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Apple to Hire 4,000 Employees in Hyderabad, India to Work on Maps Development

bladerunner2000 said:
LOL, yeah, Apple clearly gives a damn about creating jobs in America.
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And how about google not giving a damn who already has 6,500 employees in Hyderabad alone, and will soon be doubling that. Right... google along with loads of other US companies in India "hate" America too. You are aggressively taking them to task as well, right?
 
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AmPat said:
Traitorous RATS. What about employing Americans? What the hell is all this employment for INDIANS? I hope Trump nails Cook's ass to the floor and taxes the hell out of Apple until they remember who they are, where they are, and where they came from. Not to mention who has made them so very wealthy. America and Americans! That's who. He's traded away American Jobs. If I had my way he'd be horse whipped for this. Wake up America!
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Gotta love all the Newbie vitriol!
 
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Kajje said:
There is no way this area has 4,000 geospatial engineers for the grabs.
Basically he says "We will be hiring thousands of peasants to manually enter stuff into the database which we cannot possibly scan or automate in any other way"
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Article doesn't 4000 geospatial engineers, it says 4000 workers.
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madoka said:
You hire Indians in mass, not because they're good, but because they are cheap.
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Because they're cheap and good.
 
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Even 15 years ago they didn't use that type of phone. I wonder if he wanted the hotline to look like the bat phone lol
 
Makes sense not only in India but in China and other countries. Any idea that US has a monopoly of intelligence has always been wrong, of course. Both India and China graduate more engineers in a year than the US graduates in a decade. I've met many, and many have come to the US for a time. Those I've met far outclass most comparably employed Americans.
 
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Jax44 said:
Gotta love all the Newbie vitriol!
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Yes, the world revolves around USA, USA USA and I like it here, but just even a hint of objectivity would be welcome.

Just looking at a globe would tell even the d****est that we are not alone.
 
Sorry, but it does not take 4,000 employees to work on a Maps application...granted there are some non-technical managers and HR folk...the actual number of employees diligently working on a Maps application should hover somewhere around 1000 at most. Depending on exactly what Apple is doing, Apple should only need:

100 developers
5-10 developer managers
1 Product Manager
300-400 people driving around in cars recording the routes, pictures, video, etc.
100 people to tag/input/validate information going into the Maps database(s)
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611 people on the high side...add a few hundred more drivers depending on how quickly you want to "map" everything out and/or what regions/states you want to do quickest/first.


Apple is years behind Google and other Map apps/companies. Apple should just throw in the towel...concentrate on building a great product/OS and let the 3rd party app developers prosper. Sure, the OS needs to come with some useful apps but Maps doesn't need to be the world leader...and it's clear Apple Maps is far from the best. It doesn't need to be the best unless of course Apple wishes to market/advertise to you and track you all day long (gasp! would Apple EVER do that? Noooooo. /sarcasm)
 
Cole Slaw said:
Wonder how long it'll be till Apple moves it's customer service to India.
Tim's up for anything that'll save a few bucks.
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Right - I mean with razor thin margins and barely any profit being made, plus the high taxes they pay...you can understand his position. Right. Un. Effing Amazing. :(

Thunderhawks said:
Yes, the world revolves around USA, USA USA and I like it here, but just even a hint of objectivity would be welcome.

Just looking at a globe would tell even the d****est that we are not alone.
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Objectively? You mean how people here in the USA would prefer that jobs and stuff stay here so our people make out good? That objectivity? Sorry but India can create their own economy and get things rolling. The people(past & some present) of the USA are what make us what we are today. Other countries that are struggling or whatever can do the same. Or, they can piss and moan about how bad they got it. Their choice.
 
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Herr Trumpf is not going to like this.....he may want to declare war against India.


In line with previous rumors and confirmations, Apple today announced the opening of a new development center in Hyderabad, India focused on Apple Maps development.

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WaveRock campus in Hyderabad, India​

The new center, launched in partnership with RMSI, will employ up to 4,000 workers, with the announcement coming as part of Tim Cook's ongoing trip to China and India.According to previous reports, the new center at Tishman Speyer's WaveRock campus in Hyderabad is 250,000 square feet, with Apple investing $25 million in the project.

The news comes a day after Apple announced plans to open an iOS App Design and Development Accelerator in Bangalore, India. That center, intended to aid Indian app developers in adopting Apple's Swift programming language and help with development and one-on-one app reviews, is planned to open early next year.

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ericinboston said:
Sorry, but it does not take 4,000 employees to work on a Maps application...granted there are some non-technical managers and HR folk...the actual number of employees diligently working on a Maps application should hover somewhere around 1000 at most. Depending on exactly what Apple is doing, Apple should only need:

100 developers
5-10 developer managers
1 Product Manager
300-400 people driving around in cars recording the routes, pictures, video, etc.
100 people to tag/input/validate information going into the Maps database(s)
------------
611 people on the high side...add a few hundred more drivers depending on how quickly you want to "map" everything out and/or what regions/states you want to do quickest/first.


