I still can't understand why they just can't list it now and make it preorder, so we can get a price on every option. Really stupid marketing. No one will buy the 2009 model now.
BTW, isn't your 8 core 2.93 Ghz. Mine is.
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Apple to Begin Taking Orders for New Mac Pro on August 9th
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I still can't understand why they just can't list it now and make it preorder, so we can get a price on every option. Really stupid marketing. No one will buy the 2009 model now.
BTW, isn't your 8 core 2.93 Ghz. Mine is.
These days? No one should expect them to be affordable.I'm guessing a lot of people are rating this down because they can't afford the 12-core mac pro...Who really expected them to be affordable!? lol
However, the entry-model Power Macs were actually fairly affordable. I think the lowest the prices ever got was around $1500. Those were the days...
These days? No one should expect them to be affordable.
However, the entry-model Power Macs were actually fairly affordable. I think the lowest the prices ever got was around $1500. Those were the days...
As low as $1299:
http://www.applelinks.com/articles/2003/06/20030625112445.shtml
Gosh I miss those days.
Nowadays it's ridiculous to think that a tower started at that price.
But honestly it's just how things are now. Apple has obviously geared itself more towards the iMac crowd which is 99% of the Apple desktop market. I can't blame them because I'd do the same exact thing in their position.
The important thing is that they have NOT abandoned their high end users who require a "workstation" which is what the Mac Pro has evolved to.
The funny thing is that the "inventor" of the Macintosh had envisioned it to be a cheap computer system that would be affordable for pretty much everyone. As time went on though, it seems to have gotten dearer and dearer.
It would be nice if Apple went back to its roots in that regard - but there would most likely be a trade-off in price and form factor.
It would be nice if Apple went back to its roots in that regard - but there would most likely be a trade-off in price and form factor.
Just curious...
What device do you have that requires USB3? So far no one in this thread indicating that they're let down there is no USB3 doesn't even own any USB3 gear.
What device do you have that requires USB3? So far no one in this thread indicating that they're let down there is no USB3 doesn't even own any USB3 gear.
Seriously?
My sister-in-law has the 24" iMac of a couple years back and my i7 iMac trounces it. Your brother probably has it bogged down somehow or not enough ram. Weird.
My sister-in-law has the 24" iMac of a couple years back and my i7 iMac trounces it. Your brother probably has it bogged down somehow or not enough ram. Weird.
What advantage might a nehalem or westmere 2.26/2.4G 8 core Mac Pro have over a 3.2G 2008 8 core Mac Pro?
Thank you. Why should anyone care if Apple doesn't make a big deal about high end workstations. Steve said they would always provide them (work trucks). They are fantastic machines but for only a much smaller group of high end users than will buy phones and pads. The iMac is the computer for almost all desktop users. High end users also add graphics cards that aren't in BTO because so few would use that option. I like this one for Premiere Pro. Not for the faint of heart.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_fx_4800_for_mac_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_fx_4800_for_mac_us.html
Not much. If you already have that, I would stick with it for now. There does not seem to be a real advantage in upgrading.
Might be appropriate to adjust for inflation. Here's a calculator that is useful for that:
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
So the high end G4 listed at the site you link to (which comes closest of those listed there to being configured like the entry level quad core Mac Pro) was listed at $3274. Plugging that into the inflation calculator yields $3882. That's more than the 3.3 GHz quad core lists for today (with base configuration), and more than the entry level 8 core machine.
The first Mac I bought with my own money was a Mac II ci, which I bought when that was current. Price was probably not that much less than a quad core Mac Pro today (although I don't remember exactly what it was -- I could be wrong about that).
In Sept., 2001, I bought a dual 800 MHz Power Mac with 128 MB of RAM (subsequently upgraded to 1.125 GB), 2x60GB hard disks, superdrive, GeForce2MX video card, SCSI PCI card for $3469. Plugging that into the inflation calculator yields $4273.63 -- close to a dual 2.66 GHz 8 core Mac Pro. Monitor (22" LaCie Electron blue III) was $999. This is still my current Mac -- still works (but painfully slow with some current software), and I can't upgrade some of it because much of what I want is Intel only. So I will be buying a new Mac Pro, and I will probably wind up spending an amount that is similar to what I spent 9 years ago. And I will have a much more capable system.
Macs have been considered expensive (relative to non-Mac PCs) from the time I first got involved in buying them back in the late 1980s (Mac II, IIx, IIci, IIcx, purchased for work). I don't think this has changed much. Nor has the complaining about prices on web sites like this one.
What's amazing is that lots of people who don't get sarcasm, it just goes right past them, think that they are smart. They are totally oblivious to it.
Well I am wondering why I would want a refurbished 09 Mac Pro when I could pay less for an 08 Mac Pro.
The graphics card would be the biggest reason, but you can just upgrade that on your own anyway. The 2009 and new models also have processors that contain Turbo Boost and Hyper-Threading, but even so the clock speed on the 2008 version is very high anyway. In real situations I would say it is a wash.
Don't know about that...
Here's one example of a BTO gaming rig:
http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/hom...x?refid=alienware-area-51-alx&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1
I would really like to have a go on a machine with specs like that!
My understanding is the Mac Pro isn't really built for playing games - the nature of the processors, and especially the options on the graphics cards are oriented differently. The Mac Pro is more a workstation and essentially far far beyond my requirements, never mind my budget. Though it probably would preform quite respectably in games available for OS X, I suspect (correct me if I am wrong) that most buyers work in media or other processor intensive areas...
Here's one example of a BTO gaming rig:
http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/hom...x?refid=alienware-area-51-alx&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1
I would really like to have a go on a machine with specs like that!
My understanding is the Mac Pro isn't really built for playing games - the nature of the processors, and especially the options on the graphics cards are oriented differently. The Mac Pro is more a workstation and essentially far far beyond my requirements, never mind my budget. Though it probably would preform quite respectably in games available for OS X, I suspect (correct me if I am wrong) that most buyers work in media or other processor intensive areas...
I bought a mac 128 within three weeks of announcement, seems to me it was $2495, followed by an SE30, a IICi, then the priciest, a Quadra 800 ($4200). After that, a Performa 6115, a G4 dual 500 (which died after 8 years) and a mac mini 1.83, which is the only one I still have (although I was given an early 2008 Mac Book Pro when a customer upgraded to a Mac Pro last year). It's ironic that the form factor for the IICi would be exactly what I would want in a Mini Tower.
I like the towers, but I'm very patient. Sandy Bridge is going to give a big performance boost to floating point calculations, and that is something that I can use with my MCAD software, but the towers are so good now that I doubt that Sandy Bridge would be worth waiting for, at least in my case.
Now that the Mac Pros are out, I wonder if/when Apple will update the xServe? My company uses several dozen.