This might be a silly question but can anyone go to CES or do you have to be a member of the press or otherwise be invited?
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Apple to Attend CES in 2010?
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You need to be a CEA member, or an employee of a company in the CE space. Photo IDs and business cards are required to get your entrance badge.
By the way - due to the poor economy, only 130,000 attendees are at the show.
Conference homepage is http://www.cesweb.org
As for what to pack, the CES exhibit halls total over 15.6 hectares (that's about 40 acres for you colonials). Bring your walking shoes!
You need to be a CEA member, or an employee of a company in the CE space. Photo IDs and business cards are required to get your entrance badge.
By the way - due to the poor economy, only 130,000 attendees are at the show.
Conference homepage is http://www.cesweb.org
As for what to pack, the CES exhibit halls total over 15.6 hectares (that's about 40 acres for you colonials). Bring your walking shoes!
Since Apple isn't just a computer store anymore, I think they would be better spending their money at CES than at MacWorld. Really, with the iPod, iPhone, AppleTV, and other consumer products (along with computers), they should be at CES!
If Apple's at CES, the Apple software folks will follow since they're already being courted anyway.
MacWorld is dead.
MacWorld is dead.
Let me say this again... NO CHANCE IN HELL.
Get real everyone... It's not gonna happen! Ever! Move on!
Get real everyone... It's not gonna happen! Ever! Move on!
... but they may not have an "Apple booth"
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Even if there's an "Apple Zone" (CES uses the term "zone" to describe groupings of booths based on a common theme), I would expect most multi-platform vendors to exhibit in the main zone of interest, rather than the Apple Zone.
Why should Adobe buy a booth in the Apple Zone in addition to their booth in the Content Creation Zone?
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Even if there's an "Apple Zone" (CES uses the term "zone" to describe groupings of booths based on a common theme), I would expect most multi-platform vendors to exhibit in the main zone of interest, rather than the Apple Zone.
Why should Adobe buy a booth in the Apple Zone in addition to their booth in the Content Creation Zone?
You do also realize that those "Microsofties" are potentially new customers to Apple right?
Not only that but a good portion of them now own iPhones,Touches and iPods. The crux of Apple's business now.
Apple is a vindictive company - expect this to happen
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I expect this to happen.
Clearly Apple intended to say "screw you" to IDG with their previous announcement. If not, they would have quietly said, weeks or months after MWSF'09, that they would not participate in the '10 show.
Going to CES instead is simply Apple twisting the knife that they've plunged into IDG's back.
What better way to make sure that an Apple-free MacWorld 2010 does not happen?
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I expect this to happen.
Clearly Apple intended to say "screw you" to IDG with their previous announcement. If not, they would have quietly said, weeks or months after MWSF'09, that they would not participate in the '10 show.
Going to CES instead is simply Apple twisting the knife that they've plunged into IDG's back.
What better way to make sure that an Apple-free MacWorld 2010 does not happen?
I would give this the same credibility as given to a Roughly Drafted report, since it's written by the Roughly Drafted guy (Prince McLean). As such, it mixes more opinion in with the rumours and rumblings... sometimes a little overly hopeful of a certain outcome.
I like Roughly Drafted - but it doesn't score as highly for rumour accuracy as AI does!!!
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Ipods perhaps, but Iphones aren't that common in Las Vegas this week.
There are some - enough that AT&T's 3G network is crawling. You can find the Iphone users easily - they're holding their phones waiting for the download progress bar to move.
Mostly flip phones and Blackberries/Palms here.
Ipods perhaps, but Iphones aren't that common in Las Vegas this week.
There are some - enough that AT&T's 3G network is crawling. You can find the Iphone users easily - they're holding their phones waiting for the download progress bar to move.
Mostly flip phones and Blackberries/Palms here.
MacWorld dying is not really in Apple's best interest. They didn't control the show, but the press that comes out of that is 100% Apple products or made for Mac, iPod, and iPhone. The vendors and attendees support the Mac, the iPhone, and the iPod, and are enthusiastic users or developers from third parties.
Why would Apple want to just kill all this off?
I still say that they're negotiating for better terms and want more control at MacWorld. They are putting a serious hurt on IDG. IDG needs Apple more than Apple needs IDG, and they want to strongly let them know that.
If Apple was truly serious when they said that big trade shows are dead and they can do it better themselves at their own time at their campus and stores, they won't be at CES. If they are just bluffing, and they still are interested in trade shows, killing one that has the Mac name on it doesn't make any sense at all.
Nope, just MWSF.
I do believe that 99% of the showcased products at CES run on some sort of a Microsoft platform (Windows, Windows Mobile, whatever)... That concludes me to think that CES is for Microsofties.
LOL!
You do also realize that those "Microsofties" are potentially new customers to Apple right?
amen
I would laugh if this did happen. for you!
What if this did happen? You guys will still be apple fans right?
I think all of you need to "get real" and move on in life. Apple is no longer the same compney it was years ago. It all ended in 1997 when jobs came back. if you dont like it, theres always other altertives
I'm surprised so many people are negative about this.
I'm actually happy to see Apple showing more ambition. It is like they're willing to dive in with all the opposing factions and reach directly for their throats. And I think Apple really has something to bring to the table. Rather than advertise Macs to Mac fans (Macworld), CES will give them chance to advertise Macs and Apple products to technology fans.
