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....to keep the defections low. This is ridiculous....a 2.8" screen? I truly believe that Verizon is behind all these rumors to keep their customers as long as they can. "I'll just wait a few more months and Verizon will get the iPhone."

Low blow....very deceitful.

I really love the new $350 Termination Fee. What other surprises await us at Verizon?

Yeah the timing of the Verizon map for that commericials, the $350 early termination fee, the droid launch and now another iPhone on Verizon rumor really scream desperation.

I hope Apple does not offer iPhone on Verizon. It would be hilarious if they offered it on Sprint and T-Mobile and left Verizon twisting in the wind.
 
This is all a part of Verizon's marketing push. They've now begun to get initial feedback on Droid, and the picture is not as rosey as they'd hoped. In a radical shift, through their Vodaphone-related network of lackeys and snitches, they've managed to pump new life into the virtually zombified rumor that they'd ever get the iPhone. All of this confusion only serves to create a cloud over AT&T, and drive consumers toward Verizon. Concerned over Droid sales, Verizon has increased cancellation fees to $350. Once they get Droid customers, rumors of a Verizon iPhone will keep the dissatisfied mollified until the awful truth comes out (unless Verizon can change Apple's course). The awful truth could be anything, considering Apple hasn't yet decided anything. Sprint perhaps? Who knows.

Were Apple to throw the iPhone at ALL CARRIERS in the U.S. market... Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T... wouldn't that be a maelstrom. It would certainly guarantee at least one will be offering the phone for $99/$199... thereby forcing the others to match the price through clean competition.

Wouldn't that be simply... messy?

~ CB

YES! it would- and why in the world would they want to do that and bring downward pressure to their phone's price. Don't worry the VZ iPhone will be priced at 199 \299 just like now.
 
eh time will tell... I hope verizon gets the iphone, i think its a great device but att service is terrible. Until then i'll stick with my crackberry :)
 
So if the screen size becomes smaller, developers have to rewrite their apps? Well done indeed. :rolleyes:

I'm hoping they don't shrink the screen size because a smaller screen would suck, but they can change the size of the screen without changing the resolution. There could be the same amount of pixels, the pixels would just be smaller.
 
given the flack AT&T is getting, especially in major markets, Apple would be insane to continue exclusivity unless there is a major upgrade.

I love the idea of offering the iPhone on just AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.
I can see the ad-line below the iPhone pics now:

"iDon't do Verizon"
 
2.8" screen? i hope not

So, if Apple comes out with a tablet that runs all those apps on a 'big' screen, perhaps some folks who either have bad eyes or like big will have a solution.

I've written apps for the iPhone and don't even own one, the iPod Touch worked very well and the price was right.

How can I do that with an Android?

If all that seems obtuse, the bottom line is that having an ecosystem beats having one pony.
 
Seems a total waste - to enable 5 people who do use CDMA - use the iPhone.

No one uses CDMA, they never did and never will.. its a strange standard that was never significant in away way, shape or form. GSM was always the mainstream.

CDMA networks should upgrade to at least HSPA, so the regular iPhone and other HSPA compatible phones can be used.
 
given the flack AT&T is getting, especially in major markets, Apple would be insane to continue exclusivity unless their is a major upgrade.

I love the idea of offering the iPhone on just AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.
I can see the ad-line below the iPhone pics now:

"iDon't do Verizon"

How about iDon't do the largest network with 80 million+ users.....

Seems a total waste - to enable 5 people who do use CDMA - use the iPhone.

No one uses CDMA, they never did and never will.. its a strange standard that was never significant in away way, shape or form. GSM was always the mainstream.

CDMA networks should upgrade to at least HSPA.


Are you nuts? See above were I reminded that VZ has over 80 million users....and that does not even cover Sprint or users on CDMA outside of the US.....But they will be upgrading to LTE ....Just like the HPSA networks will.
 
I'm fine with shrinking the screen if it means the phone is smaller and resolution stays the same or increases.

But the (Motorola) Droid blows the iPhone away in resolution. The Zune HD already sports a OLED screen. Apple's lagging here. Can't make it ANY smaller.

Of course the iPhone's always allowed to adopt an already established higher resolution... but when it's the other way around, it's fanboy "you're late to the party" blabbering and "come up w/ your own ideas and stop copying Apple's!" that sickens me. ;)

"Why I'm not getting a Droid today":
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/11/no-droid-for-me/
 
So, if Apple comes out with a tablet that runs all those apps on a 'big' screen, perhaps some folks who either have bad eyes or like big will have a solution.

