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Jonny Ive's office:

Tim: Jonny I think you've been asleep. Did you see what Phil sent out today?
Jonny: No.
Tim: This was in the news "Apple to obsolete Mid 2012 MacBook Pro".
Jonny: Ya? So?
Tim: Do you have a replacement?
Jonny: Oh Sh*t! Ya, that's a problem.

Eddy's office:

Eddy: Did you really put out a press release killing off that dinosaur?
Phil: Ya! Its 2016 for crying out loud. How is a 2012 laptop still on the market?
Eddy: Jonnys gonna be maaaaaaad!
(they high five)
Eddy: (doing his Tim impersonation voice while dancing like a robot) PIPELINE! PIPELINE! PIEPELINE! IVE GOT CRAP IN MY PIPELINE!
Phil: Nice! I think I'm going to take Craig's advice and put out a press release announcing a new fully expandable Mac Pro. That will give Jonny something to do!
Eddy: Wait. I'm going to tweet about a new version of Aperture!
Phil: HA! Now that....yes that!
 
So the list mentions the 13" Late 2010 MBA.. It didn't specifically call out the 11" Late 2010 MBA.. are we to assume the 11" is also on that list, just not mentioned?
 
and still it's the best iPhone ever :)
and I hope next iPhone will change this :D

I'd have to disagree. The exposed glass edges on either side of the metal band made the 4/4S (and 5/5S) extremely prone to cracking even from very minor falls. Any time I see people with one, I always peer over and the screen - and like as not, it's shattered and they haven't bothered to replace it as it'll shatter again.

Yes, you shouldn't drop your phone, but it happens. I wouldn't buy a phone that shatters so easily, just as I wouldn't buy a car that shatters easily on impact.
 
I am amused after reading about the many 6/6+ falling apart. My 4 is still working, even has the original battery. Old yes, slow yes, does not run newer apps, yet it still works and has been very reliable. It's a pity that Iphone build standards have dropped so low. I also have an Apple][ along with some ancient MBPs that work too. That was back in the day that Apples just worked. I miss those days. Perhaps I will live long enough to see Apple release a NEW MBP. With my luck, Apple will release a clunker full of courage and emojis.
 
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i gave my mom an iPhone 4. after a month, her icloud contacts got erased out of nowhere. searched online, there's a huge thread of this unresolved icloud bug. seems to happen every month in which i have to do an icloud restore. annoying.

i filed a radar but apple closed the radar and said to simply update to iOS 8 (which iPhone 4 cannot do). dick move by apple.
Turn off iCloud? Not deal I know but might be a solution for this annoying problem :)
 
Ugh. Late 2010 air. That means I got s year or so left on a 2011 mbp? :(

Not that you'd be missing out on anything. El Cap runs fine on my 2011 and 2012 Macs, and Sierra slightly less so, but updates are coming.

I can't see anything coming down the pike that would make me need new hardware (other than G.A.S.--Gear Acquisition Syndrome or actual hardware failure).

My obsolete (portable) Macs would eat the new stuff for breakfast, capability-wise.

EDIT: Hardware parts would be an issue, though, as mentioned by another poster...
 
My mid 2010 mac pro will be next....
[doublepost=1476463028][/doublepost]Still waiting for the new mac pro......
 

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If Apple wants to innovate maybe home infrastructure, Wifi, a suggestion. The pressure on Wifi is becoming intense. Like having a two lane road with stops and needing a freeway.
 
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I am amused after reading about the many 6/6+ falling apart. My 4 is still working, even has the original battery. Old yes, slow yes, does not run newer apps, yet it still works and has been very reliable. It's a pity that Iphone build standards have dropped so low. I also have an Apple][ along with some ancient MBPs that work too. That was back in the day that Apples just worked. I miss those days. Perhaps I will live long enough to see Apple release a NEW MBP. With my luck, Apple will release a clunker full of courage and emojis.

This. It's really infuriating to see Apple move to more and more proprietary, after they'd opened things up once they made the move to Intel.

It would not surprise me if in 2 years Apple does go to all ARM, soldered RAM and SSD, and kills discrete GPUs entirely (now that they're looking for GPU engineers).

We'll get a sealed disposable box, just like every single iOS device out there (and most Macs today). The only way to upgrade will be at the point-of-sale. Yet they'll still brag about being green.

Steve Jobs to Motorola: "I can't wait 'till I don't need you anymore."

Sounds about right, from me to Apple. Already half-way there (no iOS device for me, thank you very much).
 
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Well I hope they release new MBP's soon so I can upgrade my vintage MBA!
 
7 years?

Would note that one can have a 20 year-old automobile and have it serviced by the manufacturer's dealers. If perhaps now that they've more become 'computers on wheels' . . . ?
 
IMO, you need to not only look at when a product was released, but when it was last sold as new by the company. Apple sold the iPhone 4 as new several years after it was initially released and wasn't stopped being sold as new until 2013. That means, someone who bought a brand new iPhone 4 in early September 2013 is finding that their iPhone isn't able to get any service just 3 years after being purchased. You can say all you want about it "obviously" not being state of the art, but to the average consumer, that just means that the phone wouldn't have the latest and greatest specs - not that it would stop being supported sooner.

In order to truly qualify for Apple's own definition of vintage model, Apple should be extending support for iPhone 4 until 2018.

wow, just checked. it was discontinued around the same time as iphone 5, but iphone 4S remained in production until 2014.
 
wow, just checked. it was discontinued around the same time as iphone 5, but iphone 4S remained in production until 2014.

It wasn't until the release of the iPhone 5S/5C that the iPhone 4 was discontinued in favor of an 8GB iPhone 4S as the "free" option. That was September 2013.
 
2010 mac book air is so close to current model specs. Seems like a very strange planned obsolescence vs real hardware limitations. It might be better for apple to to have a Gold Master final version, deemed as safe to stay on for these devices and support them with periodic updates for any bugs found. If they can't offer the latest software on old hardware I don't see it as a big deal. I mean MS can offer support for XP for so long. Apple could at least do the same for as long on their limited hardware spread.
 
Where do those with a 2011 MacBook Pro stand?

I'm guessing our 2011 Macs will also be a part of the 'Vintage and Obsolete' list next year?
 
Where do those with a 2011 MacBook Pro stand?

I'm guessing our 2011 Macs will also be a part of the 'Vintage and Obsolete' list next year?

Possibly, but they have to obsolete the 2010 model first. Still hanging in there with mine!
 
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