I realize that. Just saying I'm not upgrading my phone, and many others won't either, until the contract is up.
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Apple to Cut iPhone 6s and 6s Plus Production by 30% in Q1 2016
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iOS 9 is so poorly optimized, the user interface often stutters on my 6S Plus, maybe that's one of the reasons as to why sales aren't as high as expected. I find it absurd that the latest iPhone that's supposedly very powerful in processing power fails to deliver a buttery smooth interface on Apple's proprietary OS.
P.S. I thought it was just a problem with mine, but after checking all the iPhone 6S/Pluses in store, they all had very noticeable frame rate stutters.
P.S. I thought it was just a problem with mine, but after checking all the iPhone 6S/Pluses in store, they all had very noticeable frame rate stutters.
People don't get excited about the S model as much these days other than regular people like me who upgrade.
With my mates the 6 had the same buzz about the PS4 when it came out everybody wanted to know if it was good.
Two year contacts may be a reason and the fact there's never an over all design overhaul in the S model. People probably think a 6 is a 6 and a 5 is a 5 not much changes. And really it's true as I did upgrade but I don't use Live Photos or Touch ID. 4K video I tend to avoid on my 16GB phone too. The 7 will have all these features so people are happy to wait.
Apple are in a cross roads pressure to release the watch and now IPad pro however they are relietivey niche products and expensive price tags compared to a phone which is on contract and IPads can be picked up so cheap second hand or just waiting for a sale and getting an older model.
What Apple needs is a product we all need. The iPad pro won't take off until it can run OSX. They need to make the new phone much thinner and introduce something new like FaceTime or IBooks. IOS10 needs major innovation as I couldn't tell you much what was new between 8 or 9 iOS other than the video split screen on the IPad Air 2.
With my mates the 6 had the same buzz about the PS4 when it came out everybody wanted to know if it was good.
Two year contacts may be a reason and the fact there's never an over all design overhaul in the S model. People probably think a 6 is a 6 and a 5 is a 5 not much changes. And really it's true as I did upgrade but I don't use Live Photos or Touch ID. 4K video I tend to avoid on my 16GB phone too. The 7 will have all these features so people are happy to wait.
Apple are in a cross roads pressure to release the watch and now IPad pro however they are relietivey niche products and expensive price tags compared to a phone which is on contract and IPads can be picked up so cheap second hand or just waiting for a sale and getting an older model.
What Apple needs is a product we all need. The iPad pro won't take off until it can run OSX. They need to make the new phone much thinner and introduce something new like FaceTime or IBooks. IOS10 needs major innovation as I couldn't tell you much what was new between 8 or 9 iOS other than the video split screen on the IPad Air 2.
People don't get excited about the S model as much these days other than regular people like me who upgrade.
With my mates the 6 had the same buzz about the PS4 when it came out everybody wanted to know if it was good.
Two year contacts may be a reason and the fact there's never an over all design overhaul in the S model. People probably think a 6 is a 6 and a 5 is a 5 not much changes. And really it's true as I did upgrade but I don't use Live Photos or Touch ID. 4K video I tend to avoid on my 16GB phone too. The 7 will have all these features so people are happy to wait.
Apple are in a cross roads pressure to release the watch and now IPad pro however they are relietivey niche products and expensive price tags compared to a phone which is on contract and IPads can be picked up so cheap second hand or just waiting for a sale and getting an older model.
What Apple needs is a product we all need. The iPad pro won't take off until it can run OSX. They need to make the new phone much thinner and introduce something new like FaceTime or IBooks. IOS10 needs major innovation as I couldn't tell you much what was new between 8 or 9 iOS other than the video split screen on the IPad Air 2.
With my mates the 6 had the same buzz about the PS4 when it came out everybody wanted to know if it was good.
Two year contacts may be a reason and the fact there's never an over all design overhaul in the S model. People probably think a 6 is a 6 and a 5 is a 5 not much changes. And really it's true as I did upgrade but I don't use Live Photos or Touch ID. 4K video I tend to avoid on my 16GB phone too. The 7 will have all these features so people are happy to wait.
Apple are in a cross roads pressure to release the watch and now IPad pro however they are relietivey niche products and expensive price tags compared to a phone which is on contract and IPads can be picked up so cheap second hand or just waiting for a sale and getting an older model.
What Apple needs is a product we all need. The iPad pro won't take off until it can run OSX. They need to make the new phone much thinner and introduce something new like FaceTime or IBooks. IOS10 needs major innovation as I couldn't tell you much what was new between 8 or 9 iOS other than the video split screen on the IPad Air 2.
Wonder how much this has to do with the new pricing system, with carriers halting their subsidies. People were used to paying $200-$300 for a phone, and now they're looking at $700-$800 plus. Even with payment plans and supposed reductions in data plans, it just seems like a lot of money.
Maybe there is pent up demand for the rumored 4" iPhone 6s (small s - get it?), so they're getting ready for it!
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So what exactly is this 30%? 30% of what? Apple hasn't provided any guidance for the March or June quarters so how do we know what this rumored cut represents? As I posted earlier the WSJ ran a similar story back in Janauary 2013 which as far as anyone knows never panned out.
I find it amusing that Apple hasn't reported their December quarter nor any guidance for the March quarter yet this thread is full of people explaining why the 6S isn't selling. Perhaps people should wait for Apple to report first?
