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I never upgraded to the last aTV because of the missing TOSlink and no 4K, so this one I'll definitely get. Will need it for Amazon's new video app, which I'm guessing will come out with it, as well as Apple Music support.

This seems to be a good HDMI (4K) to HDMI (4k)/TOSlink converter: https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Optical-Extractor-Converter-Splitter/dp/B017B6WFP8 Other suggestions?

Does your TV have optical out on the back? Most do, I think. Since the HDMI connection will be feeding the TV audio, the optical can then just re-output it to whatever you need.
 
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...but i'm also excited about the new iPhone since I ran my 6s over in my jeep the other day...

Something tells me you deliberatly did this in order to justify to your better half about getting an iPhone 8 in a few weeks.

Otherwise, you get a Darwin nomination as I don't know anyone who has ever driven over their phone and actually admitted it.
 
Just read today that the new Nikon 850, while recording video in 4K will allow stop motion capture at 8K. We'll be here again in a year or two when 8k ATV launches trying to decide if 8K is twice or four times the resolution of 4K (4X or 16X HD??? and whether or not it's noticeably better :)
4x, but I hear ya. Also, I think it's 8k time lapse. I haven't done the math, but whatever the resolution of the entire sensor would be its stop motion capability.
 
It's puzzling how the entire world misses something so obvious !

Or doesn't care?
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well you cant blame Apple for that now can you? not everybody is living in ISP hell like you are, and why should the rest of us, who Can and do have uncapped data, suffer because some people are stuck with companies like comcast?

It's cute how you think your uncapped data plan will go on forever...
 
Hopefully they will upgrade already-purchased movies.
Highly unlikely. Remember that not Apple but the studios are setting the price policies, so they'll very likely be the same as on Vudu, which already offers UHD; it's typically $5-$15 more expensive than the HD version, and there is no upgrade option for movies you already own.
 
Never be first, never be last just be the best lol

That’s always arguable, as there will always be features that Apple doesn’t prioritize. What they are is reliable at producing a decent product, supporting it, and ensuring that it works well with their other offerings. That happens to be a winning combination for me, and I’m eagerly looking forward to picking up a 4K HDR Apple TV when such a thing is available.
 
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They are 400 bucks now. How low do you need them to go?????
For many users, 4K makes no difference when sitting from a typical distance in an average living room. It's not until you get above 72-80" when sitting 8ft away that you can enjoy more of the benefits of 4K. Users with larger living rooms will need even bigger TVs to enjoy the resolution increase from 12ft away. There are calculators online that show what resolution you can see from what distance depending on your vision (20/20, etc). Furthermore, to get HDR you often have to spend even more. Show me a 72"+ 4K HDR TV for $400 and I will hug you. Smart consumers realize that 4K is mostly hype until you get to bigger sizes unless you're using it in a small room or on a desk as a computer monitor where you sit close. I love my 5K iMac at work but can't tell it apart from my 2012 iMac, except for color and contrast, viewed from across my office.
 
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Where I live, if you want internet. You get Comcast. Period.
I will trade you. If you want internet where I live you get a company called American Broadband (ABB). They buy small mostly rural ISP's combine them to cut cost and then do nothing about upgrading service, because they don't have to. No one large wants a bunch of 3-5000 customer regions that are the size of a small state.
 
"The new 4K HDR Apple TV - perfect for AirPlaying 4K 60fps video from your iPhone Edition camera!"

Please let this be a line they use at the keynote!

they'll save 60 fps 4k for the next Apple tv after this one. 4k ,in itself for apple tv, should have been released with the 6s
 
For many users, 4K makes no difference when sitting from a typical distance in an average living room. It's not until you get above 72-80" when sitting 8ft away that you can enjoy more of the benefits of 4K. Users with larger living rooms will need even bigger TVs to enjoy the resolution increase from 12ft away. There are calculators online that show what resolution you can see from what distance depending on your vision (20/20, etc).
There are calculators inside my eyeballs that show that 4k does in fact look much better on my 55 inch TV from more than 8 feet away. Don't fall for the hype - they just want to trick you into spending more money on a bigger TV ;)
 
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I just upgraded my TV after 10 years. Picked up a Sony OLED. Honestly, I've been quite shocked at how amazing 4K HDR on an OLED is. Looking forward to the 4K ATV.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong.. but 8,294,400 is 4x 2,073,600, correct?

