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I suppose Ethernet - which meets my needs - is going down the drain as well!

You're 4 years late on this one. :)

So my guess is that now it's a dongle for my current USB printer, thumb drives and card router, a dongle for an SD card, a dongle for an Ethernet connection (if it supports it)...

Very annoying. (Though you can probably just replace the cable on your printer.)

Bet then, having ONE dongle for all these things including power would be amazing. Right now I'm plugging three things in or out whenever I move the MacBook.
 
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The 12" Retina MacBook will not be updated at the event, at this stage we can only assume everything else will be though.

Oh thats ok, anyways I am more interested in buying the 15" rMBP and hence only interested to know if they refresh that.
 
Is it just me, or are these rumors making anyone else roll their eyes at some of the "features"? Call me old school... Hell call me a crybaby, but who the hell needs a touch screen on a Macbook Pro?! My MBP is a work horse so a touch function would only handicap the accuracy I need when performing certain tasks. On a regular Macbook, fine. I just don't see it on the Pro.

Also, "thinner"... Really? My Pro is thin as hell, even with a hard case. Sometime I pick it up with one hand and worry it's gonna bend. When the hell do computers stop getting thin? Personally, I think the retinas are just fine. Any thinner is just nonsense, TO ME.

Then you have the rumor that essentially all ports will be removed. I love the idea of USBc, but I use the SD card slot full time and as the SD card space gets bigger, people are going to wish they could leave it in the slot full time, for that extra space. Damn them if they remove the headphone jack. As an on the go musician, I wouldn't be able to use a MBP without the 3.5mm jack. I also think removing the USB connection would be a big mistake. There has to be at least one. I think the HDMI comes in handy, but I guess I wouldn't poop my pants without it.

It's bad enough the trackpad is no longer mechanical, and that is another thing I need. Mainly due to muscle memory, I am faster with a mechanical trackpad. When editing and mixing music on the go, relying on a vibration to tell me I have clicked something, just doesn't cut it. Feeling the trackpad press in, is a much more efficient form of feedback.

I think, even for my crybaby self, there are some positives. One is the USBc to charge. It would be GREAT if they could make it magsafe though. That feature has save my Macbook enough times to buy a car with the money I'd have to spend repairing it. The other positive is the potential for the touch panel. If the artist renderings are correct, I can see that bar being of great use.

Sorry to be crying all over all of your Apple products. I just see more gimmick than I do necessity and I am VERY invested in not wanting to live to see the day where Apple products become novelty items. When Steve Jobs died, I figured the company would go in a very misguided direction. These rumors seem to confirm that that may begin to happen.

You know what would be nice, and is LOOOOOOOONG overdue?! A thinner bezel. But before the thinner bezel, we'll probably get refrigerated devices that cool the area where the palms rest...

When my 2014 retina dies, I will buy another 2014 retina, or have it fixed. I don't see myself owning any newer models for the foreseeable future.

For anyone who made it this far, thanks for taking the time to read my rant. You all have a great day!

I'm with you with a lot of what you've said. Once they've removed all type of physical and tactile feedback devices, I reckon they'll start having to put them back in again and say they are 'innovating' by actually putting in a real, physical, clickable devices once more.

I'm so tempted to resurrect my 1st gen iPod that had actually physical clickable buttons. I still miss them. I use my MacBook Pro for music also. I play drums, - and often have my in ears plugged into my iPhone as I play. There is nothing worse than trying to drag the slider back/forward or skip to the next song on my iPhone with sweaty hands after thrashing around the drums from holding my sticks. Physical buttons would be so much easier. I also need the headphone jack. The regular iPhone ear buds fall out my ears whilst I'm drumming, and don't provide any noise isolation. Wireless earbuds would be even worse. My in-ear monitors have a cable attached with a jack plug on the end. I like to plug in my power at the same time, as I may record several takes and you can guarantee my battery will die on either my iPhone or MacBook Pro just aa I'm about to nail the perfect take. My audio interface records 18 channels of 24bit audio at 192Khz without a single glitch - but for this you need WIRES!! If Apple are serious about wireless audio, they need to seriously look at how to pass multichannel uncompressed audio through the air. They think they have solved wireless audio with the airPods - this doesn't even scratch the surface.

