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some of the folks here are so surrly it hurts virtually Apple should steal that campaign and actor for their spots
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Apple to Begin Taking Orders for New Mac Pro on August 9th
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some of the folks here are so surrly it hurts virtually Apple should steal that campaign and actor for their spots
Apples latest ads are a little dry, straightforward. Working purely on emotion, but humorous stuff is always my favorite!
Logic Pro, Mathematica, Final Cut Pro, Reason 4 or the newer version, Cubase, I'm sure many UNIX or other types of server farm or other server type apps will thrive. Wait till universities build clusters out of 12 core XServes.
Logic absolutely does NOT take advantage of all cores even on an octo. I expect that on the 12 core machines Logic will still only use 8 cores tops until the app is upgraded. I'd be curious to hear confirmation that Cubase uses all cores fully, any users here?
Where did you get sept 3 from? This article says august and maybe even the 9th or close to it.
I'd agree in the case of the 12 core machines (and the 8 at times) but the quads aren't remotely competitive. $2499 for four cores at that speed and only four ram slots is really poor price/performance. Not to mention that machine is outperformed by the high end iMac (and other machines that are way cheaper).
And the $200 price increase on the eight core with very little improvement is pretty inexplicable. Might as well buy the previous gen on sale.
Professionals who are paid handsomely for their work - if it lets them work faster it will pay for itself before long.
I'd assume much of it is because the quad and eight core got only modest improvements after almost a year and a half wait. And the octo got a $200 price bump without anything to justify it. Still only 4 ram slots in the quad, no faster drive interfaces, not even internal SATA 3. There are legitimate reasons to be disappointed other than "haters".
Sorry, you're wrong. I have used these for years and the case design is the absolute lowest thing on my wish list. Every person I know personally who has one also feels the same way. So please, speak for yourself but enough with claiming to know how everyone else feels.
they should have a BTO option of a pack of handy wipes or kleenexes for the standard unboxing jizz
I was mildly surprised that they didnt change the Apple logo to be black... but i'm glad that they didnt.
I'm personally fine with the design - even if it is old. It's just a machine - it looked fantastic then and it still does now.
If you're not content with it, put some stickers on it or something if you want to make it look better
Aside from that, I care more about what's on the inside.
I'm personally fine with the design - even if it is old. It's just a machine - it looked fantastic then and it still does now.
If you're not content with it, put some stickers on it or something if you want to make it look better
Aside from that, I care more about what's on the inside.
Some people here scare me =O
Could anyone say just how much faster a baseline mac pro would be over a midrange iMac? I do video editing, and my old Power Mac G4 MDD simply isn't cutting it anymore (Although I can't complain, it did last me almost ten years!) Would the six cores really be worth it on Final Cut and photoshop, or would an iMac (Specifically the 2.60GHz i5) do fine with that?
Could anyone say just how much faster a baseline mac pro would be over a midrange iMac? I do video editing, and my old Power Mac G4 MDD simply isn't cutting it anymore (Although I can't complain, it did last me almost ten years!) Would the six cores really be worth it on Final Cut and photoshop, or would an iMac (Specifically the 2.60GHz i5) do fine with that?
How long has the Intel Mac Pro been a follower?
Buy some Windows motherboards & we can have USB3 & SATA III. Anything past FW800 seems to be a figment of our imaginations. The ATI 5870 has been available for some time in the Windows arena. If Apple will have the 5870 that means that ATI must be shipping the 6870 by now.
Apples innovation is now with the low end like it has since Steve Jobs came back, i.e. the iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad etc.
Buy some Windows motherboards & we can have USB3 & SATA III. Anything past FW800 seems to be a figment of our imaginations. The ATI 5870 has been available for some time in the Windows arena. If Apple will have the 5870 that means that ATI must be shipping the 6870 by now.
Apples innovation is now with the low end like it has since Steve Jobs came back, i.e. the iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad etc.
I thought Applecare covers both the MP and display only if the two were bought at the same time?
IIRC, FCS uses at most 3 cores, Photoshop at most 2.
Although, FCS is arguably in need of an update so in the (near) future, it'll be able to use more.
But side from core usage, i5 iMac should be fine especially @ 2.60GHz, unless you're using the two programs simultaneously.
I would agree. I've given up. I do mostly 3D work with Maya, AE and some FCP work. Maya and AE and Premier Pro for that matter will use all the cores for rendering. PP in particular, with an nVidia card, that Apple does not want to support for obvious reasons, will run circles around FCP for HD editing. Just ordered a build my own from newegg.com. 3.33Ghz Gulftown Extreme, 12Gb ram, 600Gb 10,000 RPM Raptor SATA III, nVidia 3800FX all for $3K. I love my MBP and will keep that for day to day stuff and mail but I need a speed demon for 3D rendering. Been working with Solidworks anyway, which only works in windows so for the total amount I need NLE editing I'll put up the PP quirks. At least Adobe keeps working on it and supporting it.
Potentially not faster at all for the quad, maybe even slower. Hopefully a bit faster with the six core, but only if your app is optimized to use all the cores.
Ah!
I'm more concerned with what's coming down the road myself. I'd go for the 12 myself since then you could run multiple Omnispheres, multiple Native Instruments, etc.
My opinion has always been: "buy more than you need and you won't get frustrated when you don't hit the wall."
If you buy less than you need and you hit a wall then you'll be in a place where you have little places you can go.
You're gonna get the 12 core to do audio?
Do what'chu think is necessary, but I've literally been unable to strain my octo. Heck, it hardly breaks a sweat. And that's with all kinds of Native Instruments stuff running, bunch of effects etc.
