I work in a Windows office with two Macs. The Windows machines, bought in 2009 for the most part, are broken, each in its own way. The two Macs, made in 2008 and 2012, work like the day they were bought.
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Apple to Obsolete Select 2009 to 2011 Macs at End of Year
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Hey Apple.... before you obsolete too many Macs, you should give us some worthy new ones to replace them with!
Thank god they run Windows..... so one can keep using it with the latest OS when Apple decide to cut SW support for a pretty good machine
My 2010 17" runs Windows much, much better than MacOS. Linux of course runs very well, too. It'll be supported for Windows/Linux operating systems for many years to come yet.
I had totally forgotten about the flower power iMac! Oh man, I wonder if I can find one of those on eBay...The replacement is the late 2011 or 2012 MBP or one of the newer rMBPs. Maybe you don't like the retina form factor, but no computer company sells the same laptop for 6 years.
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Your examples don't really apply. Individual vs. large corporation.
And yes, IF I had a lot of money (like they do right now) I would be just fine,
not needing any support.
That is exactly what I recommend to people as well. A couple of years ago, I was giving a MacBook Pro to my mother, and took the computer into Apple to get the battery swapped.
They ran the standard battery test, then had to get a senior manager to allow them to replace the good original battery with a new one at the Apple Store. It was not a problem, paid the fee for the battery service and had a new one in the computer an hour later.
It was worth it to not deal with third party batteries.
Mac Pro will be the only computer soon to be obsolete before it's updated!
Certainly looks like it.
Maybe their ultimate vision is that we can sit down with a device any place where there is a cloud connection. That connection then runs their macOS, with all of our bought apps, which are also in the cloud, so we don't even have to have any computers other than iPads/large phones or hybrid devices we do not know yet.
We are telling that macOS via voice commands what to do. (Probably not SIRI, which was always doa for me)
Waiting for that wristband computer we can talk into. (Not the iWatch)
Apple certainly has given up on many aspects of pro business and seem no longer be interested in certain markets. (Gaming, etc.)
Maybe they'll make one more iMac people can get upset about.
The entire high tech field seems saturated with nothing revolutionary on the horizon and everybody copying each other.
Well, guess it's time for the Early 2009 Mac Mini I have (that I've only had for a month, picked it up for free from a college) to prepare to meet its maker.
I upgraded it to 8GB RAM and an 840 EVO SSD, but it still chugs fairly often on El Capitan. I could try dropping back to Yosemite or even Mavericks, but I don't know.
I've been wanting to do a Z170/Skylake Hackintosh build... but I don't think I can discuss that here.
I upgraded it to 8GB RAM and an 840 EVO SSD, but it still chugs fairly often on El Capitan. I could try dropping back to Yosemite or even Mavericks, but I don't know.
I've been wanting to do a Z170/Skylake Hackintosh build... but I don't think I can discuss that here.
Love mine too, and upgraded to 16 GB RAM and a 256 GB Samsung Pro SSD, runs like a charm.
OKAY! Soooo, my late 2012 Quad Core i7 Mac Mini will be obsolete next year, yet the 2014 Mac Mini wasn't "Obsolete" when it was release?????? Classic Apple. SMH.
This vid just shows how relatively needless it is to upgrade to a new machine for most home users that don't need the absolute fastest processing power. For day-to-day usage and the user experience, there just isn't that much (if any) difference.
p.s. Even my "vintage" 2008 15" MBPro (+SSD) C2Duo runs flawlessly for web browsing/word processing etc. The only trick is to NOT upgrade it past Snow Leopard...
This whole thing is cracking me up. I'm writing this from my Early 2011 MBP. It just had its motherboard replaced for the GPU issue (for free) earlier this year. And it is on its 3rd HDD (last two being SSDs, the 2nd of which just got too small).