Sorry rant over. If this next MacBook Pro doesn't have what I need, I think I'll have build a Hackintosh instead.
 
Is it just me, or are these rumors making anyone else roll their eyes at some of the "features"? Call me old school... Hell call me a crybaby, but who the hell needs a touch screen on a Macbook Pro?! My MBP is a work horse so a touch function would only handicap the accuracy I need when performing certain tasks. On a regular Macbook, fine. I just don't see it on the Pro.

I'm with you with a lot of what you've said. Once they've removed all type of physical and tactile feedback devices, I reckon they'll start having to put them back in again and say they are 'innovating' by actually putting in a real, physical, clickable devices once more.

I think the issue is, that the current state of computers, there's less that makes a Mac unique. Competitors have rolled out designs that mimic (or some case surpass) Apple, they also are running on newer or faster chipsets (Dell Kaby Lake, Alienware and razor have more robust GPUs) and Apple has already decided that full touchscreen displays is not for them, so what can they do? Put a tiny OLED bar on the keyboard, add USB-C/TB3 and of course make the laptop thinner.

I don't like the force touch trackpad, I don't like the new butterfly keyboards and I hope Apple doesn't drop magsafe which is a great feature, and finally SD ports. I seriously wonder if Apple is going in a direction that is counter to my needs and wants.
 
Great news. Just hope it was worth the wait!

I'm thinking min 256Gb storage topping out at 1Tb? I hope Apple really have beefed up the graphics. The new toys are all well and good, but it's still the core most people will use!

I think the 100% USB-C's will be annoying to many; even for basic things like Mice etc. I think even getting a Time machine capable HD will be a challenge for a while. I know a new WesternD Passport has just been announced that appears to be non-USB-C :( Oh my printer and Logitec Webcam won't work OOTB either . . . arse!

I guess we all have to just hold the faith for a while!
 
Apple has already decided that full touchscreen displays is not for them, so what can they do? Put a tiny OLED bar on the keyboard,

On touch screens Apple are 100% correct. I've yet to meet anyone with a touchscreen laptop or desktop who actually makes any significant use of the touchscreen element. Usually it is a distraction when people touch it by accident.

The OLED bar has potential I think. It could be user configurable for each program for example. That might just be awesome and great for productivity - I could see myself making use of that to speed up my workflow
 
I think the issue is, that the current state of computers, there's less that makes a Mac unique. Competitors have rolled out designs that mimic (or some case surpass) Apple, they also are running on newer or faster chipsets (Dell Kaby Lake, Alienware and razor have more robust GPUs) and Apple has already decided that full touchscreen displays is not for them, so what can they do? Put a tiny OLED bar on the keyboard, add USB-C/TB3 and of course make the laptop thinner.

I don't like the force touch trackpad, I don't like the new butterfly keyboards and I hope Apple doesn't drop magsafe which is a great feature, and finally SD ports. I seriously wonder if Apple is going in a direction that is counter to my needs and wants.

Yeah - I think Apple thinks that Pro users are fooled with gimmicks too, rather than thinking of speed, reliability, expandability being more important. For the best part, these are machines for 'getting things done' in the most efficient manner possible, rather than something to show off to your friends.
 
Don't worry. You can waste a few hundred $ on different dongles you then get to carry around with you to be able to connect anything. You'll have so many new apple logos everywhere you'll be bursting with joy - and might not notice they replaced the keyboard with a onscreen keyboard. It's almost like having a touchscreen!
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I'm pretty sure they'll ignore the market reaction and stick in that shallow useless piece of crap keyboard. And force us to buy a second laptop bag just for dongles. Because that's what pro users want? Or maybe just **** up the Air so people can buy ultrathin useless laptop if that's what they're after and leave the Pro model the hell alone. Or maybe add a new model that's something people can actually use. I guess it's off to Windows after all these years. No way in hell I'm using the shallow keyboard. They should at least offer a real keyboard as a configurable option.

They might increase the travel but you or point will still be valid. They haven't offered a visible configurable option in years, and since the keyboard is essential to the new thickness it is unlikely. There keyboards are currently all different and there is no longer the streamline great Apple keyboard which is a shame. They are really pushing a while market away from the Mac.
 