I'm more concerned with what's coming down the road myself. I'd go for the 12 myself since then you could run multiple Omnispheres, multiple Native Instruments, etc.
My opinion has always been: "buy more than you need and you won't get frustrated when you don't hit the wall."
If you buy less than you need and you hit a wall then you'll be in a place where you have little places you can go.
Thinking....
Idea:
(1) Take your G5 powermac.
(2) Remove all innards from its case.
(3) Buy Corei7 iMac.
(4) Remove innards from 27" monitor.
(5) Install in G5 tower case.
(6) You now have the much desired Mac "mini-tower".
(7) Go to town!
Idea:
(1) Take your G5 powermac.
(2) Remove all innards from its case.
(3) Buy Corei7 iMac.
(4) Remove innards from 27" monitor.
(5) Install in G5 tower case.
(6) You now have the much desired Mac "mini-tower".
(7) Go to town!
Yes....
Yes. Examples:
My G5 tower has LESS USB ports than my 27" Corei7 iMac.
My G5 tower has 2 FW400 ports (both underutilized - my old 20 gig iPod is plugged into it but not really used)
My G5 tower has a FW800 port used all the time as a way to get to my twin 1.5 TB SATA's from my 27" Corei7 iMac.
If I had an eSata port on the iMac I'd be able to connect directly to those drives instead of having the G5 in play.
if I had HDMI I could plug it into the big 32" flat panel out in the living room for the fun of it.
Oh well.
Yes. Examples:
My G5 tower has LESS USB ports than my 27" Corei7 iMac.
My G5 tower has 2 FW400 ports (both underutilized - my old 20 gig iPod is plugged into it but not really used)
My G5 tower has a FW800 port used all the time as a way to get to my twin 1.5 TB SATA's from my 27" Corei7 iMac.
If I had an eSata port on the iMac I'd be able to connect directly to those drives instead of having the G5 in play.
if I had HDMI I could plug it into the big 32" flat panel out in the living room for the fun of it.
Oh well.
They should just re-use the iPad marketing message.
Introducing the magically revolutionary new Mac Pro: It's the fastest Mac ever, at an unbelievable price.
Introducing the magically revolutionary new Mac Pro: It's the fastest Mac ever, at an unbelievable price.
Thinking....
The i7 iMac benches very close to the low end Mac Pro and sometimes exceeds depending on what you are doing.
Geekbench numbers:
I'd check out primatelabs geekbench charts for Mac i5 version if you want to see how they stack up (remember the charts are averages).
The i7 iMac benches very close to the low end Mac Pro and sometimes exceeds depending on what you are doing.
Geekbench numbers:
I'd check out primatelabs geekbench charts for Mac i5 version if you want to see how they stack up (remember the charts are averages).
Who really expected them to be affordable!? lol
Pricing Nightmare
Yet another overpriced hardware evo without a needed design change to accompany it....all with an outrageous price tag attached. Last time I checked, NO mainstream software is coded to fully benefit from the advantage of 4 cores, much less 12. And of course, if youre dropping the 3k+ on the Pro...youll get at least one of the new 27inch monitors. Am I the only person who thinks this Apple Koolaid is getting to rich to drink? Maybe everyone else has ALOT more chedda than this homeboy'.
Yet another overpriced hardware evo without a needed design change to accompany it....all with an outrageous price tag attached. Last time I checked, NO mainstream software is coded to fully benefit from the advantage of 4 cores, much less 12. And of course, if youre dropping the 3k+ on the Pro...youll get at least one of the new 27inch monitors. Am I the only person who thinks this Apple Koolaid is getting to rich to drink? Maybe everyone else has ALOT more chedda than this homeboy'.
I am going to order one of these new MP's, but it is painfully clear that they have been ignoring the line for a while now and did the absolute minimum to qualify theses as a line update. It could have really been so much more. What a missed opportunity.m Now it is just a follower and not a leader like in their mobile lines. Kind of sad really.
Right on...I think it's sad that Apple's desktop/laptop base is suffering at the cost of the iPhone/iPad line (not that I dont love my i4). We could have seen a slimmer tower, with USB 3.0, standard high end graphics, etc...I admitt its lame to whine about what COULD have been. In regards to the iMac refresh, they sold us beer in expensive bottles and told us it was champagne. Sad
Yep, unfortunately, I agree too ....
I don't give a care about a new case design. I think the Mac Pro's existing case is excellent -- and no need to change a good thing there.
I do, however, care that I can't go from a Mac Pro I bought 2 editions ago to one with any more cores than I've got now, without shelling out $5,000+ to do it!
The new video card is, arguably, the single best thing about the new offerings - and so far, we're not even sure if that can simply be put it an older Mac Pro model? If so, it's a "no brainer" for me to spend the $'s on that and upgrade my 2008 Mac Pro instead of worrying about either this model, or the 2009 edition.
I don't give a care about a new case design. I think the Mac Pro's existing case is excellent -- and no need to change a good thing there.
I do, however, care that I can't go from a Mac Pro I bought 2 editions ago to one with any more cores than I've got now, without shelling out $5,000+ to do it!
The new video card is, arguably, the single best thing about the new offerings - and so far, we're not even sure if that can simply be put it an older Mac Pro model? If so, it's a "no brainer" for me to spend the $'s on that and upgrade my 2008 Mac Pro instead of worrying about either this model, or the 2009 edition.
You're gonna get the 12 core to do audio?
Do what'chu think is necessary, but I've literally been unable to strain my octo. Heck, it hardly breaks a sweat. And that's with all kinds of Native Instruments stuff running, bunch of effects etc.
How much RAM?