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While there are a lot of consumer-unfriendly issues that plague this current generation of iMac due to its thinness, I'm unfortunately inclined to agree with you there. This is why I have sworn off iMacs in favor of MacBook Pros, for every single problem I have with the iMac (and Mac mini, and MacBook Air too for that matter) is absent in the MacBook Pro.

I have to agree with you Yebubbleman...that is what kept me from buying an iMac. Opening this thing was a joke already..but now it is even worse with Apple's special HDD!

Who knows if we can open the new Macbooks as easy in 2012...
 
It's one thing to talk like you know what you're talking about but not, and it's another to talk like you know what you're talking about and actually know what you're talking about. This site has a plethora of the former and way too little of the latter. My contempt is with the former group for incorrectly assuming that they are in the latter camp. Case in point: "Just improve the cooling system of the current design."

By the way, I will never look down on anyone for actually admitting that they don't know what they're talking about

I know and I admit that I don't know much about technology and I never assumed that I was part of the group that did. I just like Apple and their products so I visit macrumors to see the latest rumors. Besides I am only 15 and should you expect someone that young to have much experience/knowledge? Especially in the computer department. Most 15 year olds do not know much about tech.
 
Looking forward to see what the rumored next iMac would look like.
drop the optical drive, make a blue-ray SuperDrive and give me +1 port on the back for it.
then spec bump and a system ssd.

Instead of saying drop the optical drive & add a BluRay optical drive you should just say put a BluRay optical drive in. An SSD is an interesting item. For those that have a lot of money to purchase a couple 512 gb units to have 1 TB of storage at a minimum or those that need very little storage & can get by with a 128 GB SSD the SSD only idea is great. For the rest of us with less money &/or more storage needs will have to have at least one 3.5" hard disk drive to keep our Macs running the way we need them too. These drives come in sizes up to 4 TB now.

Some combination of Hybrid Drives or just plain straight SSD for speed with the OS & most used programs with HDD for the bulk of storage the less used programs. Just like my 10,000 rpm WD hdds have done a great job in the past, the newer & better every year SSDs will be great in the future. For heavy data users that also wants a lot of speed for what they can afford a combo will be here for a long time.
 
I rather hope that the redesigned iPhone rumor is wrong. I feel like I'm in the minority, but I absolutely love the current design and think that the rumored tapered/'teardrop" design is fugly. I also don't see what the point is to a larger screen other than reducing PPI count.

-- Nathan
 
I agree NathanA.

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If Apple went back to the iMac G4 design, they would be fools Yebubbleman. Microsoft and other companies would laugh their asses off and nobody would buy the iMac except for a select few like you.
 
No, I don't have what I want. I want a computer that is thin like the air but also performs better like the pro. For example: I don't meet the system requirements for most games on my current computer.

Here's a lesson on computers: If you make it smaller, it won't perform as well as if it were larger. For instance: The XFX card on my gaming PC in my signature. It performs better than the best video card you can buy on an iMac today. Why? Because my card is physically larger, and doesn't have to fit within the constraints of a gaming laptop form-factor GPU like the video cards on the iMac.

Case in point: the CPU in the MacBook Air is slower than the CPU in the 13" MacBook Pro because it physically has to be smaller.

Case in point: the MacBook Air doesn't have a GPU with its own VRAM because it doesn't have the same amount of space on the logic board (nowhere near it) and nowhere near enough of a thermal envelope for that kind of heat.

Therefore, and I hate to burst your bubble, you, like everyone else on this site, wants what is physically impossible. You either have thin or powerful, you can't have both to the degree that the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro have respectively.

Though really, why not build yourself a gaming PC? Gaming PCs kick the crap out of any Mac for gaming anyway.
 
Look at what you're saying.