On touch screens Apple are 100% correct. I've yet to meet anyone with a touchscreen laptop or desktop who actually makes any significant use of the touchscreen element. Usually it is a distraction when people touch it by accident.
I do, I have a surfacebook, and I use the touchscreen quite often.

I was on the plane home from SF and next to me using a Surface Pro and she was using the touch screen, and I saw a fair amount of people using SB/SPs and touch screens in Oracle's Openworld.

While not a scientific study, clearly there are people who use them. I can understand your desire not to use them or understand its usefulness since Macs never had them in the first place.
 
I know, but it's a shame. I've been missing white on Macs ever since they introduced that first alu imac in 2007. I still don't like that black bezel....one of the reasons why I prefer the design of the MBA
Hmmm... I think Apple like the black bezel because it's modern and immersive. But thinking about it, a glossy white bezel would also look really good.
Personally, I don't mind but I do like large (although not ugly large) bezels as it keeps me focused on what I'm doing.
 
I hope Apple surprises us... but from the past years I am only expecting to be disappointed sadly... however I am in desperate need of an upgrade (my 17inch hinge snapped and is hanging on by the other, dead battery etc) so atleast I can get in with an upgraded model but still...
 
I do, I have a surfacebook, and I use the touchscreen quite often.

I was on the plane home from SF and next to me using a Surface Pro and she was using the touch screen, and I saw a fair amount of people using SB/SPs and touch screens in Oracle's Openworld.

While not a scientific study, clearly there are people who use them. I can understand your desire not to use them or understand its usefulness since Macs never had them in the first place.

Ahh right but that is designed to work without a keyboard yes ? You flip it over and use screen only. Thats a different class of device to a traditional laptop. If you couldn't flip the screen over and the keyboard was always in use would you use the touchscreen ? Thats what I mean. If they keyboard/trackpad is always there for use people will use that because then they don't have to read the screen through their hand imho.
 
I do, I have a surfacebook, and I use the touchscreen quite often.

I was on the plane home from SF and next to me using a Surface Pro and she was using the touch screen, and I saw a fair amount of people using SB/SPs and touch screens in Oracle's Openworld.

While not a scientific study, clearly there are people who use them. I can understand your desire not to use them or understand its usefulness since Macs never had them in the first place.
Thats very true, a touch screen makes for a more natural intersection with the computer as the used can 'seemlessly' change from using the trackpad to swiping on the screen. It is by no means a game changer to most but it is very useful, especially for the odd task now and then. It is not meant as the primary method of input.
It makes even more sense now there's the Apple Pencil. I think Apple doesn't do it for that reason hat because it messes up their designs - Kong I've mmut hate the idea of a foldable notebook.
 
Apples are becoming to underpowered and too over priced for me to justify them. Really thinking of building a hackintosh when this MBP becomes a little on the obsolete path.
 
On touch screens Apple are 100% correct. I've yet to meet anyone with a touchscreen laptop or desktop who actually makes any significant use of the touchscreen element. Usually it is a distraction when people touch it by accident.

The OLED bar has potential I think. It could be user configurable for each program for example. That might just be awesome and great for productivity - I could see myself making use of that to speed up my workflow

Touchscreen laptops have been rolled out in my company of about 3000 employees. I work in changing teams all the time, and have yet to see anyone using it. Most of these are IT consultants and those that I work with all hate the touchscreen, or rather the way the OS works with it.
 
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I honestly can't understand how they can stand there at keynotes going "look at how sleek and slender this wonderful machine is" knowing full well most users have hundreds (in some cases thousands) of dollars/pounds worth of peripherals plugged into these machines. Always absent from these keynotes are any images of the 15 dongles (exaggeration to prove the point) you'd need to hang off their newest machines to retain the functionality of your old machine.

It's sad really that even the average power user of Macs is being left wondering how much stuff they couldn't get done with modern Macs without jumping through hoops.

I'll probably never buy another Mac laptop unless the base spec is increased to a reasonably competitive level without having to fork out an additional £300 at least on top of their already high prices on RAM, storage, and maybe CPU upgrades at time of purchase. A computer isn't just an expensive toy for me, that I expect to replace every 2 years. I expect to get a few years good use out of such an expensive purchase.
 
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