I will eventually replace it with a new MBP, even though I have a new work-provided Dell laptop sitting next to it that I haven't logged into for a few days. (It contains the older Samsung 830 originally in this MBP)
I'm simply better at my job when working from a Mac, so to me it's worth it. Nearly everyone seems to be whining about the cost of a new MBP. They've always been expensive. And people have always whined about it. Yes, I would have liked to have seen more "revolution" than "evolution" in the current MBP lineup, but honestly, I haven't heard a single negative thing about the new ones from people who actually own one. But I have heard MANY surprised reactions at how much they love them.
So yeah, maybe I'm a fanboi. But it works for me, and if I get 6 years out of a $2,500 computer, ≈$450/year ain't bad for a tool I use all day every work day.
But obviously YMMV.
I will eventually replace it with a new MBP, even though I have a new work-provided Dell laptop sitting next to it that I haven't logged into for a few days. (It contains the older Samsung 830 originally in this MBP)
I'm simply better at my job when working from a Mac, so to me it's worth it. Nearly everyone seems to be whining about the cost of a new MBP. They've always been expensive. And people have always whined about it. Yes, I would have liked to have seen more "revolution" than "evolution" in the current MBP lineup, but honestly, I haven't heard a single negative thing about the new ones from people who actually own one. But I have heard MANY surprised reactions at how much they love them.
So yeah, maybe I'm a fanboi. But it works for me, and if I get 6 years out of a $2,500 computer, ≈$450/year ain't bad for a tool I use all day every work day.
But obviously YMMV.
This is not about great features or innovations on Macs (no one really asked for or really needs)
It is about security updates (this could be an android thread)
Machines left without os upgrades will be phased out of security updates not so long after
Nowadays computers last a lot longer than they did 10 or 20 years ago. 5 years to a computer today is nothing. I have a machine from 2009 that is running perfectly fine today. Well, I have one Windows and one Apple machine from 2009. Guess which one still is supported...
Good suppport sells but unfortunately not in the short term.
In the meantime, as computers continue to last longer than ever before, the PC age has been replaced by a smart device age with devices that evolve and get obsolete as quickly as once did computers. And so, margins are shifting from computers to smart devices. and so, support wise ... this is what we get.
The computer and notebook world today is a totally different kind of animal as the smartphone (and tablet) world. Smartphones today are getting obsolete at a pace as did PCs ... 20 years ago. And even smartphones slowed down in the last couple of years.
Just do not treat PCs the same as you did 10 to 15 years ago. MS did get it with W8 and 10, Apple does not. This is what is really sad. Not users hanging on to 5 year old perfectly good hardware. Not a good mindset.
Better not mention the Mac hardware upgrade cycles .. those are even more sad
It is dangerous for a company to focus and rely on on one product family only. Forgetting about computers today is not caring about your safety net you might desperately need tomorrow.
The rebels have become fat and lazy ...
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Willfully obsolete. It's a choice.
Oh, trust me, there is a lot of demand for a full tower from Apple (at least from the creative community). 4,1 and 5,1 cMPs still get a good price on eBay and many people (including myself) just keep upgrading them (SSDs, better GPUs, USB 3 cards, new CPUs, etc.,). If Apple release a nMP in a normal tower form factor that had user upgradeable parts it would sell like hotcakes.
Not that this is scientific or anything, but in my 15yrs of working in the very Mac centric world of video/film post production I've never seen such a low opinion of Apple as I have over the past few years. Many people I know have moved to Windows or built HackIntoshes (or are doing everything they can to upgrade their cMP).
Somehow never heard of that term until now. In some ways Apple has really been pushing things forward, cutting down on materials that are bad for the environment and building robots like Liam to deconstruct iPhone for recycling. But on the other hand there's the issue at hand about obsoleting devices that work fine. Looking at the definition of greenwashing, I'd say out of all the companies out there, Apple is one of the lightest offenders. But they still have work to do. It's tricky to balance being environmentally friendly with making money. If they make their devices too well then they'll run forever. Having a fast machine that runs forever is the ultimate environmentally friendly thing to build, but it directly contradicts capitalism. On the other hand, capitalism and communism gone rampant has caused global warming. Many intelligent people would agree that we need a better system, but as flawed humans we're thus far incapable of creating such a society without killing off freedom and diversity.That's because it is wasteful.
