Wrong on so many levels. I won't give Apple another penny unless they produce a computer I need. They don't today, they produce well designed toys. They've boxed me into a corner and I'm not going with the Tim Cook/Jonny Ive, fashion statement devices. Are the alternative's good or better, nope, except for the attitude. I am looking for a company that works in the best interest of all of its customers, not just teenagers and soccer moms.
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Apple to Obsolete Select 2009 to 2011 Macs at End of Year
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Wrong on so many levels. I won't give Apple another penny unless they produce a computer I need. They don't today, they produce well designed toys. They've boxed me into a corner and I'm not going with the Tim Cook/Jonny Ive, fashion statement devices. Are the alternative's good or better, nope, except for the attitude. I am looking for a company that works in the best interest of all of its customers, not just teenagers and soccer moms.
Come on, people. Apple isn't trying to screw a nobody here. This is simply a business decision to no longer deal with supply chain logistics for some of the pre-retina platform components like logic boards, Intel CPU SKUs that are no longer available, sub-500GB SATA hard drives, pre-Lion keyboards, etc.
Looking at it another way: 5 years of parts for a COMPUTER is pretty damned good, given that a lot of traditional "hard goods"manufacturers (appliances, cars, etc.) generally commit to parts availability for 10 years.
Looking at it another way: 5 years of parts for a COMPUTER is pretty damned good, given that a lot of traditional "hard goods"manufacturers (appliances, cars, etc.) generally commit to parts availability for 10 years.
Don't just take my word for it.
Those are just opinions and do not speak to obsolesence. Again, how are they obsolete? Just look at all the people here, as an example, who are passing on the 2016 being pleased with what they have now. Hardly obsolete and still supported.
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Apple computer is dead to me. Non stop thinness and lack of Mac Pros. We all know apple is not a computer company. Apple is a pansy company.
Just as well I had both of my early 17" 2011 MBP's fixed under the GPU replacement program in the last 1-2 months. Pity when the 90 days warranty is up that's it for the laptops, if or should I say when, they expire again.
How does the 2011 Pro have a shorter life than the 2009 MacBook 13
Guess Apple wants to nudge a few more people into buying the 2016 Pro..
It's a specific formula. Once they stop making a particular model, the clock starts. At 5 years from that point, it's marked vintage at the next cycle. This doesn't always correspond with a drop in software support, which sometimes occurs earlier.
I don't think so, I bought a new one just 1 year ago, AFAIK they where still available last year so I guess it's still supported (hardware) for a few years, if not I will sell mine soon.
This is not what I meant. It looks like they are discontinuing most of their computers (Mac Pro, iMac, mac mini etc.). My point is that these are all obsolete already as we are seeing the last iteration of Mac computers.
You are exactly right. I have an early 2011 17" MBP with 16GB RAM, and SSD, and the new 2016 machine have a better battery life, and somewhat faster CPU and memory system, but they are not a compelling upgrade due to the issues you note.
Would that be five seconds or fifty feet? No, five years in the case of a 2011 MacBook Pro purchased new.
Phil Schiller to Tim Cook, "I have an idea to increase sales."
"Obsolete more Macs and they'll have to buy the black non-upgradeable Mac Pro TRASH CAN!"
Tim Cook, "YAY! Problem solved."
Phil Schiller, "It also solves all the customer complaints about more dongles. No one will remember any machines without dongles soon!"
Tim Cook, "YAY! You get a raise Phil!"
Tim Cook: "Oh and see if you can get Jony Ive to make sure all those other Lighting cables don't work. All cables should be 4$29.99 or $39.99 damn it!"
"Obsolete more Macs and they'll have to buy the black non-upgradeable Mac Pro TRASH CAN!"
Tim Cook, "YAY! Problem solved."
Phil Schiller, "It also solves all the customer complaints about more dongles. No one will remember any machines without dongles soon!"
Tim Cook, "YAY! You get a raise Phil!"
Tim Cook: "Oh and see if you can get Jony Ive to make sure all those other Lighting cables don't work. All cables should be 4$29.99 or $39.99 damn it!"
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Yes, although it can actually be repaired (if not by Apple). Unlike the new use and dispose models.
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Perhaps because previously they could still be serviced, by someone.
So if Apple's questionable policy in obsolescence hasn't changed, its computers certainly have. By design. One might well wonder where it is headed, not only in this but as a corporation. Most poignantly, where its loyal customers will personally stand, they who are running out of viable options.
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They need people to buy new machines to keep pumping money into macOS, and investing in innovations like the Touch Bar in the new MacBook Pros. If you want the Mac to have a future, you should applaud efforts to encourage people to upgrade newer systems and technologies.
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I'd love to know what you really need that isn't serviced by the current family of Mac products. There is literally a Mac available for every need and use case.
The CPU is fine, and the RAM really isn’t their fault. Both cases are pretty much Intel’s fault. They have pretty good explanation for those, but I’m not going to BUY an new one given the lack of progress on that front. The GPU’s have always been under-powered, and that annoys me to no end, but they have been updating them, at least. The Dongles, expensive drive space, and the fact that once the warranty is over the computer is basically irrepairable one broken is really unacceptable to me. I could take or leave the touchbar since I plug my current one into an external monitor and use it closed.
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Try editing or playing a simple 4K video clip from a Phantom 3 Pro and let me know how powerful that 2011 MBP is and under powered the 2016 model is.
I love mine, upgraded the RAM to 8gb a few years back machine runs like a champ
so you've used it and determined it is incapable of doing what you need?