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Apple to Let EU iPhone Users Delete Safari and More Easily Transition to Android
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Y’all keep claiming at anytime it’s locked down and I laugh because we aren’t trapped. We aren’t beholden to apple. I and millions of others can leave we choose not to because android is inferior.
The walled garden works for us because without it we would have the haphazard mess that is android.
Even google is slowly getting like apple. Still don’t ever want to use a lagdroid as my daily driver again but still.
I wish they’d pull out. It may hurt them in the short term but so many businesses run on apple. They would hurt the EU.
We already see android is crap for enterprise. Chromeos is barely suitable for education and google is not viable in fitness, entertainment, music, wearables.
Y'all? Laughing ? My point being that if one is to leave for any reason, the impossibly to transfer years of data makes it . Or if you need to work on dual platforms . Now , try to find a way to have years of data imported . I see no denying of such an evidence within your arguments either tbh
I don't deny the superiority and reliability of apple nor am I saying Google is better
I must say though, out of experience android is way less laggy than what you seem to be willing to believe
Defining a standard message format, while difficult considering how much crap Apple has stuffed into iMessage over the years, is relatively easy. There’s even a recent standard for encrypting messages: message layer security (MLS). The hard part is identity and key management. Who do you allow to send messages to your users? How do you verify FB/Signal/etc users? Just look at how spammy email is that a bunch of security properties had to be bolted on, and now at this point you pretty much need email hosted at a large corp or it won’t send through all the filters. (Not commenting on how much spam is or is not present already for iMessage/WhatsApp. But it will undoubtedly get worse if all the message platforms merge.)
I’d rather have third party client support than having these distinct message platforms have to hack things together. Then you can have your “all in one” app like Beeper tried to do. Not that Apple will ever willingly allow it for iMessage.
There are alternative app stores on Android than you can shake a stick at. I only use the PlayStore.
Ever consider an alternative app? Facebook is the only app I can think of that has no viable alternative. In which case, that's the trash taking itself out.😁
Copying files to and from android is 10,000x easier than iOS
Our iPhone exactly. There are iPhone owners who want alternative app stores. I don't care for another app store, but I support the choice.
Not a single chance. Apple avoids the bulk of it's global tax by being in Europe. They'll never leave over a few software tweaks they're forced to make only over here.
The is correct. That's why a set course menu is the most expensive meal at the most luxury restaurants. Now if the Appetisers are not good, then that's a problem. But for me to decide what is good in the restaurant? What's luxury about that?
I want to make ONE choice: which platform to go for. After that I want everything I need to work out-of-the-box. The choices given at every step after that is mostly an annoyance. Think of all the people who just tap skip, skip, skip during set up of their phone. That's most of them. They want everything working a quickly as possible, out of the box.
I have plenty of freedom and choice in the Apple ecosystem. Overwhelmed with choice, in fact. I prefer the integrity of the design and it’s functionality. The EU does good work on privacy. These sustained assaults on Apple have only to do with EU generating cash for itself with fines and bolstering the greed of other companies.
😱By this time next year, it might be possible for EU users to buy a brand-new iPhone, and replace Safari with Samsung Browser, replace the home screen with Xiaomi Launcher, swap Siri with Google Gemini, drop FaceTime in exchange for Google Duo (this physically pains me to type😖), etc., etc.
Thanks to the power of legislation, now you can create a phone that only an engagement-hungry tech YouTuber could love.
It’s bizarre the EU is compelling Apple, because of its success, to carry things on its « menu ». It’s about EU corporate greed, not « choice ». Those so-called choices are other companies simply wanting a taste of what Apple built. Has nothing to do with giving « choice » to people. The EU has done good work on privacy.
Based on what exactly? I’m quite happy being able to avoid google as much as I can. It’s certainly the more heinous and intrusive outfit. How about alternatives to Meta stuff and opening that all up.
Seems to me Apple’s choice is to say we run Apple software to make Apple hardware work. That’s what they’re selling and I’m buying. It’s a package. It works. Thank you
Symbian from Psion. Not bad for its time (90ies). The OS tried to be a classic personal computer, but small. Touch with stylus. Not at all so open. And not at all so easy to use for non-tech people.
Psion Revo - Wikipedia
How does forcing Apple to work with those entities make for better « competition ». It’s clear that all the competing apps and other software for the Mac too are competing to be on the platform. I’m quite content to have google do google as far away as possible from my devices.iPhone hardware is great, but iOS lacks customizations, really hope EU will force Apple to make their hardware compatible with Android and Linux mobile OS.
EU should force apple to work with Linux and Gggole to make it work smoothly
or force Apple to make their A/M series processor design open source to increase competition.
we all can benefit from this, world will be a better place.
Emulators is about all I can think of
Serious question, what besides apps for piracy do ya’ll have ideas for?
Maybe I’m not thinking outside the box enough, but I don’t really want for anything with the current restrictions
This is one thing worrying me. If my bank stops supporting Apple Pay I hope there is another bank I can switch to that does. I pay with my Apple Watch, never with my phone, and I don't think the bank will be bothered to support anything other than the phone (even if they could).
I’ve been advocating Apple quitting EU entirely repeatedly. Doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen anytime soon huh.
I would never understand people speaking for Apple, a trillion dollar company with an army of lawyers able to bankrupt you in seconds should you make them angry. Also, phantom of choice is a thing, and there’s the discontent of both. And what choice do those folks have?
Combined with many other things I am learning by the day, I am starting to understand why American people tout choice and freedom while simultaneously support anti-choice and anti-freedom. Pick a side bro? Or pick neither.
EU at least has the spine to step forward to a better world, and I’m all for it.
By this time next year, it might be possible for EU users to buy a brand-new iPhone, and replace Safari with Samsung Browser, replace the home screen with Xiaomi Launcher, swap Siri with Google Gemini, drop FaceTime in exchange for Google Duo (this physically pains me to type), etc., etc.
Thanks to the power of legislation, now you can create a phone that only an engagement-hungry tech YouTuber could love.
), etc., etc.It would be like someone buying my book, and then proceeding to tear out the pages and use it as toilet paper.
Sure, the book is yours to do with since you have already paid for it, but if that’s your intent, then I would rather sell one less book than see my work being desecrated like that.
Your device is unsafe by design. Those changes happening today won’t make your device safer or any more dangerous to use.
That's an interesting point but as counterargument - more competition should force Apple store to be more competitive if they don't want to loose intereitng apps.
On the other hand because if apple dumb policies some apps were not available either way...
If one company starts getting dominant position then all the benevolent rules of "free market" stop to apply and it needs to be regulated thus the rules applying to "successful" Apple...