I've written apps for the iPhone and don't even own one, the iPod Touch worked very well and the price was right.

How can I do that with an Android?

If all that seems obtuse, the bottom line is that having an ecosystem beats having one pony.

Which app did you write BTW? Anyway, I agree with you. But I believe the Tablet will be more of a Mac than iPhone device. Apple writes the iPhone and ipod touch software based on Cocoa, and on the Mac OS ecosystem. This results in a more organised and more standardized ecosystem, unlike Android. I still don't see much apps for the Android and the Pre till now.
 
The screen would be a deal breaker for me. I don't think an all touch device with that small of a screen would be acceptable.

iPhone on Verizon does seem odd because of all of the direct iPhone 'slandering' that Verizon has done recently.

Guess we'll have to wait and see. The whole battlefield could change by then. ;)
 
After apple was supposedly initially rejected by Verizon, why would they go modifying or complicating the phone to support 1 more carrier? the only other country that could have benefited was canada with 2 big cdma carriers, but theyve just launched umts/hspa and carry the iphone as well.

i think the most obvious choice would be down the road when apple builds a 4G LTE iphone as nearly all carriers (including Verizon) will be moving to LTE
 
But I believe the Tablet will be more of a Mac than iPhone device.

Hope you're right. I really want both modes to be supported. Sitting in my living room or on the deck running apps or doing Mac stuff, I would love it.
 
Verizon's CDMA backwards and slow

Why would I want to move to Verizon? Their "unlimited" data plan has a limit of 5GB/mo. If I want to add tethering, I need to add another "unlimited" data plan (with another limit of 5GB/mo) for another $30. So, that gives me 2 "unlimited" data plans for $60/mo.

With Verizon, I risk paying a $350 termination fee if I want to cancel my plan.

Also, I am unable to make calls and access the internet at the same time (a CDMA restriction) and there are no plans to increase the speed. You have to wait until 4G is completely rolled out for faster access....many years away.

Even though there is much to complain about AT&T, at least they have the EDGE (2.75G) as a backup to 3G. The EDGE is 100% functionally equivalent to a 3G network (data and voice access at the same time)....only slower. AT&T will also roll out 7.2mbs and then 14mbs over the next few months.
 
Verizon would be awesome. 3/4 of you would go with them, and those of us left on AT&T would see massive increases in bandwidth. :D
 
So, if Apple comes out with a tablet that runs all those apps on a 'big' screen, perhaps some folks who either have bad eyes or like big will have a solution.

I've written apps for the iPhone and don't even own one, the iPod Touch worked very well and the price was right.

How can I do that with an Android?

If all that seems obtuse, the bottom line is that having an ecosystem beats having one pony.

Firstly, iPhone devs should be making their apps resolution independent as I believe that is what Apple suggests. Secondly, a 2.8" screen is a solution to where there is no problem. 2.8" would mean a drastically reduced screen size. The tablet is a totally different product.
 
What you're proposing is to level the playing field by putting the iPhone on all 4 carriers. Which isn't "choosing" anything. It's the exact opposite.

It makes the competition even tougher for Samsung, Sony, Motorola, LG, HTC et all.. especially HTC.
 
MAN, Apple fanboys have the WORST cases of denial I've ever seen. It reaches levels of delusional schizophrenia.

People saying this is a Verizon-created rumor... YEAH, I'm sure the big wigs at Verizon are taking their valuable time away from running a company and calling shots, so that they can spread rumors like this. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
I truly believe that Verizon is behind all these rumors to keep their customers as long as they can. "I'll just wait a few more months and Verizon will get the iPhone."

And all this time, I thought Apple was behind this rumor. "I'll just wait a few more months and the iPhone will run on Verizon, instead of this unbearable AT&T network."
 
But the (Motorola) Droid blows the iPhone away in resolution. The Zune HD already sports a OLED screen. Apple's lagging here. Can't make it ANY smaller.

Of course the iPhone's always allowed to adopt an already established higher resolution... but when it's the other way around, it's fanboy "you're late to the party" blabbering and "come up w/ your own ideas and stop copying Apple's!" that sickens me. ;)

"Why I'm not getting a Droid today":
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/11/no-droid-for-me/

Actually, yes they can make it smaller. They could just give it the same pixel density as the droid. Either that or increase the resolution of the present size. Either way, its increasing pixel density.

Having said that, I seriously lol'ed when you wrote Zune HD. Please. The Nokia N-Gage had some interesting and innovative features too. Doesn't mean it wasn't a complete and utter laughingstock failure.
 
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