for quite some time now... the only ones who chose not to use them is Amazon.
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It was Amazon. I sincerely doubt Apple blocked the app from being on the App Store.
Do people REALLY need to see the contours, peaks, and valleys.... of the PIMPLES you can already see clearly in 1080?
Now if I can get Vudu I can ditch the Roku's completely.
Not a bunch of people reported on it but this is essentially why you saw a trickle of 4k content.
4K content won't fly without HEVC to shrink the datarates. Both sides patched it up. Look for much more
4k content 2H 2017
Seriously? Of all the paid services available Amazon Prime is far and away the best value, from the free one and two-day shipping on Amazon, the photo storage, music, books and video. Not to mention discounts on products. Who else gives even close to all of that for a price that can match it?
Great. What about pronhub?