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Apple is making the 2011 Pro MacBooks obsolete because of the GPU failures that they don't wan't to deal with. That's why the 13 inch 2011 (and 2010 and even 2009) models aren't being made obsolete as well.

no, they dealt with the GPU issues like 3 years ago. there has been a free fix for quite some time now.

the 13 inch models haven't gone obsolete because it has not reached their time yet. They will typically go vintage 5-6 years from last date of sale. They continued to be sold for a couple years after 2009 in fact via educational institutions, the white plastic ones especially.
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My 2009 MBP is literally more Pro and usable than the 2016.
I will wait till 2017 and see what apple presents before probably bailing to Windows land.

ha! overuse of the word "literally"
 
The CPU is fine, and the RAM really isn’t their fault. Both cases are pretty much Intel’s fault. They have pretty good explanation for those, but I’m not going to BUY an new one given the lack of progress on that front. The GPU’s have always been underpowered, and that annoys me to no end, but they have been updating them, at least. The Dongles, expensive drive space, and the fact that once the warranty is over the computer is basically unrepairable is really unacceptable to me. I could take or leave the touchbar since I plug my current one into an external monitor and use it closed.
 
My 2009 MBP is literally more Pro and usable than the 2016.
I will wait till 2017 and see what apple presents before probably bailing to Windows land.
If that's what it takes to make you migrate to a different operating system, you may as well bail now; there won't be new laptops next year.
 
The CPU is fine, and the RAM really isn’t their fault. Both cases are pretty much Intel’s fault.

IMO the RAM is their fault because Apple's #1 priority was making the MBP thinner. In order to make it thinner they had to make the battery smaller. Once they made the battery smaller they had to chose more power friendly parts to keep the battery life up.

If Apple had kept the MBP the same thickness it could have kept the same battery size and used different RAM that could go up to 32gigs.
 
The way the Mac Pro is being treated in today's Tim Cook Apple where old hardware is sold as new, it sarcastically makes one wonder if Apple will obsolete the trash can Mac Pro while they continue to still sell it :rolleyes:

Yes. That way they can deny all warranty claims because the machine is obsolete. Money saved!
 
I took a 2009 Mini to the Apple store for service months ago and they refused to look at it on the grounds it was already end of life.
 
And yet the 2011 15 inch MBP still has a faster CPU than any 13 inch MBP. (and only about 30% slower than the modern 15 inch MBP)
Can take 16GB of RAM.
Can take two SSD's, up to 4TB each.

And it's "obsolete".
 
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I have an early 2011 15" MBP. I have yet to find a worthy replacement worth my money. Apple, this is a problem. I waited all this time to have the following:
  • Weak, under-powered machine
  • Dongles are required
  • Gimmicky Touchbar
  • $2,400 Starting Price
  • No Function Keys
  • 16gb RAM cap
Let's get Tim out of there. Please. Seriously.
Yes, 2016 rMBP sucks. 2013-2015 rMBP should be a worthwhile replacement, though. Wouldn't recommend 2012 rMBP (which I have).
 
Isn't there the 2012 model?
There's a Late 2011 model.

I don't think ir is reasonable to expect people with an Early 2011 MBP that is working to replace it with a refurbished one which is some months newer.
 
Hey, on the bright side, it's nice to see a Mac Mini on the MacRumors homepage.
Dang, that's some dark humor. :D
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There's a Late 2011 model.

I don't think ir is reasonable to expect people with an Early 2011 MBP that is working to replace it with a refurbished one which is some months newer.
Well, they used to update them every 10 months or so, and there has to be a cutoff somewhere. Move it back one gen, and there's the same complaint for mid 2010 vs early 2011.

BTW, there are 2012 models. They were actually sold for years until they were discontinued last October.
 
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Wow - this pretty much wipes out most of Apple's current range, doesn't it? Or at least that's how it feels!
 
Well, they used to update them every 10 months or so, and there has to be a cutoff somewhere. Move it back one gen, and there's the same complaint for mid 2010 vs early 2011.
It is not reasonable to stop support of computers which are not at all obsolete when there's no replacement.
 
It is not reasonable to stop support of computers which are not at all obsolete when there's no replacement.
The replacement is the late 2011 or 2012 MBP or one of the newer rMBPs. Maybe you don't like the retina form factor, but no computer company sells the same laptop for 6 years.
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Whoa, when did Apple start selling flowers? MacRumors, you totally missed that story...
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The replacement is the late 2011 or 2012 MBP or one of the newer rMBPs. Maybe you don't like the retina form factor, but no computer company sells the same laptop for 6 years.
It is Apple's fault if they don't provide a replacement for the cMBP, not the customers'.
 
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It is Apple's fault if they don't provide a replacement for the cMBP, not the customers'.
It is the customers' fault. If the customers demanded the cMBP, Apple would sell it. The only people who want it are those who really need an internal DVD drive or hate the super nice retina display for some reason. So... not enough to make it worth producing.

Now, you can argue that all the stuff Apple is discontinuing this year is actually in high demand and should be worth producing. IDK what their problem is.
 
It is the customers' fault. If the customers demanded the cMBP, Apple would sell it. The only people who want it are those who really need an internal DVD drive or hate the super nice retina display for some reason.
Many customers demand the cMBP, and the optical drive is only a minor reason.

It is Apple that thinks they know better than their customers what they need.
 
Does this mean that future iterations of macOS won't (officially) run on these machines?
My 2011 15" MBP high res/ag is still running smoothly, no GPU problems so far and it's connected to a 24" display most of the time.
 
So, my 17" Macbook Pro is going to be obsolete. Hmmm. Still running a recording studio setup just fine. Isn't going to be replaced by anything without ports any time soon. Runs my Firewire devices just fine. Handles my current USB 2.0 studio gear just fine. I can upgrade it. It has magsafe. It has a 17" screen. I have 16GB in it. It has a Core i7 that is still well fast enough for heavy duty studio use. It has Ethernet.

What's not to like about this? Why would I want to change it? I'm certainly not going to obsolete it by choice...

There is no current Pro Macbook that will serve those same needs out of the box. Not one.

I care nothing for a TouchBar. I want ports in a functional Pro machine. Usable ports, not ones I have to buy dongles to use.

So, my 15" late 2011 Macbook Pro is going to be obsolete probably next year some time. Isn't going to be replaced by anything without ports any time soon. Runs my Firewi.... etc. etc. etc. all the same (bar only having 12GB).

I've been looking at getting an older refurb 2012 MD103LL/A to "update" (yes - it's the best that Apple has to offer - sadly) some other portable studio gear. Has usable ports (Ethernet, USB 3.0, Firewire) and is upgradeable. Now I guess need to rethink that because that will probably be dead next year. But - rethink to what? I've been looking to potentially replace a Windoze machine with it. There's nothing else I can use that makes sense out of the box.

Until Apple produces some Pro machines though that I can use without $100s in additional dongles, there's nothing new to update the studio with.

Very sad. Lost the plot supporting the Pro community...
 
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