I'm actually happy to see Apple showing more ambition. It is like they're willing to dive in with all the opposing factions and reach directly for their throats. And I think Apple really has something to bring to the table. Rather than advertise Macs to Mac fans (Macworld), CES will give them chance to advertise Macs and Apple products to technology fans.
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Yes, it's a closed industry event.
...but it's crawling with reporters, bloggers and camera crews. Apple can get major publicity.
They have to consider the risk of a boring announcement being lost in the noise, against the opportunity that an exciting announcement will "hide" competitive messages.
CES is closed to the public right? No Stevenotes for me
Yes, it's a closed industry event.
...but it's crawling with reporters, bloggers and camera crews. Apple can get major publicity.
They have to consider the risk of a boring announcement being lost in the noise, against the opportunity that an exciting announcement will "hide" competitive messages.
These are the "hard core" apple fans who who we are talking about here. All they want, is to be in their own shal I say "cult"
Ummmm... I'm a little confused by this. Roughly Drafted is the blog of Daniel Eran Dilger who also does AppleInsider (AI). Can you explain what you just wrote?
I hope this is true. It would be a good move for Apple's part. They will have the biggest and best booth there. All the other companies will look at them in envy and decided to stop making crappy products.
This seems likely - but if it's true then Apple has basically lied about why it's not going to be at MacWorld next year.
That's what has got me with this rumor. Ok, no MW so they can release on their own timeline, but then to go to CES where you would think they have to release something over and above what the competition are doing just seems contradictory!
I do disagree on the yearly show though - isn't that the point of giving timeframes for the different product categories???This one is a head-scratcher for me. I can understand Apple's excuse for pulling out of Macworld but to then turn around and exhibit at CES doesn't make sense. Yeah, CES is crawling with reporters but because CES is not open to the public, they are shutting out a significant portion of their user-base from viewing the "latest and greatest".
Having attended CES twice and Macworld since 2000, I would rather attend Macworld over CES. CES is simply way, way, WAY too big. It took me almost 3 days to cover the show floor at CES while I can cover Macworld in one day. Also, because Macworld is an Expo and Conference, exhibitors offer show specials to get users to buy their products. CES is an industry trade show and I heard people say they can't sell anything directly to attendees.
I will continue to support Macworld for as long as it exists (I just finished signing up for a free 2010 expo hall pass being offered by Macworld Expo - yes registration is now open for the 2010 show) but unless I get a job with a consumer electronics company, I will be cut off from any Apple exhibit at CES.
Having attended CES twice and Macworld since 2000, I would rather attend Macworld over CES. CES is simply way, way, WAY too big. It took me almost 3 days to cover the show floor at CES while I can cover Macworld in one day. Also, because Macworld is an Expo and Conference, exhibitors offer show specials to get users to buy their products. CES is an industry trade show and I heard people say they can't sell anything directly to attendees.
I will continue to support Macworld for as long as it exists (I just finished signing up for a free 2010 expo hall pass being offered by Macworld Expo - yes registration is now open for the 2010 show) but unless I get a job with a consumer electronics company, I will be cut off from any Apple exhibit at CES.
CES? Hmmm, Dunno?
I'm not sure about this one. Firstly Apple through Macworld in my opinion has always upstaged CES. I think that the pressure on Apple to continue to release a new product is a great thing. I believe it is what has kept them ahead of the game (again in my opinion). CES, presents none of this positive pressure and my concern would be that Apple may start to become stale and become like other companies, regurgitating the same rubbish. This was the scenario the mobile phone Industry was in prior to the iPhone setting it alight again.
Also, there is a significantly more hostile crowd to Apples tech. Most of the companies at CES have MS' approach to technology and a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, therefore poo pooing Apples product releases. The press is in a single place where they can scream about Apples product only moments later getting negative responses from competitors. Where as at Mac World the press were a little less interested in CES. May be this aspect is a good thing?
This is the only positive thing I see coming out of Apple being at CES. Psychologically upping the ante! We'll come and play in your backyard because we can gain more potential a drawing business away from the other major attendees? Apple will be like the new kid on the block being sneered at and checked out and this is when Apple will need to show it is made of sterner stuff and innovate beyond the expectations of those at CES and the Mac community.
May be I'm wrong.
I'm not sure about this one. Firstly Apple through Macworld in my opinion has always upstaged CES. I think that the pressure on Apple to continue to release a new product is a great thing. I believe it is what has kept them ahead of the game (again in my opinion). CES, presents none of this positive pressure and my concern would be that Apple may start to become stale and become like other companies, regurgitating the same rubbish. This was the scenario the mobile phone Industry was in prior to the iPhone setting it alight again.
Also, there is a significantly more hostile crowd to Apples tech. Most of the companies at CES have MS' approach to technology and a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, therefore poo pooing Apples product releases. The press is in a single place where they can scream about Apples product only moments later getting negative responses from competitors. Where as at Mac World the press were a little less interested in CES. May be this aspect is a good thing?
This is the only positive thing I see coming out of Apple being at CES. Psychologically upping the ante! We'll come and play in your backyard because we can gain more potential a drawing business away from the other major attendees? Apple will be like the new kid on the block being sneered at and checked out and this is when Apple will need to show it is made of sterner stuff and innovate beyond the expectations of those at CES and the Mac community.
May be I'm wrong.
Wow, this is far reaching strategic Apple news.
No longer are they willing just to do their 'own thing in their own space' - they are now actively entering into PC turf.
This is landmark.
No longer are they willing just to do their 'own thing in their own space' - they are now actively entering into PC turf.
This is landmark.