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If you read the article you would see that your claim of HP dropping support after 6 months seems a blatant exaggeration.

Win 10 pulls drivers based on the hardware. HP don't make their own hardware. Microsoft are the ones to thank if Win 10 runs on an HP laptop, not HP.

And it's not an exaggeration. Check their website and look at a new laptop. Check up in 6 months. All the drivers will be outdated. Guaranteed. Within a year that page might as well be archived.
 
My 2010 MBA got handed down to the wife this year but still runs like it did the day I took it out of the box. Great machine.
 
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Win 10 pulls drivers based on the hardware. HP don't make their own hardware. Microsoft are the ones to thank if Win 10 runs on an HP laptop, not HP.

And it's not an exaggeration. Check their website and look at a new laptop. Check up in 6 months. All the drivers will be outdated. Guaranteed. Within a year that page might as well be archived.
The desktop mentioned shipped with XP, and the HP drivers archive had the ones for Vista 64 which the author used for 10.

Microsoft does not write all drivers. The drivers at HP come from the component makers that they chose.
 
They just don't make them like they used to.

Well, no, because if they did, the iPhone would be the size of a small fridge. The good news would be that you could fix it with a soldering iron and a bag of assorted components. The bad news is that small fridge form-factor enclosure doesn't include the battery (but, hey, that means its replaceable).

The thing about nostalgia is that you can't cherry-pick. If you want a supercomputer in your shirt pocket or a laptop that fits in a C4 envelope you can't have it built from generic parts with all the chips socketed & tool-free access.
 
Interesting hardware strategy there Apple. The cynic in me would suggest you are obsoleting products just as you are longer legally obliged to support them under UK consumer laws. Now if this law was 3 years (i.e. the same as the AppleCare) would they become obsolete then?
 
I know people that are still using iPhone 4/4S. Imo one of the best industrial design. Alas, the internals don't age as well as the design, although the A5 had a great run..
There's a huge difference between iPhone 4 and 4s. The iPhone 4 can only run iOS 7, the 4s runs iOS 9. The iPhone 4 is single core, the 4s has a dual core processor that is also faster per core.

As a software developer, I use the iPhone 4 intensively - if my software runs acceptably fast on an iPhone 4, then it's _fast_ on every real hardware.
 
Hi MacRumors,

Any chance of using proper English? The title should read 'Apple to [make] iPhone 4 and...... Air obsolete on October the 31st'. "Apple to Obsolete" does not make sense. Obsoleted is not a word.

Thanks
 
I'm not saying that an outdated driver will kill a computer. You can frequently get the driver directly from the manufacturer's website anyway, especially with dGPUs.

But the point is that they ship as much stuff as possible and then don't support it afterwards. They'll frequently stop manufacturing parts too. Even laptops less than a year old can struggle with atrocious turnaround times due to limited/no stock. Add an extended warranty to that and you're SOL. Especially when there's a documented/widespread failure (HP touchscreens come to mind, in addition to a few Toshiba LCDs/mainboards), they'll have an indefinite "TBC" time.

Then what? You've got a laptop waiting for months on end to get a part. It's still in warranty. The manufacturer won't replace the computer and you can't get the parts for it. So what do you do in this situation?
You specifically mentioned drivers so that's what I was commenting on.

I had a multitude of laptops and none failed during warranty. I used to buy Sony Vaios and they all failed after the warranty expired, but honestly, I wasn't too bothered since they weren't too expensive (unlike, say, Macbooks) and 2-3 years was what I expected them to work. I never tried to repair a failed laptop.

However I can say that last year the battery backup on the PERC RAID on an ancient (I think 2007) PowerEdge failed (I keep it around since it has some virtualization stuff I'm too lazy to migrate), and I had no trouble buying a brand new one from Dell. So good replacement part support from them.

On the Apple side, I can tell you that the left Shift key on my 2011 Air is failing, and while Apple can fix it, here where I live they charge in excess of what the laptop is actually worth.
 
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This is a step to drop all 32 bit apps from the store and block all App Store, iMessage and FaceTime communications forcing owners to abandon a perfectly working device.
Why even on my iPhone 6 running iOS 8 I can no longer use installed Apps like the Apple Store saying I need to upgrade. iOS 8&9 users are next.
 
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Hi MacRumors,

Any chance of using proper English? The title should read 'Apple to [make] iPhone 4 and...... Air obsolete on October the 31st'. "Apple to Obsolete" does not make sense. Obsoleted is not a word.

Thanks
You can use obsolete as an adjective and as a verb. Tip: If you're going to be pedantic you should probably perform some due diligence yourself. :)
 
Wow. Down to 1 of 3 Apple laptops that aren't obsolete. Looks like they obsoleted my 802.11n Time Capsule as well.
 
Hi MacRumors,

Any chance of using proper English? The title should read 'Apple to [make] iPhone 4 and...... Air obsolete on October the 31st'. "Apple to Obsolete" does not make sense. Obsoleted is not a word.

Thanks

My God! There must be an error on the slide!

There must.png
 
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At least most of the late 2010 MBA is easy to fix. I've replaced the SSD and could easily replace the battery and other internal parts. The screen might be another issue.
 
Retina displays, USB 3, Thunderbolt 2, Force Touch Trackpads, Gigabit Wifi, PCI-E Flash capable of 2000MB/s read and write are all pretty significant "spec bumps",

Sadly in my opinion they are not. I have no reason to upgrade my 2012 rMBP to a current spec rMBP. The only one I consider significant are PCI-E, the rest adds little for my workflow.
 
I'm impressed by old apple hardware. I got my 2011 MacBook Air in high school, the basic one with 2GB RAM, i5 Sandy bridge processor and 64GB SSD. Upgraded to an OWC 240GB SSD and it still runs today with the latest version of Mac OS. It's kinda laggy but it works. Makes me wonder how long I will keep my MacBook Pro 2014.
 
Most of Apple's computer line is obsolete, not because of years of use, but because they cant be arsed updating any of the hardware.

It is actually embarrassing that Apple calls itself a computer company these days.

Selling a computer that was released 500+ days ago is essentially ripping off your customers.
 
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If I didn't know any better, I'd say Apple is in the business of selling hardware, given the aggressive nature of their obsoleting legacy products ;)
 
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Having owned several iPhones from the start, the 4 is my favorite. I had it jailbreaked and it was a totaly awesome phone. The iphones now is just- another whatever, ok, thinner, but dont really care about it anymore. Dont know what my next phone will be, still using the 5, but unlike before I am not sure it will be an iPhone.
Still use my iP4 several times a week when I go running - it has the perfect form factor to fit into the pocket of my running shorts (iP SE is just a tiny bit too large) :)
 
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