They should make the head of Mac division obsolete for failing to keep Mac line updated for years. So many friends of mine moved to PC for inability to get updated MBP or MBA
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Apple to Obsolete iPhone 4 and Late 2010 MacBook Air on October 31
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The Macbook Pro (non-retina) is still selling after 4+ years...what are the odds that Apple will still be selling it the day the obsolete it?
So my 2010 MBA refurb that I got a short while back is thrown in the dumpster? Thanks Apple! At least Microsoft still shows it a little love with Windows 10.
Well my late 2010 Air is still kicking *knocks on aluminum*. For $1300, I'd say it was a great investment. Here's to another 6 years 
There's this thing called the iPhone... you might have heard of it, I think they still make those. The iPad as well. There are still plenty of Macs as well, hopefully they will update those but with the way Intel is going currently there isn't a huge reason to do so anyways.
From an OS updating standpoint, does this mean the 2010 MBA will no longer get updates? Or just that they no longer will service the hardware?
If it no longer is receiving OS updates that's a pretty ****** stance for Apple to take. Imagine if Microsoft made Windows so you couldn't install it on a Core 2 Duo? The world would revolt.
I still use my 2010 MBA daily on the latest Sierra 10.12.1 Beta 4 and it works great.. I use dual monitors on it and it works for all I need..
If it no longer is receiving OS updates that's a pretty ****** stance for Apple to take. Imagine if Microsoft made Windows so you couldn't install it on a Core 2 Duo? The world would revolt.
I still use my 2010 MBA daily on the latest Sierra 10.12.1 Beta 4 and it works great.. I use dual monitors on it and it works for all I need..
They don't typically start the ticker until they stop selling a product. (Or replace it directly)
OMG people relax already! Your Macs won't all of a sudden stop working on Halloween!
I still use a 2008 MBP and still hustles like a champ.
This topic is like a broken record whenever Apple announces that they are adding models to their vintage and obsolete list.
I still use a 2008 MBP and still hustles like a champ.
This topic is like a broken record whenever Apple announces that they are adding models to their vintage and obsolete list.
Early or late 2011? Early 2011 was discontinued October 2011, so could go on the Vintage list as early as next month. Late 2011 was discontinued June 2012, so mid next year.Ugh. Late 2010 air. That means I got s year or so left on a 2011 mbp?
It's not like they're just pulling products out of a hat to add to the list, it's a defined term. "Vintage" means discontinued over 5 years, "Obsolete" means discontinued over 7. https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201624
Aw my late 2010 MacBook Air works beautifully still. I'm on it right now. My 2010 Mac Pro too. Such great machines, well worth the investment.
and still it's the best iPhone ever
and I hope next iPhone will change this
I've just ordered an iPhone SE to replace my trusty iPhone 4.
Sounds more like user error, or a cloud error, rather than being related specifically to the iPhone 4 model.
I've been using an iPhone 4 up until this weekend, when my new SE arrives in my hands. It's continued to functional well in all the ways that matter. Apple has been supporting that device well, and it's only been the app developers choosing to require newer-generation models out of policy, not technical capability.
I'll continue to use my iPhone 4 as a non-phone device for some time.
My 2008 MBP welcomes the new editions to the retired senior citizen center. No updates will call or come to visit and moving around is tough...all you have are your memories. Your death can be as dignified as you choose. iphone 4 was the hottest dame back in her day, so she'll be received with honors.
My iPhone 4 was my first iPhone (that I owned - I've used almost every model to some extent) and still my favourite overall (unless we count the 4S just for the improved specs I guess). I never updated to iOS 6 on it because I didn't see anything I liked better about iOS 6, and then iOS 7 came out and everyone said the iPhone ran like a pig on it, plus I don't like the iOS 7-10 look in comparison anyway.
I use mine as an iPod now, forever staying on iOS 5.1.1, where the music app was so much nicer than the Apple Music monstrosity we have now. Every time I use it I wish iOS 7-10 would look and behave a little more like iOS 5 did.
Weirdly OS X 10.5 was my favourite too. Is it something about the number 5!? Looking forward to macOS 10.15!
On the Mac side, I certainly hope my 2010 cMP is supported for a while yet (being so similar to the 2012 model I expect it should be). The current Mac Pro is in such need of an update or price drop, or both. I just wish they'd go back to the cheese grater design with the next update (if we get one).
I use mine as an iPod now, forever staying on iOS 5.1.1, where the music app was so much nicer than the Apple Music monstrosity we have now. Every time I use it I wish iOS 7-10 would look and behave a little more like iOS 5 did.
Weirdly OS X 10.5 was my favourite too. Is it something about the number 5!? Looking forward to macOS 10.15!
On the Mac side, I certainly hope my 2010 cMP is supported for a while yet (being so similar to the 2012 model I expect it should be). The current Mac Pro is in such need of an update or price drop, or both. I just wish they'd go back to the cheese grater design with the next update (if we get one).
Stay tuned.
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I remember the day when if you wanted an image like that you would have to do the decent thing and make it in photoshop.
Can you install Sierra on it or not?
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With 4K!
If you stay on an OS that was supported previously then you will still get patches for it until they obsolete that OS.
Unfortunately you won't be able to go to a current OS without workarounds. Apple has been doing this for some time and they publish a list of supported hardware for each release. e.g. Sierra is not listed for a 2009 Mac Pro - installation fails unless you apply a patch first.
From https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475
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IMO, you need to not only look at when a product was released, but when it was last sold as new by the company. Apple sold the iPhone 4 as new several years after it was initially released and wasn't stopped being sold as new until 2013. That means, someone who bought a brand new iPhone 4 in early September 2013 is finding that their iPhone isn't able to get any service just 3 years after being purchased. You can say all you want about it "obviously" not being state of the art, but to the average consumer, that just means that the phone wouldn't have the latest and greatest specs - not that it would stop being supported sooner.
In order to truly qualify for Apple's own definition of vintage model, Apple should be extending support for iPhone 4 until 2018.
I wonder what is going to happen to my 15" 2012 MBP (top model) in a couple years. It's still running as strong as ever and I've never had the need to want more speed or power from it. it does everything I need. It's the first year apple released SSD's on their MBP's and last year for discrete graphics for the entire line up. I think this MBP still has a lot of life in it so I hope apple supports it as long as the internals can handle it.