Apple to Host 'Back to the Mac' Media Event on October 20th

zeemeerman2 said:
Retina display... I don't think so. It's kinda expensive for such a large screen as the Mac screens...
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Really ? A 13" laptop would require what ? A 150 dpi screen to achieve the "Retina" effect ? The Sony Vaio Z 13.3" screen at 1920x1080 is 168 dpi.

Spare me the "too expensive".
 
zeemeerman2 said:
The 1000st reply. Congratulations!

Retina display... I don't think so. It's kinda expensive for such a large screen as the Mac screens...
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Thanks for the congrads. The display would look amazing if it had a retina display with ATI Chips. they would have to make Blu Ray for it
 
KnightWRX said:
Really ? A 13" laptop would require what ? A 150 dpi screen to achieve the "Retina" effect ? The Sony Vaio Z 13.3" screen at 1920x1080 is 168 dpi.

Spare me the "too expensive".
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I could see it being standard on the 11", and an option on the 13; correct me if I'm wrong, there already is an option for a hi-rez display on the 17".
 
KnightWRX said:
I use Dashboard widgets daily. Weather, notes, that CPU/Mem/Disk/Net usage one.
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I said buy, not use.

Personally I'd rather use SimpleNote to coordinate Notes with to my mobile devices. Weather widgets? I look at my iPhone. CPU/Mem etc is covered by iStat Menu.

I have difficult time convincing developers to develop and test a Dashboard app in addition to an iOS app because the ecosystem is so much bigger for iOS devices. Dashboard is dead.

Let me use iOS apps across multiple platforms no matter what device I'm using.

It doesn't cannibalize sales of other iOS devices. Apple has proven they are interested in making an ecosystem and platform for people to develop on, and that is the differentiator. Not the hardware. I own an iPhone because of the apps. Not because of the phone.

Apple needs more and more developers buying into getting their apps on Mac and Windows users that don't currently use iPads or iPhones for a host of reasons.
 
Homerpalooza said:
I'd love to see Dashboard have an option of running iOS on it. Let me run my iOS apps on my laptop or Mac. I mean, who really is buying "Dashboard Widgets" today?

Mike
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That's a brilliant idea. And as for cannibalizing, I think the draw of iOS devices is their portability. Offering the same apps in place of Dashboard widgets would only bring more app store sales and more exposure to iOS, likely increasing iOS device sales.
 
Do you guys think it'll be available right on the 20th? or is it going to be a "shipping by the end of the month" deal?
 
Homerpalooza said:
I said buy, not use.
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Why is buying a requirement in your eyes ? free Dashboard widgets are fine. I don't see why this can't just be a bullet point feature instead of another way to yet again force micro transactions yet again on the user.

And no, I wouldn't want a iOS emulator there. If I want a iOS emulator, first I already have one, next it should be under /Applications.
 
knewsom said:
I could see it being standard on the 11", and an option on the 13; correct me if I'm wrong, there already is an option for a hi-rez display on the 17".
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The 15" actually, but it's just a very normal 1680x1050. It's not a "hi-rez" display, it's what should come standard on the darn thing. The 17" only has a 1920x1200 screen, no option for more.

Both are under the 130 dpi line. Far too low to be called "hi-rez" these days. However, contrary to the poster I was replying to, a laptop does not require a 326 dpi screen to get a "Retina display". That's a very common misconception about what a Retina display is (hint : it's a marketing buzzword, it's not a scientific measure of anything).
 
KnightWRX said:
Really ? A 13" laptop would require what ? A 150 dpi screen to achieve the "Retina" effect ? The Sony Vaio Z 13.3" screen at 1920x1080 is 168 dpi.

Spare me the "too expensive".
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uh, the iphone is over 300 and is quite expensive. I know the dispuite about what is"retina display":
"So, if a normal human eye can discriminate two points separated by 1 arcminute/cycle at a distance of a foot, we should be able to discriminate two points 89 micrometers apart which would work out to about 287 pixels per inch. Since the iPhone 4G display is comfortably higher than that measure at 326 pixels per inch, I’d find Apple’s claims stand up to what the human eye can perceive." from:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/25/retina_display_claims_upheld/

Regardless, getting that level of dpi in a 13" screen will cost you an organ, a lung, and a...retina.
 
FuNGi said:
uh, the iphone is over 300 and is quite expensive. I know the dispuite about what is"retina display":
"So, if a normal human eye can discriminate two points separated by 1 arcminute/cycle at a distance of a foot, we should be able to discriminate two points 89 micrometers apart which would work out to about 287 pixels per inch. Since the iPhone 4G display is comfortably higher than that measure at 326 pixels per inch, I’d find Apple’s claims stand up to what the human eye can perceive." from:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/25/retina_display_claims_upheld/

Regardless, getting that level of dpi in a 13" screen will cost you an organ, a lung, and a...retina.
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You don't hold a 13" laptop screen at the same distance you hold a 3.5" phone screen from your eye.

You're not understanding what a Retina Display means. Re-read your own article about it.
 
