cmaier
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Denial of what? There have been a million rumors like this that have always been false. It ain't denial, it's playing the odds.
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Apple to Manufacture Verizon-Compatible iPhone in Q3 2010?
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Denial of what? There have been a million rumors like this that have always been false. It ain't denial, it's playing the odds.
When it comes to computing, I'd rather have a 17" screen with 1920 resolution than a 60".
What I'd really rather have is the same 3.5" screen with much higher resolution.
And higher resolution would negate the effect of smaller text. In other words, it would be equally readable.
HiRez
macrumors 603
Well the smaller screen size could just be the "mini" iPhone model that has been rumored many times now. I don't believe they would only have a smaller screen, maybe two models. Personally, I think it would be hard to use, but I can see how some people might be willing to compromise usability for ultra-compactness (see iPod Shuffle, Mac Mini, 12" PowerBook, etc.). The resolution would have to be the same as the current one, only the pixels would be smaller, but trying to get accurate tap points is iffy.
What I would like is a model with a screen slightly larger (only 10%-15% larger, much of which could come from the existing bezel and blank areas of the face), but a much higher resolution, such as 720x480. That would give sharper antialiasing for text and the ability to show more information when necessary.
What I would like is a model with a screen slightly larger (only 10%-15% larger, much of which could come from the existing bezel and blank areas of the face), but a much higher resolution, such as 720x480. That would give sharper antialiasing for text and the ability to show more information when necessary.
La Porta
macrumors regular
Everyone keeps discussing CDMA, tethering, 3G, speed, multiple data streams, etc. What they haven't touched on is the ability to do what the original purpose of these things are: make a call! I have my 4 year old Verizon cell phone and an iPod Touch for precisely the reason that I NEED my phone to be good at one thing consistently: making calls.
Watching streaming video and all that jazz is all fine and dandy, but if I can't consistently make phone calls, what is the point? Why should I trade in my phone that I have now? Every friend I have that has an iPhone is hooked on it's features, apps, etc, but if I ask them about their calls they say "yeah, it sucks, I drop calls all the time." Or when I call my own mother, and her iPhone drops in and out, but then call my father's phone on Verizon while he is standing less than 2 feet from her and there is no problem at all.
Would I like to combine my iPod Touch and phone into one? Yes. Am I willing to give up being able to make decent, reliable phone calls? No. It's that simple. If Apple can bring the iPhone to Verizon, I don't care what kind of network it is on, so long as I can speak to people with reliability.
Watching streaming video and all that jazz is all fine and dandy, but if I can't consistently make phone calls, what is the point? Why should I trade in my phone that I have now? Every friend I have that has an iPhone is hooked on it's features, apps, etc, but if I ask them about their calls they say "yeah, it sucks, I drop calls all the time." Or when I call my own mother, and her iPhone drops in and out, but then call my father's phone on Verizon while he is standing less than 2 feet from her and there is no problem at all.
Would I like to combine my iPod Touch and phone into one? Yes. Am I willing to give up being able to make decent, reliable phone calls? No. It's that simple. If Apple can bring the iPhone to Verizon, I don't care what kind of network it is on, so long as I can speak to people with reliability.
There have been many, many iPhone/Verizon rumors..... for nearly 2 1/2 years now. All false....all determined to keep the Verizon customers from defecting. They just need to keep this up a few more years until their 4G network is fully deployed (prob around 2012-13).
My guess is that T-Mobile will be next.
Cleverboy
macrumors 65816
Just saying... but corporate big wigs can be some powerfully conniving people. I'm a bit shocked that anyone would need to be reminded of that after the last year we've had. You may not want to use "big wig purity and honest grit" as your best argument.
~ CB
cmaier
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Are you being sarcastic because what follows is rife with historical inaccuracies.
The GUI suit was resolved in the late 80s or so. The cash injection and commitment to continue Offfice for Mac occurred in the late 90's. There was speculation that Apple caught Microsoft's hands in the cookie jar on several patents (since there was some cross licensing that happened with that deal also). At the time Microsoft needed a healthy Apple to help offset the DOJ antitrust battle they were in ( try not to appear to be as much of a overbearing monopoly. )
Wow... that's so inaccurate don't even know where to start with that.
It is Cardinal ( the color ).
Part of the push for "Robber Baron" was likely because it was an name that the University would not accept. Part of the drop Indians backlash (since students voted times to reinstate it also. )
LOLwut? Not saying CEO big wigs are pure and honest, at all... But they have priorities and they have jobs to do, and right around the launch of a heavily marketed major phone on their network, I don't think "spreading rumors to keep customers" is on their To-Do list. 🙄
Why can't you fanboys just ADMIT that this may be a plausible rumor with depth to it??? What strikes me as funny is Apple fanboys will be the FIRST to embrace a rumor about Apple vaporware that will never see the light of day, and shout from the hills about how awesome "Product X" from Apple will be... But any other rumor about any other company's product, is met with "BULL****! LIES!"
Double standard much? 🙄
Why can't you fanboys just ADMIT that this may be a plausible rumor with depth to it??? What strikes me as funny is Apple fanboys will be the FIRST to embrace a rumor about Apple vaporware that will never see the light of day, and shout from the hills about how awesome "Product X" from Apple will be... But any other rumor about any other company's product, is met with "BULL****! LIES!"
Double standard much? 🙄
cmaier
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Because we've heard the same rumor for 2 years and it hasn't been true, that's why.
aristotle
macrumors 68000
This is not happening. Verizon and Sprint are the two major CDMA2000 holdouts in the world and Verizon is going LTE in 2011. Bell and Telus just launched HSPA+ Networks and the iPhone 3GS and they were just CDMA2000 before. Although they will still maintain a CDMA2000 network for existing customers, both companies are advertising their HSPA+ network as a being superior to their CDMA2000 network not only in the number of devices available but also speed which is supposed to reach 21 Mbps.