I find it amusing that Apple hasn't reported their December quarter nor any guidance for the March quarter yet this thread is full of people explaining why the 6S isn't selling. Perhaps people should wait for Apple to report first?
To be honest I'm amazed the S models are ever met with that much excitement. The 4S brought some big technological improvements (dual core chip, better camera/lens), but the headline feature was Siri which was pretty useless at the time (and still pretty useless now to be honest). The 5s was the same (A7 64-bit chip, much better graphics, better camera/flash) with TouchID as the headline feature which again, didn't really set the world on fire at the time (but has now come into it's own). The 6s continues the tradition (massive improvement in the A9 and GPU, 2GB RAM) with 3D touch as the headline. Once again, not many people use the headline feature after giving it an initial try and the phone doesn't feel that much faster than the older model. However, when iOS10 launches, the 6s will still feel fresh and hopefully 3D touch will become more important compared to the 6 which will suddenly feel a lot slower.
As has been said before, those who don't upgrade every year will appreciate the 6s - I came from a 5s and love the 6s so far and appreciate that 3D touch and the A9 may not reach their potential for a year.
As has been said before, those who don't upgrade every year will appreciate the 6s - I came from a 5s and love the 6s so far and appreciate that 3D touch and the A9 may not reach their potential for a year.
Unless you have the battery saver mode on all day, what battery are you really saving? Battery saver mode isn't specific to the 6s, so if you think it's doing good for the smaller 6s battery, think of the wonders it would work on the 6.
Either way, I have seen a drop in battery performance.
Only Apple knows what is possible with their technology and what is not. What they have stated though, is that the screen has extra hardware that allows it to temporarily become much brighter than the screen can be when on full brightness and during normal use. This extra hardware enables the screen to become super bright long enough to take a photo. This hardware is not present in older iPhones. Now, if Apple were to code iOS 9 for older iPhones to use the backlight to take a picture using it as a front-facing flash, the results would be much worse than on the iPhone 6s where the hardware is designed for such a feature. Saying it's all software is just completely untrue. Live photos may also require extra hardware, such as the faster chip, or something in the camera hardware that enables that feature. Don't assume it's all software.
Very similar experience to you. Right down to the sister loving the Rose Gold model haha
I also agree that the curve is getting smaller and smaller. With the subsidization going away and phones getting more and more expensive, this may turn out to be a good thing from a consumer perspective
I know that's so ironic. And when iOS 9 first came out, it was so bad I rated it a zero.
Because the 6/6Plus were incredible releases and still are ( i miss mine).
I upgraded to the 6S just out of habit and the truth is i had more attachment to the 6 than i do to the 6S which is just...meh
Also the general public will only upgrade if the device looks noticeably different AND their contract is up.
I upgraded to the 6S just out of habit and the truth is i had more attachment to the 6 than i do to the 6S which is just...meh
Also the general public will only upgrade if the device looks noticeably different AND their contract is up.
Good point. A 30% reduction from the prior quarter would be expected, what with a new model and the holidays. That probably happens every year. Now, 30% reduction from the prior year's quarter, that might be an issue...
You're wasting your breath... seems people here are more worried about complaining and justifying rumors than using logic and thinking clearly.
True... but it was gonna happen sometime.
NO company can grow sales... year over year... forever.
Wall Street must know that.
First they move the headphone jack to the bottom, now they'll remove it completely! Innovation baby.
This happen when there is a company that think most at the thin of the phone and not at the rest of the phone.
6s is significantly and noticeably faster than 6.... Anyone who says otherwise is either being a troll or is not in tune with reality.So you dont know any difference with the Ram ? Do you have a 6S or 6S Plus ?
I was thinking about getting the 6S Plus and performance improvement from the ram was the main factor.
but there's seems to be a good amount of people here who are saying it's not that much different.
3d touch is fantastic.. It a new paradigm... Once u get used to using it... U will love it.
But most people hate learning new things....
I don't put it on all day, but usually at around 10-20% (when those notifications pop up) an that adds an extra hour or so battery life. I usually get home with about 30% battery (same with the 6 when it was my daily driver) so I never need to use it most days unless I am testing the battery out for fun. I would imagine for a 6 user on iOS 9, it would be similar. The thing is, the 6 only has a ~5% larger battery. In real work use that is negligible. Your initial post would have someone thinking the 6 has 2x the battery capacity or something significant.
Both phones give the user "all day" battery with general use, at least for myself and others. I cannot comment as to what your uses are (for example, perhaps you don't use LTE or you do use bluetooth, or if you have an Apple watch those seem to suck battery life away - when I owned one, in my experience it did)
But again, you're not appreciating how small a difference ~5% is. They both offer similar battery life, is my point. The Phone 6 is not in some other tier of battery performance because it has a 5% larger capacity battery and more power hungry components.
Obviously your experience with the 6s has been different, so I can't say your experiences are wrong - there is a chance you have a faulty battery or there is a bug you are experiencing leading to battery to drain,
but what I am trying to get at is the differences are so marginal between the 6 and 6s between battery life (and those differences are offset by the more power efficient chips in the 6s) that you should not be getting wildly different battery life in real time use. They should be the same, or similar.
If you are getting differences, then its not because of the 5% smaller capacity, but something wrong with either your software or hardware.