Apple is years behind Google and other Map apps/companies. Apple should just throw in the towel...concentrate on building a great product/OS and let the 3rd party app developers prosper. Sure, the OS needs to come with some useful apps but Maps doesn't need to be the world leader...and it's clear Apple Maps is far from the best. It doesn't need to be the best unless of course Apple wishes to market/advertise to you and track you all day long (gasp! would Apple EVER do that? Noooooo. /sarcasm)
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...You realize that Apple has been working for years towards integrating AR into maps right?

You have no idea what kind of resources they need in order to pull this vision off:

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...s-compass-feature-with-augmented-reality.html

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akfgpuppet said:
They should have had this many employees working on Maps before they released the application.
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As part of the job interview, all applicants had to find their way using only Apple Maps in India.
4000 succeeded because they also had an Android phone with Google Maps.
This is how cheating gets you a nice job ...
 
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v0lume4 said:
I really don't see how anyone can spin this as anything other than blatant outsourcing.
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I think Yelp has had a feature similar to this for years.
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If you're describing the monocle overlay, that's a small fraction of the total experience Apple has in the works. When it actually get's deployed, who knows.
 
citysnaps said:
And how about google not giving a damn who already has 6,500 employees in Hyderabad alone, and will soon be doubling that. Right... google along with loads of other US companies in India "hate" America too. You are aggressively taking them to task as well, right?
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Good tactic: deflection.
 
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I strongly believe Apple's "downfall" is their lack of investing into machine learning. I noticed it with Google Now. I finally saw the light when Google launched their version of Photos last year.

Apple has to do more than make superior hardware (yes, their hardware is still superior to every body else). All their innovation has been in the hardware, not so much the software.
 
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SJ was always incredibly proud that all principle engineering took place in California. The only small exceptions were for companies that were acquired but left in place where they were founded. Tim is dismantling his legacy piece by piece. What's left of the company in ten years will be unrecognizeable other than the logo.
 
Golly gee. I wonder if some of the redicilous commenters in this thread know about the ginormous Apple HQ being built in Cupertino (I think that is the U.S.) which will house 13K employees, in addition to the 2600 at the Infinity Loop offices. Then there is the 7K employees in Texas. If you want to toss in retail add another 30K employees. And that is just a sample of direct hiring. There are a lot of U.S. companies that feed off of Apple and have significant contributions to U.S. employment.

Just because a company is based in the U.S. doesn't mean it must is bound to only having offices, creative labs, and employees here. And when it has legally permissible outside offices it's not a betrayal to the country. It means they are running a global business.
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weup togo said:
SJ was always incredibly proud that all principle engineering took place in California. The only small exceptions were for companies that were acquired but left in place where they were founded. Tim is dismantling his legacy piece by piece. What's left of the company in ten years will be unrecognizeable other than the logo.
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That is like saying Ford execs should be running that company today just as Henry Ford ran it in 1945. Companies do not live in a vacuum. They must compete and it's leaders must adapt. Business is very much Darwinian.

Even SJ was proud that Apple products were built and designed in CA until one day he changed his mind because it wasn't sustainable. ;)
 
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What a shame that our US Government has forced this to happen all in the name of saving the children and protecting the ignorant.
 
bladerunner2000 said:
LOL, yeah, Apple clearly gives a damn about creating jobs in America.
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Exactly. I am beginning to rethink my apple product purchasers. Supposed US company, that takes profits to Ireland to reduce taxes in US. Manufactures products in China reducing US work force. And now moves technical development to India. US company my ass.

I know they are not breaking laws. I know they are building a campus in Cupertino. I am not aware this will mean employing more , just housing them together. I get dismayed seeing more jobs going overseas. I am dismayed when help lines are in India and Pakistan and I can barely understand the people. This may be the changes going to world economy but I don't have to like it.

Darwinian evolution is the process of how we got here. But I agree with Richard Dawkins, that it's not the best way for people to run their society. Evolution is indiscriminate in the culling it makes. People and business don't have to follow that model with each other.
 
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Chupa Chupa said:
Then there is the 7K employees in Texas.
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AppleCare and Finance have always been in Austin, and the only engineering expansion there was due to acquiring semiconductor companies, and hiring senior engineers from TI & co.

You're conflating employees and engineering employees. Virtually all engineering has always taken place in California, and SJ believed to his core it was one of Apple's key strengths. Deliberately setting up a new engineering shop anywhere else is a complete 180, and doing it in India is a total disaster.
 
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