The US is now falling way behind Canada technologically as we now have Rogers/Fido and Telus/Bell HSPA+ networks running at a maximum speed of 21 Mbps. The latter network is even larger in most areas than Rogers/Fido and they are exclusively 3G+. There is no Edge on their network.
I'd like to get my fellow Canadians to join me in petitioning the CRTC to force carriers to unlock all phones including the iPhone 3GS for a reasonable fee if requested by a customer who as either:
a) purchased the phone at full price or
b) has completed their contract term on a subsidized phone
I paid over 7 hundred dollars for my iPhone 3GS and I should be allowed to put any sim I want in it without having to jailbreak it. Who is with me?
The US is now falling way behind Canada technologically as we now have Rogers/Fido and Telus/Bell HSPA+ networks running at a maximum speed of 21 Mbps. The latter network is even larger in most areas than Rogers/Fido and they are exclusively 3G+. There is no Edge on their network.
I'd like to get my fellow Canadians to join me in petitioning the CRTC to force carriers to unlock all phones including the iPhone 3GS for a reasonable fee if requested by a customer who as either:
a) purchased the phone at full price or
b) has completed their contract term on a subsidized phone
I paid over 7 hundred dollars for my iPhone 3GS and I should be allowed to put any sim I want in it without having to jailbreak it. Who is with me?
Rumor 100% Wrong
I must be the luckiest iPhone user ever. I've never had a drop call on my iPhone. Compared to my last carrier (Verizon) AT&T is so much better. In fact my iPhone is the first cell phone that I can actually make a call from in my house. I travel the 50 states for work and it just works every where. And I spend a lot of time in San Francisco too!
I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone appear on TMobile, but never on Verizon. The Droid is a flavor of the month phone for Verizon. They will ignore it and Motorola when another better phone comes out. Apple does not want to deal with that type of crap. Apple wants to partner with a company who will stand behind a product for 1 year. Verizon is not that company.
I must be the luckiest iPhone user ever. I've never had a drop call on my iPhone. Compared to my last carrier (Verizon) AT&T is so much better. In fact my iPhone is the first cell phone that I can actually make a call from in my house. I travel the 50 states for work and it just works every where. And I spend a lot of time in San Francisco too!
I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone appear on TMobile, but never on Verizon. The Droid is a flavor of the month phone for Verizon. They will ignore it and Motorola when another better phone comes out. Apple does not want to deal with that type of crap. Apple wants to partner with a company who will stand behind a product for 1 year. Verizon is not that company.
darthraige
macrumors 68000
This is a joke. My Verizon contract is up in January. Hmmmmm, I may have to purchase the Droid, but my dilemma is that I don't want to purchase crappy Apps that most likely wont be compatible with the iPhone. What to do? Lots of money to spend!
Smaller screen=strategy for tablet?
Could it be that shrinking the screen of the iPhone is a strategic move to open some marketing space for the coming tablet?
Could it be that shrinking the screen of the iPhone is a strategic move to open some marketing space for the coming tablet?
Xibalba
macrumors 6502
agree - doesn't seem to make sense with the Decrease in screen size.
is the termination fee really that much now? my wife and i gladly paid $135 each to terminate verizon and move to AT&T for iPhones years ago. (not that we were upset with verizon service because we weren't - but we really wanted/needed the iphone for work and so much more).
cmaier
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Before you jump up and down
Read how Verizon is crippling the Droid through excessive charges.
http://www.macworld.com/article/143686/2009/11/droid_tethering.html
That VZW iPhone is going to cost us. Greed keeps the ATT 3G network pathetic and greed is likely to put the monthly charge for an iPhone with true unlimited data on the more robust VZW network north of $100.
Read how Verizon is crippling the Droid through excessive charges.
http://www.macworld.com/article/143686/2009/11/droid_tethering.html
That VZW iPhone is going to cost us. Greed keeps the ATT 3G network pathetic and greed is likely to put the monthly charge for an iPhone with true unlimited data on the more robust VZW network north of $100.
Cleverboy
macrumors 65816
Heh. Maybe you can carry on talking to yourself. You seem like you've got it under control without me playing this imaginary "fanboy" role for you. When you find the person resembling your remarks, be sure and talk to them long and hard, so you don't end up making everyone else into them.
~ CB
Glideslope
macrumors G3
I'll simply add that I spent several hours moving about town with the Motorola Droid today. The only function iPhone has on it is iTunes, and it's mediocre media player.
Otherwise it freaking smoked my 3GS. The interface of 2.0 is really becoming nice. If this continues, by next year Verizon will not take the iPhone. The'll give the bandwidth to Android.
Steve should never have let Erik be on the Board of Directors.
Totally. I've had more dropped called in 2 months on ATT that 5 years combined on Verizon.
As soon as Verizon gets the iPhone, I'll pay to get OUT of my ATT contract so I can switch.
macshill
macrumors 6502
Fine. Have it your way. But when the iPhone/iPod Touch gets an OLED screen w/ higher rez and HDMI video-out and when a fanboy here say "stop copying Apple and come up w/ your own ideas", I'll be back to revisit the issue with you. 😉
So how's that flash for the camera for your iPhone workin' out for ya... or the built-in zoom? Or that FM radio? Whoops. Available just lately on the Nano (while every MP3 makers -- even the crappy ones, such as Coby -- have already had it for years now). 😀
Ah, the one-way street of hypocrisy when it comes to Apple, eh? 😛
*coughs "hockey puck mouse" (among laughingstock failures) coughs*