I can see the Macbook pro losing the CD drive entirely. Hopefully they will do a air type placement with the logic board (ports on both sides). It would have the same SSD option as the air along with a regular HDD space. Cut the thickness by a quarter inch and plop in a HUGE battery. Down a quarter of the weight, space for good parts. life would be good. Lol I just realized that I am asking for a macbook air that is a little thicker with better battery and a second HDD... With a decent amount of power of course. And everything needs retina (2x resolution) displays. EVERYTHING

Where do you plan to get all of this room if you want to cut 1/4" off in MBP thickness? I have a second hardrive in my 17" MBP. There is only a small gain in space. Not as much as you must think. To the current thickness the battery can be made bigger. But as thin as you say would require a smaller batery &/or no second drive, i.e. both SSD & HDD.
 
Also, where does it say that the Imac's cooling systems are so inefficient that they are barely just preventing it from overheating? I was under the impression that it is hot exactly because the aluminium casing dissipates heat that well. IE: the casing being hot is a deliberate design feature, not a bug. It should have no or minimal impact on the internal components! :confused:

What overlap? There's no overlap, you have an 11" MacBook Air that has a weak processor, an okay amount of RAM for today, and an SSD, a 13" Air that's slightly faster, a 13" Pro that's way faster that has the option of either a hard drive or an SSD, a 15" Pro that beats the crap out of any of those three, and a 17" Pro that has the higher-end 15" Pro's options but adds extra ports, two more inches of diagonal screen real-estate and an ExpressCard slot.

The fact that there are people debating whether to get a 13' MBP or MBA suggests that there is in fact some overlap. Both come with 4gb ram, the MBP has a larger HDD which can (and may eventually) be swapped out for SSD. The MBA is thinner but cannot be upgraded.

I do in fact see apple ending up with some MBA/MBP hybrid in the 11', 13' and 15' varieties, and retiring the 17' model.
 
Gaming isn't the only problem I have with my computer. And I never said that a thin computer that performed the same as the pro would be at all likely, I was just wishing for the impossible. :)
 
Also Announcing New Products for 2013 ,2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 .....

I have just received confidential Info from those who "know" that Apple will be bringing new products and updates in the year 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and as we just got confirmation that also in 2019.

You heard it hear "First":p
 
Where do you plan to get all of this room if you want to cut 1/4" off in MBP thickness? I have a second hardrive in my 17" MBP. There is only a small gain in space. Not as much as you must think. To the current thickness the battery can be made bigger. But as thin as you say would require a smaller batery &/or no second drive, i.e. both SSD & HDD.

The person you quote clearly doesn't know what they're talking about. An unfortunately common problem here.

Also, where does it say that the Imac's cooling systems are so inefficient that they are barely just preventing it from overheating? I was under the impression that it is hot exactly because the aluminium casing dissipates heat that well. IE: the casing being hot is a deliberate design feature, not a bug. It should have no or minimal impact on the internal components! :confused:

You pay way too much attention to Apple marketing and way too little attention to practicality and how things actually work. Don't worry though, you're in good company on these forums.

The fact that there are people debating whether to get a 13' MBP or MBA suggests that there is in fact some overlap. Both come with 4gb ram, the MBP has a larger HDD which can (and may eventually) be swapped out for SSD. The MBA is thinner but cannot be upgraded.

I do in fact see apple ending up with some MBA/MBP hybrid in the 11', 13' and 15' varieties, and retiring the 17' model.

The fact that people are debating whether or not to get a 13" Air versus a 13" Pro shows that those people are either not computer-savy, uninformed, or both, not that there's an overlap in anything other than the screen-sizes of the machines in question.

Gaming isn't the only problem I have with my computer. And I never said that a thin computer that performed the same as the pro would be at all likely, I was just wishing for the impossible. :)

At least you're now admitting that what you want isn't feasible.

And oh yeah, why would I build a PC? I hate PC's. Apple is where it's at baby!

Not if you care about gaming it isn't!
 
I accurately predicted (months ago) the upcoming iPhone as the one to have. I knew then that the 4S was merely a placeholder until Apple was ready with a completely new design. Thus my point is not to highlight that I was right, but rather that Apple is fairly predictable when you've been a customer as long as I have. It's also why I encouraged many not to use their upgrade on such a mildly revised phone.
 