Yes, and that's why marketing people are allowed to get away with claiming UHD is 4 times better than HD when most people who work with resolutions accept the convention that it's 2x the resolution, because it only gives 2x the power to resolve fine detail.
 
I may get this version and move the ATV3 to another TV.

I hope they'll announce the Amazon Prime app at the same event.
 
You don't say!

What we really want to know is: did Jony fix the remote or is he doubling down on the bad symmetrical design?
Fortunately, the Harmony Remote seems to pick up most of the functions of the ATV touch remote pretty well.
 
I guess I need to buy 4k HDR TV before I get too excited about this. ;) Does 4k HDR even make a big difference compared to 1080p?

Mostly No, because what we tend to gain in resolution we lose in compression. A 4K UltraBlueRay, sure, a 4K PS4 Pro/Xbox One X mostly you see much better backgrounds but foregrounds start looking chunky like they were a previous non-HD generation. 2D games, photos and artwork look fantastic however, even without HDR.

To get a really usable 4K experience from streaming, everyone needs to have at least 100Mbit fiber, and until that happens, most 4K screens will be sold as a half-step upgrade towards 8K UHD while compression catches up. Like a 4K experience from conventional cable is impossible because many cable systems still broadcast MPEG-2 (h262) streams to be backwards compatible with old hardware they won't upgrade. Likewise ATSC, we were in such a hurry to sell off the TV spectrum to mobile networks, that 4K, let alone 8K will never be available to more than a few cities (ATSC 3.0 only started this year at 4K and there is no broadcasting content in the US, only Korea) and those capable of receiving it will get a highly compressed signal that only makes it "better than 1080i", but little else.

Hence the future is streaming apps and "channels", we're still being shorted by geofencing however of streams and that will have to end if content providers want piracy to drasticly be cut. Current piracy boxes based on Android (typically nVidia Shield since they're more powerful) are 95% SD content, and the rare HD and 4K content often takes as long to discover as it does to watch, so legit streaming services (eg netflix) still have an upper hand, but the compression of legit services is often worse than Blueray, so until that changes, the appeal of streaming 4K content will be rather low.
 
Mostly No, because what we tend to gain in resolution we lose in compression. A 4K UltraBlueRay, sure, a 4K PS4 Pro/Xbox One X mostly you see much better backgrounds but foregrounds start looking chunky like they were a previous non-HD generation. 2D games, photos and artwork look fantastic however, even without HDR.

To get a really usable 4K experience from streaming, everyone needs to have at least 100Mbit fiber, and until that happens, most 4K screens will be sold as a half-step upgrade towards 8K UHD while compression catches up. Like a 4K experience from conventional cable is impossible because many cable systems still broadcast MPEG-2 (h262) streams to be backwards compatible with old hardware they won't upgrade. Likewise ATSC, we were in such a hurry to sell off the TV spectrum to mobile networks, that 4K, let alone 8K will never be available to more than a few cities (ATSC 3.0 only started this year at 4K and there is no broadcasting content in the US, only Korea) and those capable of receiving it will get a highly compressed signal that only makes it "better than 1080i", but little else.

Hence the future is streaming apps and "channels", we're still being shorted by geofencing however of streams and that will have to end if content providers want piracy to drasticly be cut. Current piracy boxes based on Android (typically nVidia Shield since they're more powerful) are 95% SD content, and the rare HD and 4K content often takes as long to discover as it does to watch, so legit streaming services (eg netflix) still have an upper hand, but the compression of legit services is often worse than Blueray, so until that changes, the appeal of streaming 4K content will be rather low.

Holy jeez... Why does it all have to be so complicated Lol. Sometimes I hate the tech industry. So many inconsistencies and deception. I mean, that can be said for a lot of industries but still.

I hate how this knowledge is so hard to get ahold of.
 
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