I like how in the buyers guide for the MacBook Air it says Don't Buy - Updates soon and has said that for 230 days and counting :p

I am wishing for a new Hi-Res MacBook Pro 15"
 
goncode said:
Do you guys think it'll be available right on the 20th? or is it going to be a "shipping by the end of the month" deal?
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No way they will sell it in a month. The developers need to adjust and prepare their software for the new OS X, which will take some time. You see, the OS's new features are there to be used by the developers (including Apple itself.)

First it will be available to developers as beta software, then after a few months (probably a year) it'll be available to the public.

My guess is that the release date will be announced on the next WWDC (in June?). If we're lucky they might release it on the WWDC itself.
 
I had to join the forums just to post this and reply to some of you... A few of you are getting a bit to fantastical with your replies here...

Let's break it down like this

Almost Guaranteed 90%+
  • iLife '11
  • New OS X (10.7) "Lion" - Most likely will not be OS XI-- that I believe will use the "cloud technology". However one person did post that this did allude to "back to my mac" which is a bit like Cloud technology... I doubt it though.

Likely 50-89%
  • Some kind of new hardware/hardware refresh- Most likely something with the MBA's possibly finding middle ground with the MBP and releasing a thinner MBP as well as a 10" netbook that doesn't have a diskdrive.
  • Something with the iMac maybe?

Unlikely 1-49%
  • A "one more thing" about the CDMA iPhone rumors flying around... This will probably get it's own keynote closer to December... Who knows?
  • White iPhone- Not like it's not going to happen... the store on Apple.com already has it listed... I just don't think this keynote will be the venue for it's launch... In fact I don't think there will be a MAJOR announcement.

There's a Better Chance that Apple stocks open at $0.25 Tomorrow 0%
  • 3D Technology - No, no, no, no and no. Apple is smarter than that... I think the fact that they have yet to jump on to Blueray shows Apple's patience with new technology. 3D is borderline fad at the moment and for Apple to devote a new line of computers to something that could eventually blow over, or could be extreme niche (I personally hate 3D), is extremely risky. I don't think 3D has a big enough share on the technology field for Apple to want to throw a whole new generation of computers out there...
  • Touch Screen - Doubt it... Touch screen computers are something that will (hopefully) never come to fruition. They are riding their flagship iPad hard right now and I don't think they would jeopardize sales of that new sector to releasing a computer with touch screen. If anything we'll be seeing updates to iPad in the 2nd quarter of next year...



As for the other comments...

10.7 will most likely end the OS X saga... I think OS XI will help break through in a new computing interface... as mentioned before Cloud.

If they do go to cloud I do like the idea of Cloud names as the new OS's buttttttt...

The constellation idea was pretty bad ass... Mac OS XI 10.1 Orion :D
 
goncode said:
Do you guys think it'll be available right on the 20th? or is it going to be a "shipping by the end of the month" deal?
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ehhhh??? Do you really think 10.7 will be out this month LOL, if it is I will be very impressed but I'm 95% certain it will be next year launch. Perhaps a ADC Developer copy WOOT for my ADC Membership & my guess would be an April/May Launch perhaps like they intended Leopard to be in 2007, still got postponed to 26th October 07
 
tnick777 said:
Almost Guaranteed 90%+
  • New OS X (10.7) "Lion" - Most likely will not be OS XI-- that I believe will use the "cloud technology". However one person did post that this did allude to "back to my mac" which is a bit like Cloud technology... I doubt it though.

Likely 50-89%
  • Some kind of new hardware/hardware refresh- Most likely something with the MBA's possibly finding middle ground with the MBP and releasing a thinner MBP as well as a 10" netbook that doesn't have a diskdrive.
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Actually, what I was saying was that some variation of Back To My Mac may get tied into the cloud experience, particularly for Mobile Me subscribers, through the new Apple Data Farm. This would hopefully go beyond just keeping our media libraries mirrored on their servers.

I agree it's not a sure thing like iLife 11, but given the Back To The Mac / Back to My Mac parallels and seeing the local OS (Lion) as seen through/behind the Apple, I think it is quite possible that alot of our data will be hosted at and/or through the new data farm in North Carolina. They've got to use it for something, and TV rentals don't require the kind of horsepower and storage they've installed ... at least so far.
 
AidenShaw said:
My guess is the opposite - that x64 will be a requirement. Only a relatively small number of x86-only systems were sold, and they're all pretty old now.
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The Mac mini got the Core 2 Duo three years ago this month and I do not expect Mac OS X 10.7 to be out for another year so Apple will have no problem not supporting four year old hardware. The 32-bit Macs will run Mac OS X 10.6.x very well for many years to come.
 
Lesser Evets said:
Remember the initial idea about OSX in 1999? new operating system built from the ground up, meant to be trim and fast...

Look what happened. Since 10.2 the whole thing went to bloated crashy. They should make Lion/7 able to amputate large pieces of fluff function so people can run their computer without that garbage bogging down everything. I'd axe all the iChat nonsense, Spaces, Dashboard, Access/Crip stuff,Expose, Stacks, and probably 100 smaller items.

Just allow me an OSX with bare-bones search and connectivity. It could load in 5 seconds.
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why would anyone do that? Who wants something featureless? Mac OS X has been perfectly fine for me, been using Mac OS X since Jaguar. Although I did managed to get hold of an unused unopened copy of Mac OS X Puma, it will hopefully stay like that. But Leopard & snow leopard has ran perfectly fine on all my macs
 
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