You pay way too much attention to Apple marketing and way too little attention to practicality and how things actually work. Don't worry though, you're in good company on these forums.

Then pray enlighten me, because I got this information not from Apple, not from some computer magazine, but right from the mouths of some members here in this very forum! :eek:

The fact that people are debating whether or not to get a 13" Air versus a 13" Pro shows that those people are either not computer-savy, uninformed, or both, not that there's an overlap in anything other than the screen-sizes of the machines in question.

Or rather, not everyone ends up using every aspect of their computer for what it was intended for. For example, yes, a MBP supposedly excels in intensive tasks like video editing, but not everyone who buys one gets it for said purpose. There are some parts of the MBP they like (ability to upgrade to 8gb ram, larger HDD) and some aspects of the MBP they prefer (the smaller size/weight) because they will have to lug it around, and comfort does matter.

So in the end, it boils down to weighing the pros/cons of each choice. It is not always so clear cut as to which apple product best suits somebody.
 
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I was considering getting a Air quite soon might sit on my hands for a bit and hold out.... Then again maybe I won't, I really don't see what they will change design wise on the Air but then again this is Apple and if there is a change I'm sure to be blown away.

I believe if anything on the Air does change it will be the specifications and it won't me a moderate boost either it will be really dramatic and magical.:cool:

Cheers to a expensive but magical 2012 lets see what Steve has left us to play with.
 
PC=Apple (both use the same Hardware, although Apple is always a step behind regarding Hardware ;) )

PC does NOT = Apple. First of all most PC's are made from cheap plastic, second of all Macs get WAY less viruses than PC's and I'm sure there is more stuff I could think of besides what I mentioned. Plus, there are undoubtedly more people who know more on this subject than I do and could give reasons why macs are better that I could not think of.

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Then pray enlighten me, because I got this information not from Apple, not from some computer magazine, but right from the mouths of some members here in this very forum! :eek:



Or rather, not everyone ends up using every aspect of their computer for what it was intended for. For example, yes, a MBP supposedly excels in intensive tasks like video editing, but not everyone who buys one gets it for said purpose. There are some parts of the MBP they like (ability to upgrade to 8gb ram, larger HDD) and some aspects of the MBP they prefer (the smaller size/weight) because they will have to lug it around, and comfort does matter.

So in the end, it boils down to weighing the pros/cons of each choice. It is not always so clear cut as to which apple product best suits somebody.

Well said. +1 to that.
 
The current iMac design is perfection, but I love the idea of refreshing it even so. Please don't make me want a new one Apple!

I think the stand is going to collapsable, so you can lay your iMac flat on the desk and once in that position, it will turn into app launcher mode and use it like an iPad :D
 
I rather hope that the redesigned iPhone rumor is wrong. I feel like I'm in the minority, but I absolutely love the current design and think that the rumored tapered/'teardrop" design is fugly. I also don't see what the point is to a larger screen other than reducing PPI count.

-- Nathan

I dunno, from my friends around me, they all love the ip4 design as it feels rather rugged and solid and "manly" to hold in their hands. However, I just never could get used to it, and actually preferred the curved design of the iphone 3g. :p
 
PC does NOT = Apple. First of all most PC's are made from cheap plastic, second of all Macs get WAY less viruses than PC's and I'm sure there is more stuff I could think of besides what I mentioned. Plus, there are undoubtedly more people who know more on this subject than I do and could give reasons why macs are better that I could not think of.

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First of all...it is the OS you are talking about!! PC = Personal Computer!
i do have Ubuntu on my PC...no viruses. My PC is made of metal..sry on that again.
People these days . . .
 
matte or glossy is just a matter of choice

What is this obsession with Matte screen? Its contrast is lacking.Glossy FTW !!

Glossy is a matter of preference. I have a matte screen on my MacBook Pros & use 30" Apple & HP Displays that are matte. I don't like the mirrored reflections of the non-matte screens. That is my preference & that of many others.

You have your preference for your reasons. That is ok with me as long as I can have mine my way you should be able to have yours your way. Some would like the choice with all Macs not just a few.
 
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